Afganistan Collapse

smokinrav

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It’s fun to laugh at a bunch of cave dwellers fumbling with high tech equipment but don't forget, these same cave dwellers outlasted two super powers.

The greatest weapon in war is a combatant’s will to win. You could ask the Soviet Union……if they still existed.
Impossible terrain to overcome helps the Afghanis a lot.
 

smokinrav

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What's up everybody, been gone awhile, busyw/ work,my grow ,visiting bedridden old lady, etc.. Lots going on now Delta, Hurricanes, Afghanistan. My take on Afghanistan is how can we (U.S.) expect an entrenched culture and mysterious land to adopt democracy when we are still wrestling with ours after almost 250 years. Heartbroken for the vets who gave their lives or came home physically or mentally or both scarred and the poor families impacted by losses of loved one's or the return of loved ones suffering from the experience. Biden getting out is the right decision and took guts to make the call.ccguns
He had to do it in the first 6 months, knowing the hypocritical backlash from the right will dissipate over the next news cycles before the run-up to 2022 midterms. Now he has time to turn the narrative around, barring mass executions of women and girls, or some such other horror from the Taliban.
 

doublejj

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That's not true. What falls in the boundaries of rape is violating consent.

Are you saying that all people attain the wherewithal to consent at the exact same age?

Are you saying that you oppose violations of consent sometimes and you also are for violations of consent sometimes ? It sounds like you might be, since you think a forcible hierarchy is a good thing.

Next you're going to tell me you're okay with forcibly injecting a young person, if the hierarchy demands it. Does it hurt to hold two different opinions about consent at the same time ?
pleas stop at stop signs rob, i know it is a violation of your free will consent but it's for the safety of us all...
 

PJ Diaz

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Consent doesn't require wherewithal to consent ? So a person in a coma who doesn't say "no" is open game ? Interesting.

Not all people arrive at the physical point of maturity or the mental point of maturity at the same time. Sounds like we agree on that. Is there a magical age limit that NO person has ever crossed and been capable of consenting when the majority of people the same age as them have not ?
Your argument insinuates there is. What is that magical age ?

For instance, there are no 17 year olds capable of making a decision that a law says all persons making that decision MUST be at least 18 ?
I don't think you know what wherewithal means.

As far as maturity, it will depend on what the decision is that they are consenting to. As an example, a person who is not fully completed puberty and been educated about sex and the potential consequences should not be put in the position to contemplate whether or not they should consent to sexual acts, due to their obvious lack of physical maturity and sexual knowledge. You were talking about 12-year olds before, now you are shifting to 17?
 

injinji

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I don't think it is going to hurt Biden in the long run because at the end of the day Americans are happy it's over.
We have short memories. Plus the GOP have to decide which was worse. The fact the airlift looked so haphazard, or the fact it got so many refugees out.
 

Rob Roy

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pleas stop at stop signs rob, i know it is a violation of your free will consent but it's for the safety of us all...
Mischaracterization. I'm a safe driver. I don't own the roads. I use them, therefore when the rightful owners are found I wouldn't mind keeping any agreements I make with them.

Do you own the roads?
 

Rob Roy

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I don't think you know what wherewithal means.

As far as maturity, it will depend on what the decision is that they are consenting to. As an example, a person who is not fully completed puberty and been educated about sex and the potential consequences should not be put in the position to contemplate whether or not they should consent to sexual acts, due to their obvious lack of physical maturity and sexual knowledge. You were talking about 12-year olds before, now you are shifting to 17?
Actually I was talking about Afghanistan, but the pervs here keep wanting to discuss their kiddie lust.

I think I do know what wherewithal means. I think it is not a fixed thing for every person. If it is, tell me which age it arrives for everyone and why. Do you have the wherewithal to address that question?

I'd also like to point out my observations are not the same as endorsements.
 

hanimmal

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btw, ty @Rob Roy for posting the video I think is likely a deep fake video of Paski, because while watching it, on August 25th, Paski clearly lays out what the Republican trolls are trying to pin on Biden that he somehow lied when he said he wanted to get every American out of Afghanistan by the time that the troops pulled out.

When clearly they stated that they were aware that some Americans who were not willing to leave by the pull out date for many reasons.

 

Rob Roy

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btw, ty @Rob Roy for posting the video I think is likely a deep fake video of Paski, because while watching it, on August 25th, Paski clearly lays out what the Republican trolls are trying to pin on Biden that he somehow lied when he said he wanted to get every American out of Afghanistan by the time that the troops pulled out.

When clearly they stated that they were aware that some Americans who were not willing to leave by the pull out date for many reasons.


I'm sure you must be right.

 

Rob Roy

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GIRL. You ignorant pig. You dish out philosophy while these women are considered no more than cattle.
Good for you with your eloquent speech.
I'd like to enjoy your insult a bit more. Would you be kind enough to explain what the fuck you mean and then I can unravel it and point out where your allegation went off the rails? Thanks.
 
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