Too much chlorophyll being pulled

Tropichigh

Tropichigh

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ello everyone,

I just made a batch of shatter with 3 ounces of trim. Used very high-quality butane, hot water bath purge for 20 minutes, then 72+ hours vacuum purge with 80 to 90 Fahrenheit heat. The shatter turned out glass like, but had a horrible bitter taste which I associate with Chlorophyll. Could this be because someone dried and cured the cannabis too quickly? The trim came pretty chopped up but I don’t know how they trimmed it I’m assuming a drum roll trimmer as it waschopped up pretty finely. The process I’m doing has been verified multiple times with the research I’ve done to make sure I am not messing something up while extracting. Could me getting chlorophyll in my shatter be a result of either a ; they didn’t flush properly, or b ; they dried and cured too quickly?

And saying that , I have a bunch more trim from the same plant, that I want to make into shatter but I want to avoid pulling all the chlorophyll into my extract.
Could I dry the weed out more on a table for a few days or so to get more chlorophyll out? Not too sure if it’s maybe my process or the supply of weed coming in but I have seen many many videos of people using trim(and grinding their weed before) and still getting nice quality shatter.

I have 7 ounces of trim to make into shatter (from the plant that gave me crappy tasting shatter) but I wasn’t sure if drying and curing it more would help me? Any input would be awesome. Thanks roll it upFam!
Someone in another post said maybe they added fan leaves and all into the trimmer and maybe pulling from fan leaves? Does this make the most sense? And how do I avoid pulling it again?
 
JimmiP

JimmiP

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Did it come out with a green tinge? And do you know how it was grown? Did the person or persons you got it from know what they are doing?
If they didn't grow it well and used a lot of pesticides, or didn't dry it well, or store it right, or.......

There's a large number of variables none of us know about the material you are using.

Have you tried winterizing the oil after extraction?
I would call the source of your material and ask a few questions about the grow just to see if it's even worth your time. Not all trim is created equally.
Good luck friend!
 
Tropichigh

Tropichigh

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JimmiP said:
Did it come out with a green tinge? And do you know how it was grown? Did the person or persons you got it from know what they are doing?
If they didn't grow it well and used a lot of pesticides, or didn't dry it well, or store it right, or.......

There's a large number of variables none of us know about the material you are using.

Have you tried winterizing the oil after extraction?
I would call the source of your material and ask a few questions about the grow just to see if it's even worth your time. Not all trim is created equally.
Good luck friend!
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I think I will try and reach out to the supplier for more info like you said, that’s a very good idea. I think the fan leaves were chopped up in the trim (probably to add weight) which is a real bummer for me lol. I think I will get a bottle of 190 proof food grain alcohol and try to clean it up a bit
 
Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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Butane is non polar, so typically doesn't extract much chlorophyll.

Extract from fan leaves does have an "off" taste.

What temperature did you extract at? At -40C you can avoid most of the non target elements.
 
Tropichigh

Tropichigh

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Fadedawg said:
Butane is non polar, so typically doesn't extract much chlorophyll.

Extract from fan leaves does have an "off" taste.

What temperature did you extract at? At -40C you can avoid most of the non target elements.
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I think my freezer only gets to about -15 to -20C which I had my extraction tube in for hours to make sure it was all frozen. Butane was also chilled in the fridge as I’ve read freezer isn’t the most safe spot for butane but could also do a quick freezer blast on the butane if needed. I set everything up and grabbed my extraction tube last and went right out, set it up in my green machine extractor(great product for blasting safely) and blasted as fast as I could . 1 can per oz is what I used.
 
Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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Tropichigh said:
I think my freezer only gets to about -15 to -20C which I had my extraction tube in for hours to make sure it was all frozen. Butane was also chilled in the fridge as I’ve read freezer isn’t the most safe spot for butane but could also do a quick freezer blast on the butane if needed. I set everything up and grabbed my extraction tube last and went right out, set it up in my green machine extractor(great product for blasting safely) and blasted as fast as I could . 1 can per oz is what I used.
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Chilling the butane is key to reducing pickup of molecules longer than our targeted C-22, so you can improve your process by chilling it to -30/-50C, but chlorophyll is not likely to be the source of your bitter flavor.

Some water solubles are bitter, but unlikely using a non polar solvent on frozen material, so I suspect contaminants. Do you know the materials life history with regard to food, foliar sprays, and pesticides?
 
Tropichigh

Tropichigh

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Fadedawg said:
Chilling the butane is key to reducing pickup of molecules longer than our targeted C-22, so you can improve your process by chilling it to -30/-50C, but chlorophyll is not likely to be the source of your bitter flavor.

Some water solubles are bitter, but unlikely using a non polar solvent on frozen material, so I suspect contaminants. Do you know the materials life history with regard to food, foliar sprays, and pesticides?
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I am not too sure about the life of the trim unfortunately. I got some outdoor bud from a buddy so I am going to try a blast this weekend and see if my results are different. I will try and freeze my butane too like you said
 
Tropichigh

Tropichigh

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Fadedawg said:
Chilling the butane is key to reducing pickup of molecules longer than our targeted C-22, so you can improve your process by chilling it to -30/-50C, but chlorophyll is not likely to be the source of your bitter flavor.

Some water solubles are bitter, but unlikely using a non polar solvent on frozen material, so I suspect contaminants. Do you know the materials life history with regard to food, foliar sprays, and pesticides?
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I have four cans of puretane left, and 12 cans of Colibri. Is it OK to blast my bud with two different kinds of butane? Or should I try and stick to one kind per blast?
 
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