Tangerine_
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Thanks.
I guess I'm a little surprised that this far into the pandemic we still have so much anti-science...or should I say *willful ignorance* masquerading as *free thought*
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I guess I'm a little surprised that this far into the pandemic we still have so much anti-science...or should I say *willful ignorance* masquerading as *free thought*
Tangerine_
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Divert, distract, play the victim
hanimmal
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Budzbuddha
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Some people just need their asses kicked ….
Fuck Fox news …
Fuck Fox news …
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printer
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Missouri to offer vaccine incentives amid emerging COVID-19 hotspot
As Missouri emerges as a new epicenter of a summer coronavirus surge, Gov. Mike Parson (R) said Wednesday the state would offer its first incentives to urge residents to get vaccinated against a disease that has already killed more than 10,000 of his constituents.
Missouri residents who have already received or choose to receive a vaccine protecting them from COVID-19 would be eligible to receive one of 900 prizes worth $10,000, either in cash or in an education savings account, Parson said.
The winners will be distributed equally between Missouri’s eight congressional districts, with a special category set aside for those between the ages of 12 and 17 who receive the vaccines who would be eligible for the education awards.
As the new delta variant of the coronavirus, first identified in India, has swarmed over the United States, places like Missouri - where far fewer people have received vaccines than the national average - have become the new hotspots.
Parson acknowledged the hesitancy Missourians had shown toward accepting a coronavirus vaccine in announcing the new incentives.
“We understand that some Missourians are hesitant towards getting the vaccine, but we must all take personal responsibility and do right by our own health and that of our friends and families by getting vaccinated,” he said. “Our current COVID-19 situation is serious. This Delta variant transmits faster than what we have previously seen and is more likely to impact children and the unvaccinated.”
thehill.com
As Missouri emerges as a new epicenter of a summer coronavirus surge, Gov. Mike Parson (R) said Wednesday the state would offer its first incentives to urge residents to get vaccinated against a disease that has already killed more than 10,000 of his constituents.
Missouri residents who have already received or choose to receive a vaccine protecting them from COVID-19 would be eligible to receive one of 900 prizes worth $10,000, either in cash or in an education savings account, Parson said.
The winners will be distributed equally between Missouri’s eight congressional districts, with a special category set aside for those between the ages of 12 and 17 who receive the vaccines who would be eligible for the education awards.
As the new delta variant of the coronavirus, first identified in India, has swarmed over the United States, places like Missouri - where far fewer people have received vaccines than the national average - have become the new hotspots.
Parson acknowledged the hesitancy Missourians had shown toward accepting a coronavirus vaccine in announcing the new incentives.
“We understand that some Missourians are hesitant towards getting the vaccine, but we must all take personal responsibility and do right by our own health and that of our friends and families by getting vaccinated,” he said. “Our current COVID-19 situation is serious. This Delta variant transmits faster than what we have previously seen and is more likely to impact children and the unvaccinated.”
Missouri to offer vaccine incentives amid emerging COVID-19 hotspot
As Missouri emerges as a new epicenter of a summer coronavirus surge, Gov. Mike Parson (R) said Wednesday the state would offer its first incentives to urge residents to get vaccinated against a di…
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DIY-HP-LED
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SE Cupp: GOP's reluctance to push vaccines is literally shrinking the base
CNN's SE Cupp says the GOP's reluctance to promote Covid-19 vaccinations will shrink their voter base.
CNN's SE Cupp says the GOP's reluctance to promote Covid-19 vaccinations will shrink their voter base.
Nursing homes are being hit again this time by unvaccinated workers:
The CDC conducted its investigation of delta variant outbreaks in elder care facilities in Mesa County, Colorado, in May and June. The area is a coronavirus hot spot. The agency said it is assisting states and counties throughout the nation as part of the White House’s COVID-19 “surge teams.”
apnews.com
The CDC conducted its investigation of delta variant outbreaks in elder care facilities in Mesa County, Colorado, in May and June. The area is a coronavirus hot spot. The agency said it is assisting states and counties throughout the nation as part of the White House’s COVID-19 “surge teams.”
Unvaccinated staff eyed in rising nursing home cases, deaths
Lagging vaccination rates among nursing home staff are being linked to a national increase in COVID-19 infections and deaths at senior facilities, and are at the center of a federal investigation in a hard-hit Colorado location where disease detectives found many workers were not inoculated.
apnews.com
My god they've made themselves look bad.
topcat
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My former wife, and now former best friend, is a crusader against the vaccine. She claims to hate Individual 1, from further back than his foray into politics, yet she repeats some of the same buzz words and phrases of his base, such as "everybody dies." It saddens me to let go of her, but there is no talking to these people, it only gives me grief, so I eliminate the source, that's the control I have over my own mental well being.
hanimmal
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Fauci messed up on Ari Melber tonight.
I think he must be catching up on all the conspiracy propaganda that the death cult trolls are pushing and accidentally said the word 'vaccine' in a sentence about how the virus spreads.
I figure it will become some edited click bait for trolls to spread eventually.
That poor guy is having to learn about internet trolling while dealing with a global pandemic.
I think he must be catching up on all the conspiracy propaganda that the death cult trolls are pushing and accidentally said the word 'vaccine' in a sentence about how the virus spreads.
I figure it will become some edited click bait for trolls to spread eventually.
That poor guy is having to learn about internet trolling while dealing with a global pandemic.
Budzbuddha
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RIP Little man ….. this is why we need to protect ourselves and others.
DIY-HP-LED
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In Canada almost 80% of the eligible population has had one shot and almost 60% are fully vaccinated. Of the total population nearly 70% have been vaccinated and almost 52% fully vaccinated. I expect many places in Canada will be almost 90% vaccinated by the end of summer, 83.5% of the eligible have already had at least one dose where I live here in NS.
There is a big and growing gap between the vaccination rates in Canada and the USA, we have just as many of the regular antivaxxer wingnuts and disinformation victims, the main difference seems to be political. Some conservative places in Western Canada with large populations of young people might not get to 80% though, but should come close.
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US virus cases nearly triple in 2 weeks amid misinformation (apnews.com)
US virus cases nearly triple in 2 weeks amid misinformation
MISSION, Kan. (AP) — COVID-19 cases nearly tripled in the U.S. over two weeks amid an onslaught of vaccine misinformation that is straining hospitals, exhausting doctors and pushing clergy into the fray.
“Our staff, they are frustrated,” said Chad Neilsen, director of infection prevention at UF Health Jacksonville, a Florida hospital that is canceling elective surgeries and procedures after the number of mostly unvaccinated COVID-19 inpatients at its two campuses jumped to 134, up from a low of 16 in mid-May.
“They are tired. They are thinking this is déjà vu all over again, and there is some anger because we know that this is a largely preventable situation, and people are not taking advantage of the vaccine.”
Across the U.S., the seven-day rolling average for daily new cases rose over the past two weeks to more than 37,000 on Tuesday, up from less than 13,700 on July 6, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. Health officials blame the delta variant and slowing vaccination rates. Just 56.2% of Americans have gotten at least one dose of the vaccine, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
In Louisiana, health officials reported 5,388 new COVID-19 cases Wednesday — the third-highest daily count since the beginning of the pandemic in early 2020. Hospitalizations for the disease rose to 844 statewide, up more than 600 since mid-June. New Orleans leaders urged people to resume wearing masks indoors.
Utah reported having 295 people hospitalized due to the virus, the highest number since February. The state has averaged about 622 confirmed cases per day over the last week, about triple the infection rate at its lowest point in early June. Health data shows the surge is almost entirely connected to unvaccinated people.
“It is like seeing the car wreck before it happens,” said Dr. James Williams, a clinical associate professor of emergency medicine at Texas Tech, who has recently started treating more COVID-19 patients. “None of us want to go through this again.”
He said the patients are younger — many in their 20s, 30s and 40s — and overwhelmingly unvaccinated.
As lead pastor of one of Missouri’s largest churches, Jeremy Johnson has heard the reasons congregants don’t want the COVID-19 vaccine. He wants them to know it’s not only OK to get vaccinated, it’s what the Bible urges.
“I think there is a big influence of fear,” said Johnson, whose Springfield-based church also has a campus in Nixa and another about to open in Republic. “A fear of trusting something apart from scripture, a fear of trusting something apart from a political party they’re more comfortable following. A fear of trusting in science. We hear that: ‘I trust in God, not science.’ But the truth is science and God are not something you have to choose between.”
Now many churches in southwestern Missouri, like Johnson’s Assembly of God-affiliated North Point Church, are hosting vaccination clinics. Meanwhile, about 200 church leaders have signed onto a statement urging Christians to get vaccinated, and on Wednesday announced a follow-up public service campaign.
Opposition to vaccination is especially strong among white evangelical Protestants, who make up more than one-third of Missouri’s residents, according to a 2019 report by the Pew Research Center.
“We found that the faith community is very influential, very trusted, and to me that is one of the answers as to how you get your vaccination rates up,” said Ken McClure, mayor of Springfield.
The two hospitals in his city are teeming with patients, reaching record and near-record pandemic highs. Steve Edwards, who is the CEO of CoxHealth in Springfield, tweeted that the hospital has brought in 175 traveling nurses and has 46 more scheduled to arrive by Monday.
“Grateful for the help,” wrote Edwards, who previously tweeted that anyone spreading misinformation about the vaccine should “shut up.”
Jacob Burmood, a 40-year-old Kansas City, Missouri, artist, said his mother has been promoting vaccine conspiracy theories even though her husband — Burmood’s stepfather — is hospitalized on a ventilator in Springfield.
“It is really, really sad, and it is really frustrating,” he said.
Burmood recalled how his mother had recently fallen ill and “was trying to tell me that vaccinated people got her sick, and it wasn’t even COVID. I just shut her down. I said, ‘Mom, I can’t talk to you about conspiracy theories right now.’ ... You need to go to a hospital. You are going to die.”
His mother, who is in her 70s, has since recovered.
In New York City, workers in city-run hospitals and health clinics will be required to get vaccinated or get tested weekly as officials battle a rise in COVID-19 cases, Mayor Bill de Blasio said Wednesday.
De Blasio’s order will not apply to teachers, police officers and other city employees, but it’s part of the city’s intense focus on vaccinations amid an increase in delta variant infections.
The number of vaccine doses being given out daily in the city has dropped to less than 18,000, down from a peak of more than 100,000 in early April. About 65% of all adults are fully vaccinated, compared with about 60% of public hospital system staffers, said system leader Dr. Mitchell Katz.
Meanwhile, caseloads have been rising in the city for weeks, and health officials say the variant makes up about 7 in 10 cases they sequence.
“We have got to deal with it aggressively. And in the end, there is also a thing called personal responsibility,” de Blasio said, urging inoculated people to raise the issue with unvaccinated relatives and “get up in their face.”
Back in Louisiana, New Orleans officials issued the new guidance on indoor masks, hoping to avoid the kind of virus-related shutdowns that devastated the city’s tourism economy in 2020. Mayor LaToya Cantrell stopped short of requiring masks. She said the advisory “puts the responsibility on individuals themselves.”
The announcement came as the city’s seven-day average of new cases rose to 117, the highest level since early February. It had fallen as low as eight in mid-June.
There is a big and growing gap between the vaccination rates in Canada and the USA, we have just as many of the regular antivaxxer wingnuts and disinformation victims, the main difference seems to be political. Some conservative places in Western Canada with large populations of young people might not get to 80% though, but should come close.
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US virus cases nearly triple in 2 weeks amid misinformation (apnews.com)
US virus cases nearly triple in 2 weeks amid misinformation
MISSION, Kan. (AP) — COVID-19 cases nearly tripled in the U.S. over two weeks amid an onslaught of vaccine misinformation that is straining hospitals, exhausting doctors and pushing clergy into the fray.
“Our staff, they are frustrated,” said Chad Neilsen, director of infection prevention at UF Health Jacksonville, a Florida hospital that is canceling elective surgeries and procedures after the number of mostly unvaccinated COVID-19 inpatients at its two campuses jumped to 134, up from a low of 16 in mid-May.
“They are tired. They are thinking this is déjà vu all over again, and there is some anger because we know that this is a largely preventable situation, and people are not taking advantage of the vaccine.”
Across the U.S., the seven-day rolling average for daily new cases rose over the past two weeks to more than 37,000 on Tuesday, up from less than 13,700 on July 6, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. Health officials blame the delta variant and slowing vaccination rates. Just 56.2% of Americans have gotten at least one dose of the vaccine, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
In Louisiana, health officials reported 5,388 new COVID-19 cases Wednesday — the third-highest daily count since the beginning of the pandemic in early 2020. Hospitalizations for the disease rose to 844 statewide, up more than 600 since mid-June. New Orleans leaders urged people to resume wearing masks indoors.
Utah reported having 295 people hospitalized due to the virus, the highest number since February. The state has averaged about 622 confirmed cases per day over the last week, about triple the infection rate at its lowest point in early June. Health data shows the surge is almost entirely connected to unvaccinated people.
“It is like seeing the car wreck before it happens,” said Dr. James Williams, a clinical associate professor of emergency medicine at Texas Tech, who has recently started treating more COVID-19 patients. “None of us want to go through this again.”
He said the patients are younger — many in their 20s, 30s and 40s — and overwhelmingly unvaccinated.
As lead pastor of one of Missouri’s largest churches, Jeremy Johnson has heard the reasons congregants don’t want the COVID-19 vaccine. He wants them to know it’s not only OK to get vaccinated, it’s what the Bible urges.
“I think there is a big influence of fear,” said Johnson, whose Springfield-based church also has a campus in Nixa and another about to open in Republic. “A fear of trusting something apart from scripture, a fear of trusting something apart from a political party they’re more comfortable following. A fear of trusting in science. We hear that: ‘I trust in God, not science.’ But the truth is science and God are not something you have to choose between.”
Now many churches in southwestern Missouri, like Johnson’s Assembly of God-affiliated North Point Church, are hosting vaccination clinics. Meanwhile, about 200 church leaders have signed onto a statement urging Christians to get vaccinated, and on Wednesday announced a follow-up public service campaign.
Opposition to vaccination is especially strong among white evangelical Protestants, who make up more than one-third of Missouri’s residents, according to a 2019 report by the Pew Research Center.
“We found that the faith community is very influential, very trusted, and to me that is one of the answers as to how you get your vaccination rates up,” said Ken McClure, mayor of Springfield.
The two hospitals in his city are teeming with patients, reaching record and near-record pandemic highs. Steve Edwards, who is the CEO of CoxHealth in Springfield, tweeted that the hospital has brought in 175 traveling nurses and has 46 more scheduled to arrive by Monday.
“Grateful for the help,” wrote Edwards, who previously tweeted that anyone spreading misinformation about the vaccine should “shut up.”
Jacob Burmood, a 40-year-old Kansas City, Missouri, artist, said his mother has been promoting vaccine conspiracy theories even though her husband — Burmood’s stepfather — is hospitalized on a ventilator in Springfield.
“It is really, really sad, and it is really frustrating,” he said.
Burmood recalled how his mother had recently fallen ill and “was trying to tell me that vaccinated people got her sick, and it wasn’t even COVID. I just shut her down. I said, ‘Mom, I can’t talk to you about conspiracy theories right now.’ ... You need to go to a hospital. You are going to die.”
His mother, who is in her 70s, has since recovered.
In New York City, workers in city-run hospitals and health clinics will be required to get vaccinated or get tested weekly as officials battle a rise in COVID-19 cases, Mayor Bill de Blasio said Wednesday.
De Blasio’s order will not apply to teachers, police officers and other city employees, but it’s part of the city’s intense focus on vaccinations amid an increase in delta variant infections.
The number of vaccine doses being given out daily in the city has dropped to less than 18,000, down from a peak of more than 100,000 in early April. About 65% of all adults are fully vaccinated, compared with about 60% of public hospital system staffers, said system leader Dr. Mitchell Katz.
Meanwhile, caseloads have been rising in the city for weeks, and health officials say the variant makes up about 7 in 10 cases they sequence.
“We have got to deal with it aggressively. And in the end, there is also a thing called personal responsibility,” de Blasio said, urging inoculated people to raise the issue with unvaccinated relatives and “get up in their face.”
Back in Louisiana, New Orleans officials issued the new guidance on indoor masks, hoping to avoid the kind of virus-related shutdowns that devastated the city’s tourism economy in 2020. Mayor LaToya Cantrell stopped short of requiring masks. She said the advisory “puts the responsibility on individuals themselves.”
The announcement came as the city’s seven-day average of new cases rose to 117, the highest level since early February. It had fallen as low as eight in mid-June.
DIY-HP-LED
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It's either get vaccinated or join the delta herd, provided they survive the ordeal. This variant is so contagious and can be spread by some fully vaccinated people, that it's moving very quickly and overwhelming healthcare systems. The right is starting to panic and rightly so, this variant will seek them out and spread exponentially in low vax areas with no masks or distancing and public gatherings.
printer
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It seems it is no longer a game.
Dr.Amber Trichome
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It can be spread by fully vaccinated individuals?I thought that was virtually impossible.
injinji
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Less likely, but still possible. It's happening so fast, we are having to learn on the fly.
DIY-HP-LED
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Not everybody is equally immune after vaccination, the protection can vary a bit. People can still get asymptomatic or mild cases of covid after vaccination, but they are less likely to be as contagious and not for long. Delta couldn't spread as quickly through the population unless some of the vaccinated caught it to some degree. The main thing is hospitalizations and deaths are reduced by 99%, those who are vaccinated might get the "Wu Flu", the unvaccinated are in for a rough ride. If delta hit at near the start of this pandemic say a year ago, we'd be fucked!
Dr.Amber Trichome
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Right! We are so lucky to have gotten the vaccination before Delta arrived. I think we should all just mask up again . It’s getting too confusing who is spreading the shit....and would be good morale for the kids who have to go back to school masked. The one story of the Covid patient who begged the doctor for the vaccine just before she gets intubated is quite a good indicator how fucking dumb these people are. The excuses are pathetic.
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