Will You Take The Vaccine?

[hanimmal]

ah, good ol saul alinsky's "blame your enemy for what you yourself are guilty of". All you can say is "no ur wrong" to all the facts and data I dropped, and I counter every argument recieced with facts and data. You can't argue for shit because you're too ego driven to even try giving an argument in response when you get challeneged in a way the TV didn't prepare you for! You robotic zombieminded cretin!

Nope, you countered with incorrect bullshit spam that you pretend like the facts and data say.

Which it does not.

Vaccinated people are far less likely to get sick from the cover virus than unvaccinated people.

The pee-wee herman 'I know you are but what am I' troll is funny though.

 

[printer]

Let me rephrase, the majority of people have a 99.9%+ chance of surviving covid as they are younger than 65 and not terribly unhealthy, where as if you also add in the sick and elderly and obese the average drops to about 98.4%+. I see your point but it's a little bit splitting hairs, if I was gambling I wouldn't bet on 1.6% much more confidently than I would 0.01%.



Fair enough, for me that comment was mostly directed at those who say the unvaxxed should be outright denied insurance or medical services for their personal choices, which is ridiculous to me if you're going to allow the same for others.


lol butthurt nazi can't argue on facts and has to goosestep away in shame. Typical nazi rat bastard fuck!


ah, good ol saul alinsky's "blame your enemy for what you yourself are guilty of". All you can say is "no ur wrong" to all the facts and data I dropped, and I counter every argument recieced with facts and data. You can't argue for shit because you're too ego driven to even try giving an argument in response when you get challeneged in a way the TV didn't prepare you for! You robotic zombieminded cretin!

Not splitting hairs. 646,000 dead. And more to come. Would I raise a gun to my head with a 1% or 0.1% chance of a big bang occurring? I don't think so.

Pretty little thing, huh? Died of covid, died just after getting her nursing pin. No health issues beforehand. You can find many more youngsters dying, not as many as us older folk. But Delta is changing that.

 

[FermentFred]

You've been bullshitting and posting links at odds with your stated narrative, they actually say to opposite in many cases.

Prove it You keep saying "ur wrong" yet you never say anything to back it up. Prove it.

Nope, you countered with incorrect bullshit spam that you pretend like the facts and data say.

Which it does not.

Vaccinated people are far less likely to get sick from the cover virus than unvaccinated people.

The pee-wee herman 'I know you are but what am I' troll is funny though.

Now you're moving the goalposts again, you say "sick" to imply "infected" when you're really saying "severely symptomatic". I always said the vaccine reduced the severity of symptoms for those who took it. I've also shown the double vaxxed when compared to those with natural immunity are 6x more likely to be infected, 27x more likely to be symptomatic, and 8x more likely to be hospitalized, which you've had no response for. I've also shown the vaxxed carry similar viral loads to the unvaxxed, which is correlated to transmissibility, aka they likely are just as infectious as the unvaxxed. Where's your data? Show me. Prove it. Nazi

 

[printer]

Prove it You keep saying "ur wrong" yet you never say anything to back it up. Prove it.


Now you're moving the goalposts again, you say "sick" to imply "infected" when you're really saying "severely symptomatic". I always said the vaccine reduced the severity of symptoms for those who took it. I've also shown the double vaxxed when compared to those with natural immunity are 6x more likely to be infected, 27x more likely to be symptomatic, and 8x more likely to be hospitalized, which you've had no response for. I've also shown the vaxxed carry similar viral loads to the unvaxxed, which is correlated to transmissibility, aka they likely are just as infectious as the unvaxxed. Where's your data? Show me. Prove it. Nazi

Not an easy thing to do starting from scratch as some here would have to. On the other hand I am a little more versed in medical trials, papers and the like. I have been mining the field for about ten years, not covid naturally. So score one point for 'putting a poster in their place, because they do not have the tools at their disposal. But I know the limitations of your data, might want to tone down your cockiness. I would take it up but I have a month of reasonable weather left to get a project built. I would rather get that done that go, 'Na, na, ha, na, na'

 

[doublejj]

Prove it You keep saying "ur wrong" yet you never say anything to back it up. Prove it.


Now you're moving the goalposts again, you say "sick" to imply "infected" when you're really saying "severely symptomatic". I always said the vaccine reduced the severity of symptoms for those who took it. I've also shown the double vaxxed when compared to those with natural immunity are 6x more likely to be infected, 27x more likely to be symptomatic, and 8x more likely to be hospitalized, which you've had no response for. I've also shown the vaxxed carry similar viral loads to the unvaxxed, which is correlated to transmissibility, aka they likely are just as infectious as the unvaxxed. Where's your data? Show me. Prove it. Nazi

save this for your health insurers inevitable rate hike....

 

[FermentFred]

Not splitting hairs. 646,000 dead. And more to come. Would I raise a gun to my head with a 1% or 0.1% chance of a big bang occurring? I don't think so.

Pretty little thing, huh? Died of covid, died just after getting her nursing pin. No health issues beforehand. You can find many more youngsters dying, not as many as us older folk. But Delta is changing that.

Sorry to hear that, but I'm not splitting hairs either, 99.9+% recovered sans the sick, the fat, the old, and the freak occasion. We could talk anecdotes all day:



Look at this animal. This BEAST of a man. Recovered from covid within three days after a treatment using several drugs, including the people dewormer ivermectin. No health issues beforehand. You can find many more oldsters dying, not as many of us old folks recovering. But Ivermectin is changing that.

 

[hanimmal]

I've also shown the double vaxxed when compared to those with natural immunity are 6x more likely to be infected, 27x more likely to be symptomatic, and 8x more likely to be hospitalized, which you've had no response for.

Horseshit. That is my response to your just saying things and pretending like they are true spam death cult troll.

I've also shown the vaxxed carry similar viral loads to the unvaxxed, which is correlated to transmissibility, aka they likely are just as infectious as the unvaxxed. Where's your data? Show me. Prove it. Nazi

More horseshit. The link showed that people who are vaccinated and have a breakthrough case of the virus that puts them in a hospital have the same levels of virus in their system and are as virulent. That is not the same as 'vaccinated people carry similar viral loads'. And because of this you are wrong. Because vaccinated people are 26x less likely to have a breakthrough case as people who are not vaccinated.

You just keep up the death cult spamming.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/will-you-take-the-vaccine.1036432/post-16516369

 

[FermentFred]

Not an easy thing to do starting from scratch as some here would have to. On the other hand I am a little more versed in medical trials, papers and the like. I have been mining the field for about ten years, not covid naturally. So score one point for 'putting a poster in their place, because they do not have the tools at their disposal. But I know the limitations of your data, might want to tone down your cockiness. I would take it up but I have a month of reasonable weather left to get a project built. I would rather get that done that go, 'Na, na, ha, na, na'

Good luck on your project, and I hope you'll look into what I've posted with a genuine curiosity when you can

 

[doublejj]

Sorry to hear that, but I'm not splitting hairs either, 99.9+% recovered sans the sick, the fat, the old, and the freak occasion. We could talk anecdotes all day:

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Look at this animal. This BEAST of a man. Recovered from covid within three days after a treatment using several drugs, including the people dewormer ivermectin. No health issues beforehand. You can find many more oldsters dying, not as many of us old folks recovering. But Ivermectin is changing that.

does your health insurance cover Ivermectin?.....

 

[mooray]

Sorry to hear that, but I'm not splitting hairs either, 99.9+% recovered sans the sick, the fat, the old, and the freak occasion. We could talk anecdotes all day:

View attachment 4978981

Look at this animal. This BEAST of a man. Recovered from covid within three days after a treatment using several drugs, including the people dewormer ivermectin. No health issues beforehand. You can find many more oldsters dying, not as many of us old folks recovering. But Ivermectin is changing that.

Be consistent. Fuck those fat, old, and unhealthy veterans....amirite brother! Fuck old people! Fuck law enforcement and teachers and nurses! Fuck all those people!

VA Daily Covid Admissions Reaches All Time High

As U.S. COVID-19 cases rise, the Department of Veterans Affairs is limiting the number of visitors to nursing homes in an effort to protect residents.

www.aarp.org

 

[doublejj]

Sorry to hear that, but I'm not splitting hairs either, 99.9+% recovered sans the sick, the fat, the old, and the freak occasion. We could talk anecdotes all day:

View attachment 4978981

Look at this animal. This BEAST of a man. Recovered from covid within three days after a treatment using several drugs, including the people dewormer ivermectin. No health issues beforehand. You can find many more oldsters dying, not as many of us old folks recovering. But Ivermectin is changing that.

this Rogan clown doesn't trust modern medical science enough to take the covid vaccine, but he trusts some quack on Qanon to ingest horse dewormer...he's not the brightest bulb in the box is he?

 

[shimbob]

Someone's brain has fermented in a bad way.

 

[FermentFred]

Horseshit. That is my response to your just saying things and pretending like they are true spam death cult troll.


More horseshit. The link showed that people who are vaccinated and have a breakthrough case of the virus that puts them in a hospital have the same levels of virus in their system and are as virulent. That is not the same as 'vaccinated people carry similar viral loads'. And because of this you are wrong. Because vaccinated people are 26x less likely to have a breakthrough case as people who are not vaccinated.

You just keep up the death cult spamming.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/will-you-take-the-vaccine.1036432/post-16516369
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and as I've said, viral load is correlated to transmissibility. 1+1 = you're too dumb to add up a sum And given the unvaxxed with natural immunity are 27x less likely to catch symptomatic covid, than the double vaxxed with no immunity, 6x less likely to catch it all and 8x less likely to be hospitalized at all, I can't see a reason to believe they aren't less likely to be infectious as well. The data suggests natural immunity is the most powerful defense available, and the only people who need the vax are those whose natural immune systems are too weak to overcome it and build their own immunity. Hmm, working with nature is cheaper and more effective than complex man-made solutions....reminds me of why I got into organics

 

[doublejj]

and as I've said, viral load is correlated to transmissibility. 1+1 = you're too dumb to add up a sum And given the unvaxxed with natural immunity are 27x less likely to catch symptomatic covid, than the double vaxxed with no immunity, 6x less likely to catch it all and 8x less likely to be hospitalized at all, I can't see a reason to believe they aren't less likely to be infectious as well. The data suggests natural immunity is the most powerful defense available, and the only people who need the vax are those whose natural immune systems are too weak to overcome it and build their own immunity. Hmm, working with nature is cheaper and more effective than complex man-made solutions....reminds me of why I got into organics

do you think this will keep them from raising your health insurance rate?...

 

[hanimmal]

and as I've said, viral load is correlated to transmissibility. 1+1 = you're too dumb to add up a sum And given the unvaxxed with natural immunity are 27x less likely to catch symptomatic covid, than the double vaxxed with no immunity, 6x less likely to catch it all and 8x less likely to be hospitalized at all, I can't see a reason to believe they aren't less likely to be infectious as well. The data suggests natural immunity is the most powerful defense available, and the only people who need the vax are those whose natural immune systems are too weak to overcome it and build their own immunity. Hmm, working with nature is cheaper and more effective than complex man-made solutions....reminds me of why I got into organics

Oh wow I mean if a death cult troll says it, it must be true.

Double vaccinated with no immunity? So in your lala land is this person a victim of some q anon radicalized nut that was injecting thousands of people with saline because of micro chips or whatever other crazy shit death cult trolls like yourself have sold them?

 

[CunningCanuk]

about the "do it for grandma" argument - the vaccine doesn't stop you from getting sick. The Lancet released a study BEFORE the delta variant showing the best vaccine had a less than 2% absolute risk reduction against catching covid. And now it's MORE infectious.

 

[FermentFred]

this Rogan clown doesn't trust modern medical science enough to take the covid vaccine, but he trusts some quack on Qanon to ingest horse dewormer...he's not the brightest bulb in the box is he?

and yet he's still alive after what amounted to a one day flu....

Horseshit. That is my response to your just saying things and pretending like they are true spam death cult troll.


More horseshit. The link showed that people who are vaccinated and have a breakthrough case of the virus that puts them in a hospital have the same levels of virus in their system and are as virulent. That is not the same as 'vaccinated people carry similar viral loads'. And because of this you are wrong. Because vaccinated people are 26x less likely to have a breakthrough case as people who are not vaccinated.

You just keep up the death cult spamming.

oh yeah.....see below

Actually the unvaxxed with natural immunity are 6-13x less likely to catch covid, are 27x less likely to be symptomatic if they do and 8x less likely to be hospitalized than those who have been double vaxxed. Given most people survive covid with either mild or no symptoms at all it is unethical to demand they become participants in an experimental drug trial that is less effective than known immunity boosting alternatives.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/312637

If you can interpret my links better than me then walk the walk instead of just posing, it's getting embarassing for you my dude.

and yet you never took my up on my offer.....how embarassing

 

[CunningCanuk]

lol typical nazi. Remember how hitler was voted into power?

No. because he wasn’t.

It looks your understanding of history matches your understanding of science.

 

[doublejj]

and yet he's still alive after what amounted to a one day flu....



oh yeah.....see below



and yet you never took my up on my offer.....how embarassing

he looks 1/2 dead to me....

 

[FermentFred]

Oh wow I mean if a death cult troll says it, it must be true.

Double vaccinated with no immunity?

The vaccines do not provide immunity, they reduce the severity of symptoms. The polio vaccine doesn't reduce the severity of polio, it makes you unable to catch or spread polio
It grants you immunity. The chicken pox vaccine doesn't reduce severity of the chicken pox, it grants you immunity. Just because the TV made you feel the covid mrna treatments were immunizations doesn't mean the manufacturers were claiming that.