Plants wilting under growlight and I don't know why

[maranibbana]

I'm thinking it's because I started mine at such weak lighting. The first week in the window sill was 60-70° days and half of them were overcast. The last two were pretty good sunlight but several days of overcast (max 6-7 hours of direct sunlight through the screen).

Right yea, but they should be loving it. Why when i take my teens into the sunlight they love it and the sun it far more powerful than my 650w led could ever be?

 

[Southernontariogrower]

I'm thinking it's because I started mine at such weak lighting. The first week in the window sill was 60-70° days and half of them were overcast. The last two were pretty good sunlight but several days of overcast (max 6-7 hours of direct sunlight through the screen).

My clones are under 4 led tubes, veg is 150w 3k led, flower tent is 600w 8 bar led, 5k and 660nm big fat buds lm flowering in 7 gal plastic pots 8 in 4x4 with room for 1 more in middle, have fan that sucks co2 off floor and blows into canopy, as soon as leaves touch pot ring l flower. About 8 inches tall, end up with 3.5 to 4 ft plants but 3 ft colas.

 

[Coopalooop]

Right yea, but they should be loving it. Why when i take my teens into the sunlight they love it and the sun it far more powerful than my 650w led could ever be?

That was exactly what I was thinking! I don't know enough about grow lights (especially transitioning from natural sun to grow lights) to fully understand every bit of it. I'm sure it takes years of practice, but I thought the girls would immediately take to the lights. The only reason I kept the brightness so high and the distance so close was because they weren't praying up towards the lights like they did with the sun. I'm in a whole new world with grow lights, super happy to have a helpful community that I've joined now though

 

[Southernontariogrower]

l staggered this crop as figure if l can get rid of a few early the younger ones will be bigger as more room at latter flower

 

[maranibbana]

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That was exactly what I was thinking! I don't know enough about grow lights (especially transitioning from natural sun to grow lights) to fully understand every bit of it. I'm sure it takes years of practice, but I thought the girls would immediately take to the lights. The only reason I kept the brightness so high and the distance so close was because they weren't praying up towards the lights like they did with the sun. I'm in a whole new world with grow lights, super happy to have a helpful community that I've joined now though

you can totally keep it at high power just raise them my 650w stay at their max height the entire grow, in veg they don’t need as much, basically half the light effiececy as they need in flower and they will still grow vigorous

 

[Southernontariogrower]

My ph was off whole grow, just fixed 2 days ago, not bad for drinking acidic feed. 2.4 and 3.4 meter read 5.4 and 6.4 coming back though.

 

[Southernontariogrower]

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you can totally keep it at high power just raise them my 650w stay at their max height the entire grow, in veg they don’t need as much, basically half the light effiececy as they need in flower and they will still grow vigorous

I dim and keep close, but am stickler about hydro use, lm poor

 

[maranibbana]

I dim and keep close, but am stickler about hydro use, lm poor

I will admit my method isint exactly easy on the wallet, but I’m too lazy to fuck with my lights up and down haha

 

[Southernontariogrower]

I will admit my method isint exactly easy on the wallet, but I’m too lazy to fuck with my lights up and down haha

I try to tune my girls right in, even with setbacks they do well. My feed is all things l deem necessary, Calmag Base Kelp silica fulvic acid mollasses. Bout covers it except for ph ing

 

[Southernontariogrower]

Ever hear of Cannapro? Pure 3 part starter kit. Got that to finish this grow off with, 2.5 kg bags figured will do outdoor too.

 

[Southernontariogrower]

I will admit my method isint exactly easy on the wallet, but I’m too lazy to fuck with my lights up and down haha

Learning how to use leds is half the grow, sorry op but good conversation worth noting. Giving away all my tricks. Light is most important then environment, my temps during lights on is around 90 and rh is 80. Grow quite well in greenhouse environment. I flush humidity for 2 hous a day at lights out. 1hr b4 to 1 after. To replenish o2 for sleep. Then co2 builds till lights on, l dont open tent for 1 hr after lights on, as they suck up the co2. The rest is normal growing. Plant do appreciate different things. I try to maximize on everything.

 

[Millo]

If plants are praying they can take more light. Just a trick l know of as fact. Full sun leaves are flat, not praying, dull days plants pray for sun.

Not trying to argue here, 0 experience on the matter, however:

The main argument people use ( that I know of ) is leaf area.

Basically if light is too strong, leaves pray as to reduce the surface directly hit by the light.
Vertical leaves absorb less light compared to horizontal ( flat ) leaves, hence it is seen like a defense mechanism against strong light.

Your comment however is based on experience, which I repeat I don't have. But what I have written above sounds very logical to me....

Would you care to further elaborate your theory as well? I wanna find out the truth behind this phenomenon

 

[Coopalooop]

Over watering can be directly linked to improper lighting
And basing watering on plants as they were young isn't helping
I wasn't there but I would be a fool to move plants around like this
I don't need to handicap myself

Your points have been absolutely zero help since you first posted. You've just been being condescending. Everyone else has been offering advice. You have just been trying to flex the fact that you've grown for no one cares how long and indirectly calling me a fool. Funny, because my girls bounced back immediately after some proper advice from actual helpful members. I stated originally that it was my first indoor grow and wanted advice, not dudes with hard ons for themselves trying to belittle new growers man. I make one mistake and look for advice here and you have been like, stalking this thread angrily. Give it a break, take the original hint, I don't want you here. Only the people that have helped and been productive.

 

[Herb & Suds]

Your points have been absolutely zero help since you first posted. You've just been being condescending. Everyone else has been offering advice. You have just been trying to flex the fact that you've grown for no one cares how long and indirectly calling me a fool. Funny, because my girls bounced back immediately after some proper advice from actual helpful members. I stated originally that it was my first indoor grow and wanted advice, not dudes with hard ons for themselves trying to belittle new growers man. I make one mistake and look for advice here and you have been like, stalking this thread angrily. Give it a break, take the original hint, I don't want you here. Only the people that have helped and been productive.

First
Show me where I called you a fool?

Second Do you call replying twice to a thread Is "angrily stalking "?
I think you better reread my post as opposed to siding with someone who is actually angrily stalking the entire forum
My apologies I didn't realize how sensitive you are
I will never comment to you again
Grow some

 

[maranibbana]

First
Show me where I called you a fool?

Second Do you call replying twice to a thread Is "angrily stalking "?
I think you better reread my post as opposed to siding with someone who is actually angrily stalking the entire forum
My apologies I didn't realize how sensitive you are
I will never comment to you again
Grow some

makes me giggle that you believe me sharing opposite opinions about the things some of you people say and actually helping OPs (instead of being condescending to ppl about their methods or grow etc) and calling many of you out on some of the shit y’all say makes you think I’m angrily stalking you.

 

[maranibbana]

First
Show me where I called you a fool?

Let me introduce exhibit A

I wasn't there but I would be a fool to move plants around like this

You insinuated that only a fool would move plants around like OP.

 

[PizzaMan5000]

How powerful is this light?

I run t5's no more than 10" from veg plants

 

[Coopalooop]

How powerful is this light?

I run t5's no more than 10" from veg plants

Umm I don't really know much about the t5's. Just Google Mars Hydro ts1000 specs and it should give you a quick rundown. It's definitely a little stronger than I expected, and I watched a ton of videos and read a bunch about it before I bought it. However, the videos and stuff only ever really went in depth on the flowering stage with the light. Not the early stages.