Received my Mars-Hydro ts1000 damaged

DaFreak said:
What part of CHINA don't you get? You bought something from another country. Anybody with some basic common sense would not expect it to go just like Amazon, but you seem to be lacking some common sense.
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You spew so much bullshit . You claim to have made millions of $ selling weed for $50 a gram. That you are a developer, have Tennant's. In the stock market. And your answer is duck tape. To funny you lying ass hat. Even Timber lights should be crap to you.
 
Wastei said:
I like what most manufacturers do and run 3000k and 4000k combined in every rail. One rail 3k and the other 4k combined with Osram 660nm reds.
Not single rails like Timbers do on their new strip lights, they seem cheap by design tbh.
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I am yet to understand this. if you run 3000k and 4000k all your getting is 3500k, why not just run 3500k, phosphor converted light blends, if you want a specific CCT/Spectrum just buy that, I dont get why people think the sum of blending is greater than the whole of spectrum
cheers
 
welight said:
I am yet to understand this. if you run 3000k and 4000k all your getting is 3500k, why not just run 3500k, phosphor converted light blends, if you want a specific CCT/Spectrum just buy that, I dont get why people think the sum of blending is greater than the whole of spectrum
cheers
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Higher total diod count and higher production numbers for said diodes like 3K and 4K = Lower manufacturing cost(price per unit) and longer life span.
 
Growbag22 said:
You spew so much bullshit . You claim to have made millions of $ selling weed for $50 a gram. That you are a developer, have Tennant's. In the stock market. And your answer is duck tape. To funny you lying ass hat. Even Timber lights should be crap to you.
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I’m probably older than your father, lots of life experiences, those are just the tip of the ice-burg. And I say $50 a gram as an easy way for people to understand, was actually 5,000円 per gram.(so about $22,000 a pound) Americans find it hard to believe that weed costs so much in other countries. But yeah, duck tape. Any grower worth their weight knows the power of duck tape. Other buy Mars-hydro lol.

edit: I know 22k a pound sounds like a lot, but that is when I was young and dumb. No amount of money is worth your freedom. Smarter and easier ways to make money.
 
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DaFreak said:
I’m probably older than your father, lots of life experiences, those are just the tip of the ice-burg. And I say $50 a gram as an easy way for people to understand, was actually 5,000円 per gram. Americans find it hard to believe that weed costs so much in other countries. But yeah, duck tape. Any grower worth their weight knows the power of duck tape. Other buy Mars-hydro lol.
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agree 100% regarding people dont understand how much things cost in other countrys , the world is a big place and a lot of it is still illegal to grow
 
Wastei said:
Higher total diod count and higher production numbers for said diodes like 3K and 4K = Lower manufacturing cost(price per unit) and longer life span.
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bro not sure what any of that means, 3500k diodes can be same diode count, cost to make is no different, longer life??? say what,
cheers
 
DaFreak said:
I’m probably older than your father, lots of life experiences, those are just the tip of the ice-burg. And I say $50 a gram as an easy way for people to understand, was actually 5,000円 per gram.(so about $22,000 a pound) Americans find it hard to believe that weed costs so much in other countries. But yeah, duck tape. Any grower worth their weight knows the power of duck tape. Other buy Mars-hydro lol.

edit: I know 22k a pound sounds like a lot, but that is when I was young and dumb. No amount of money is worth your freedom. Smarter and easier ways to make money.
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You Ass hat are not worth your weight. I called you for what you are after your very first post on this thread. And you done nothing but prove it. Only an idiot would not return broken merchandise that's new and try to fix it with tape. I wish you all the best. This debate has been fun. But I can only laugh so much. Thanks for all the fun. Keep the bullshit stories coming. You really should get a YouTube channel. @DeFreaks home hacks with duck tape.:peace:
 
Star Dog said:
I'm not sure what you mean? If I look at both the light from 4k is whiter than the 3/5k mix on the canopy.
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I'm saying 3000K is more yellow looking since it's more on red side. 5000K is way bluer. I've got both, and some 3500K Rspec's. The 3000k's are better for flower since they have more red. The 5000k are better for veg. The 5000k lights keep the plants much more compact than the 3000k's. Tighter nodes.
 
PadawanWarrior said:
I'm saying 3000K is more yellow looking since it's more on red side. 5000K is way bluer. I've got both, and some 3500K Rspec's. The 3000k's are better for flower since they have more red. The 5000k are better for veg. The 5000k lights keep the plants much more compact than the 3000k's. Tighter nodes.
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Yes to me it's logical that a 3/5k mix covers a wider spectrum, idk much about them but that's logical.
Given the option I'd pick the mixture.
 
Growbag22 said:
You Ass hat are not worth your weight. I called you for what you are after your very first post on this thread. And you done nothing but prove it. Only an idiot would not return broken merchandise that's new and try to fix it with tape. I wish you all the best. This debate has been fun. But I can only laugh so much. Thanks for all the fun. Keep the bullshit stories coming. You really should get a YouTube channel. @DeFreaks home hacks with duck tape.:peace:
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There has been no debate silly, you were, are, and will be some poor soul who thought buying that light was a good idea. But yes, for you I recommend google instead of duck tape, I suggest searching for “Mars hydro” first.
 
I've a couple of mars light and they arrived 100%, it's the only packing I've had with wood in it for support/protection, I know that's completely useless to the op but let's not pretend the op,s experience is the standard from Mars it isn't ime.
 
Star Dog said:
Yes to me it's logical that a 3/5k mix covers a wider spectrum, idk much about them but that's logical.
Given the option I'd pick the mixture.
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It might look like it and it would be hard looking up the thread and the post but I've seen spectrum and ppf/w for these half and half 3/5k and it's identical to 4000k. It's a bit like RGB diodes, If they're close together they can make white light but apart, it's just red green and blue. They only reason this could improve something would be if say you can only find 4000k in a higher voltage bin, and you can find the 5/3k diodes in lower voltage bin (which will increase performance slightly. Or just simply, 4k might be slightly more expensive or less available commercially. This would maybe be cost reducing but not change performance. Another reason to do it is because of bulk buying and flexibility: say you wanna buy up a big bulk of diodes but in the future you may wanna use both 3000k, 3500k and 4000k; switching ratios will make all these spectrum possible while if you only had 4000k diodes youre stuck.

And simply by the fact that this "fool's gold" effect is simply very marketable. But I assure you, there's no real difference for plants.

Pet peeve...
 
That's interesting thanks for posting it, I've only recently tried led I'm very much a learner.
I used hid so I never had any reason to learn about leds.
I'm only just setting up a tent with two 3k and one 4k I plan to put in in the middle of them.
I've also a 300w 3/5k mix I considered putting in the middle?

When I'm flush I might buy another pair of 3k but I'll get by with what I have for the mean time.
 
Rocket makes very good points, mixing bins/spectrum to try and get overall higher PPFD/eff is a promise thats rarely met, what you get on the swings you lose on the merry go round. The matter of 'whiter' light is a whole other subject, google the black body locus and binning below and above the BBL to understand the whiteness of leds. Im a spectrum bender and seeker and build hundreds of led boards a day and test dozens of boards a day, if I could produce a phosphor based spectrum from mixed bins that produced more than single spectrums, we would produce a lot more of them, Typically the spectral richness/diversity of a board is heightened more by the addition of mono chromatics or recently with the uptake on phosphor converted monos, IMHO
Cheers
 
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