Pandemic 2020

[Fogdog]

nope, can't help u on plasma beings, but if u get terminal cancer like i did 7 years ago, u should look up rick simpson and dennis hill for starters.
so yeah, research saved my life.

I'm sorry. I was being sarcastic because I'm pretty down on this idea that one can read a few papers and know more on the subject than somebody who spends decades studying a subject.

There is nothing WRONG with reading up and it does most certainly help the patient make decisions that only they can make. Just, if something I hear from some stage hand who read a paper contradicts guidance from the CDC, I'm going to lean hard towards what the professionals say.

I AM a research scientist and I can't tell you the number of times I've dealt with people who cling to something they read that confirms their bias without them really understanding the subject. I've seen a great deal of harm done when those people are in charge. Bankruptcies, thousands of jobs lost. My industry isn't critical and nobody dies if we make a mistake but people can lose their livelihood when we make decisions based upon false assumptions.

Take @PJ Diaz , for example. He thinks that because a paper (a good one) says that t cells can be long lasting after a person contracts and recovers from Covid, that means he shouldn't take the vaccine. (he doesn't really know that he's been infected and recovered but says he "thinks he was")

That is not the guidance from the CDC. They give a list of things they want to know before they would make that call. After all, people die from this disease. They want to know more than just "t-cells".

They think that the results regarding t-cells is a good indication that there is good reason to think that natural immunity is pretty good. They also take a wider view. It's not just about t-cells:

Reinfection with COVID-19
Updated Oct. 27, 2020

Cases of reinfection with COVID-19 have been reported, but remain rare.
In general, reinfection means a person was infected (got sick) once, recovered, and then later became infected again. Based on what we know from similar viruses, some reinfections are expected. We are still learning more about COVID-19. Ongoing COVID-19 studies will help us understand:

• How likely is reinfection
• How often reinfection occurs
• How soon after the first infection can reinfection take place
• How severe are cases of reinfection
• Who might be at higher risk for reinfection
• What reinfection means for a person’s immunity
• If a person is able to spread COVID-19 to other people when reinfected

The above represents a system level view of the subject that takes a great deal of reading, hands on research, and experience.

So, I'm sorry to hear that you had a brush with death over cancer. I completely agree that people should read up and become as informed as possible when they are making healthcare decisions. But I don't think a lay person can read a few papers and become better informed than a proficient and thorough medical professional. I know I can't. So, I'll listen to Fauci first and last.

 

[Bublonichronic]

Reading other people's research papers is called research?

I call that reading original source material, not research. But whatever. As you point out, who needs all that education, time spent in labs, learning from world renowned experts and years of experience in the field. Go read a paper. We all are part of the universe and knowledge is gained from listening to the chorus of the cosmos. Also polar bears.

BTW, do you have any suggestions on where I should do "research" about plasma beings?

I always wondered, your fadedawg right ?

 

[Fogdog]

I always wondered, your fadedawg right ?

Tell us about Plasma Beings. Need to know more about Plasma Beings.

 

[Bublonichronic]

Tell us about Plasma Beings. Need to know more about Plasma Beings.

I been out the weed game for a while but I remember you were kinda the authority on extracts back when BHO really started poppin, crazy what people are doing nowadays

 

[printer]

White House: Florida accounts for 20 percent of all new COVID-19 infections
Cases are rising across the nation as a whole as the more transmissible delta variant spreads but are concentrated in areas with low vaccination rates.

"Just four states accounted for more than 40 percent of all cases in the past week, with 1 in 5 of all cases occurring in Florida alone," White House COVID-19 coordinator Jeff Zients told reporters during a briefing Friday.

"We will likely ... continue to experience an increase in COVID cases in the weeks ahead, with these cases concentrated in communities with lower vaccination rates," Zients said

Florida is seeing some of the highest coronavirus hospitalizations, new infections and deaths per capita in the country. The numbers bottomed out as vaccinations became available but recently have been climbing.

Currently, the state is reporting an average of 29 new infections for every 100,000 people per day — more than four times the national average.

The positivity rate is hovering around 10 percent, and according to federal data, the seven-day moving average is more than 5,600 cases a day.

Gov. Ron DeSantis's (R) campaign team this week began selling "Don't Fauci My Florida" merchandise, the latest in a string of conservative attacks on the nation's top infectious diseases doctor, Anthony Fauci.

White House: Florida accounts for 20 percent of all new COVID-19 infections

Nearly 20 percent of the nation’s new coronavirus infections are now happening in Florida alone, according to a White House official.Cases are rising across the nation as a whole as the more …

thehill.com

 

[captainmorgan]

Senior Biden officials finding that Covid lab leak theory as credible as natural origins explanation

Senior Biden administration officials overseeing an intelligence review into the origins of the coronavirus now believe the theory that the virus accidentally escaped from a lab in Wuhan is at least as credible as the possibility that it emerged naturally in the wild -- a dramatic shift from a...

www.cnn.com

 

[hanimmal]

Senior Biden officials finding that Covid lab leak theory as credible as natural origins explanation

Senior Biden administration officials overseeing an intelligence review into the origins of the coronavirus now believe the theory that the virus accidentally escaped from a lab in Wuhan is at least as credible as the possibility that it emerged naturally in the wild -- a dramatic shift from a...

www.cnn.com

Here is the leap that I am not sure is ever made:

Am I wrong in thinking that the officials are not saying 'Wuhan lab' and CNN is making that leap? And the lady basically just verbatim states the set up by Trump by trolling the virus with his racist names.

 

[mooray]

Something I don't like on the left is, the harder people fight where it came from, the bigger the potential victory is for republicans, and all on something that just doesn't matter. It should have been treated in a more diffusing manner, something like, "yeah maybe it did, we're not sure, we're just focusing on helping people get better". That way there's zero "gotcha!!!" later on. Why risk credibility on being so sure about something we're unsure about, and all for what, tribalism? Blah.

 

[hanimmal]

Something I don't like on the left is, the harder people fight where it came from, the bigger the potential victory is for republicans, and all on something that just doesn't matter. It should have been treated in a more diffusing manner, something like, "yeah maybe it did, we're not sure, we're just focusing on helping people get better". That way there's zero "gotcha!!!" later on. Why risk credibility on being so sure about something we're unsure about, and all for what, tribalism? Blah.

Im not sure that I have seen anyone do anything more than repeat that is what the 'left' is doing that they heard from some Republican.

The only thing I really remember was all the race bait words Trump was pushing months before it was known for certain and the Democrats calling them out for what they were doing, triggering dangerous brainwashed people into doing violence on 'them'. Then the Republicans kept moving the bar until now it is something that nobody would have been able to say with any certainty at all one way or another and then trolling is as something 'the left' believes.

 

[Jimdamick]

It says NYC from a year ago. LOL

I just used the images as an example.
No, not all are from Florida
Sorry for the confusion
Come back in a couple of weeks & I think I will be able to update with pure Florida

 

[cancerkiller]

I'm sorry. I was being sarcastic because I'm pretty down on this idea that one can read a few papers and know more on the subject than somebody who spends decades studying a subject.

There is nothing WRONG with reading up and it does most certainly help the patient make decisions that only they can make. Just, if something I hear from some stage hand who read a paper contradicts guidance from the CDC, I'm going to lean hard towards what the professionals say.

I AM a research scientist and I can't tell you the number of times I've dealt with people who cling to something they read that confirms their bias without them really understanding the subject. I've seen a great deal of harm done when those people are in charge. Bankruptcies, thousands of jobs lost. My industry isn't critical and nobody dies if we make a mistake but people can lose their livelihood when we make decisions based upon false assumptions.

Take @PJ Diaz , for example. He thinks that because a paper (a good one) says that t cells can be long lasting after a person contracts and recovers from Covid, that means he shouldn't take the vaccine. (he doesn't really know that he's been infected and recovered but says he "thinks he was")

That is not the guidance from the CDC. They give a list of things they want to know before they would make that call. After all, people die from this disease. They want to know more than just "t-cells".

They think that the results regarding t-cells is a good indication that there is good reason to think that natural immunity is pretty good. They also take a wider view. It's not just about t-cells:

Reinfection with COVID-19
Updated Oct. 27, 2020

Cases of reinfection with COVID-19 have been reported, but remain rare.
In general, reinfection means a person was infected (got sick) once, recovered, and then later became infected again. Based on what we know from similar viruses, some reinfections are expected. We are still learning more about COVID-19. Ongoing COVID-19 studies will help us understand:

• How likely is reinfection
• How often reinfection occurs
• How soon after the first infection can reinfection take place
• How severe are cases of reinfection
• Who might be at higher risk for reinfection
• What reinfection means for a person’s immunity
• If a person is able to spread COVID-19 to other people when reinfected

The above represents a system level view of the subject that takes a great deal of reading, hands on research, and experience.

So, I'm sorry to hear that you had a brush with death over cancer. I completely agree that people should read up and become as informed as possible when they are making healthcare decisions. But I don't think a lay person can read a few papers and become better informed than a proficient and thorough medical professional. I know I can't. So, I'll listen to Fauci first and last.

my 3 months to live in 2014 terminal cancer didn't go anywhere, it's still a handball size tumor deep inside me causing me problems 24/7.
a brush with death over cancer, might be what u would say to somebody that has had their cancer surgically removed and they think they are good.
i'm just survivng terminal cancer daily and someday i'll die.
the cancer part isn't over.
look up the stats on cancer and alzheimer's.
alzheimer's is growing rapidly and there is no cure, although researchers are looking into thc for removing beta amyloid plaques they think causes it.

i never say "cannabis cures cancer" because i think what thc does is kill cancer cells.
so thc's job is to kill more cancer cells than the cancer can make.
so, inside my body is this little war going on 24/7 of my 1600mg of solventless decarboxylated cannabis flower extract daily, which is probably 90% thc, and my cancer.
so far, 7 years 3 months, so good.
haven't seen a doctor since sept 23, 2014, and i don't take any other pills other than my 4/400mg extract pills daily.
what i find hilarious, is that the govt thinks my extract is recreational.
hahahaha!
anybody wanna do 400mg of extract orally, not fun, i don't recommend it until u have spent some weeks working up to it.
i'm pretty sure the reason more humans don't use extract to save themselves is because of the mental side effects.
i didn't like it, i don't like it, but presently taking 1600mg, which is like consuming 2/3rds of an oz daily, but after watching my father pass away from prostate cancer in 1994,
i'll continue to do it.
most humans get the news u have three months to live because of ur inoperable cancer, and in three months or sooner, u never hear from them again.
i'm just stubborn and determined to prove the doctors and big pharma wrong.
smoking cannabis and taking extract orally are two very different things.

 

[cancerkiller]

here's florida.

 

[mooray]

Stay away from sugar. Eat green superfoods.

Best wishes to you regardless of any political disagreements.

 

[cancerkiller]

Stay away from sugar. Eat green superfoods.

Best wishes to you regardless of any political disagreements.

mostly peanut butter on white bread, protein bars, it's all trial and error.
u will know what works and what doesn't real quick.
this is what radiation does to u.
i can't eat at a restaurant, i'll die.
google "radiation food borne illnesses".
it's all part of surviving cancer.
look at how long olivia newton john has been going with the help of her husband, john easterling.
but i wholeheartedly appreciate ur thoughts.
funny how u change when ur research and ur cancer doc both determine u only have three months to live.
i was relieved, i figured about a month.

 

[Fogdog]

here's florida.
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New cases are on the rise in Florida. Most, by far in this country. We'll see the number of deaths per day double or more in about three weeks.

Too bad for unvaccinated people. Maybe they thought they were doing the right thing when they listened to the "research" that convinced them to refuse. I don't think their research helped them.

It was their right to ignore advice from experts. Too bad for them that they did.

 

[mooray]

I know you have to get down what you can and what you're doing seems to be working for you, but the cancer also likes those foods. Of course if I were in your shoes and had a routine down and the cancer wasn't spreading, I sure as shit wouldn't change what I'm doing.

 

[hanimmal]

I know you have to get down what you can and what you're doing seems to be working for you, but the cancer also likes those foods. Of course if I were in your shoes and had a routine down and the cancer wasn't spreading, I sure as shit wouldn't change what I'm doing.

 

[cancerkiller]

I know you have to get down what you can and what you're doing seems to be working for you, but the cancer also likes those foods. Of course if I were in your shoes and had a routine down and the cancer wasn't spreading, I sure as shit wouldn't change what I'm doing.

for my prostate cancer, the worst thing is high testosterone, and mine was 884 after a couple months of extract(cannabis lowers ur testosterone)so the doctors insisted on castration drugs and all kinds of other bullshit, said i was wasting my time and theirs for not taking them.
i have a folder full of research papers and data showing me how great castration drugs and how my life expectancy would be nil without them.
and as many years of schooling these researchers , scientists and doctors had, none of them had heard of cannabis extract or the endocannabinoid system circa 2014.
hell, i'm sure most haven't heard of either yet.
doctors generally are not computer literate, that's beneath them.
ecs isn't taught in med school.

 

[Fogdog]

for my prostate cancer, the worst thing is high testosterone, and mine was 884 after a couple months of extract(cannabis lowers ur testosterone)so the doctors insisted on castration drugs and all kinds of other bullshit, said i was wasting my time and theirs for not taking them.
i have a folder full of research papers and data showing me how great castration drugs and how my life expectancy would be nil without them.
and as many years of schooling these researchers , scientists and doctors had, none of them had heard of cannabis extract or the endocannabinoid system circa 2014.
hell, i'm sure most haven't heard of either yet.
doctors generally are not computer literate, that's beneath them.
ecs isn't taught in med school.

What you are doing, I would call folk medicine. We still don't know enough about medical MJ to fully understand how to use it. Given how many are benefitting through their own ad hoc trials, medical science is still lagging folk medicine on this.

There has been an outright ban on any US research into medical uses of cannabis for something like 80 years. This was a decision by politicians, not doctors. I can't blame medical doctors for not knowing. They have been bound by FDA restrictions against even studying the plant. I think it was 2015 before lab reports were available that showed THC killed cancer cells. NIH did acknowledge that those reports were valid and then hewed to pollical demands that it remain schedule 1. That contradiction says it all.

Still, we are not doing enough real research into medical MJ. You took a shot in the dark. I'm glad for you that it worked.

What does this have to do with Covid vaccines?

 

[cancerkiller]

in case u miss this,
from my own "research" of doing min1000mg of thc daily for 7 years,
although i never thought i had alzheimer's or memory problems, i just didn't give a shit what ur name was honestly,
but i do think my memory is better.
in my profession, i was a baby, so my professional contacts are all ten plus years older and i'm 67 so i see their decline.
they know it.
my sister has dementia.
pandemic, cancer, alzheimer's, everything is out to get us.
i used to be braver before surviving cancer so long, now i'm a scaredy cat.
could be lower testosterone

Marijuana compound removes Alzheimer's-related protein from nerve cells

Researchers find the active compound in marijuana - THC - reduces levels of beta-amyloid in nerve cells, a protein that is a hallmark of Alzheimer's.

www.medicalnewstoday.com