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Sirhan Sirhan
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StonedGardener
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The 2nd pic reminded me of these old shots...
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Sir Napsalot
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I generally like what you have to say, but not this
Unclebaldrick
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CunningCanuk
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Sirhan Sirhan has been incarcerated for over 50 years. He’s expressed remorse for his crime and Robert Kennedy’s children have advocated for his parole.
What more do you want?
What more do you want?
hanimmal
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Those kids to not be the ones pushing anti-vcxx conspiracy theories?
CunningCanuk
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I don’t know, what difference does it make? Do you believe if someone is wrong on one issue they’re wrong on all issues?
This thread is about Sirhan Sirhan, not vaccines. Some of Robert Kennedy’s children, and his wife, believe the man that murdered him should be paroled after 50 years of incarceration. They believe he’s paid his debt to society and I agree with them.
StonedGardener
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Don't know, just knew that they were friends. Is this the classic, " Let no good deed go unpunished" ?
hanimmal
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I apologize, I don't really have a dog in this fight outside of not trust someone who is pushing propaganda on a massive scale and also something is rattling around in the back of my brain about him whipping this into some kind of conspiracy theory that he wasn't the one that killed RFK.
The 6 family members that are worked up about it coupled with this, put me in the fuck this guy camp. But not by a lot. I just hope it doesn't turn into some online conspiracy bullshit that gets used to further radicalize idiots willing to believe them.
CunningCanuk
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Sirhan Sirhan has expressed regret and remorse for the murder so I don’t think it’s a conspiracy theory thing that someone else killed him. It’s simply a case where Robert Kennedy’s children have forgiven him and believe he is no longer a threat to society.
hanimmal
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Again no dog in this fight, but figured you/someone might be interested.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/05/26/who-killed-bobby-kennedy-his-son-rfk-jr-doesnt-believe-it-was-sirhan-sirhan/
Article is a whole lot longer than I figured so not posting the entire thing.LOS ANGELES — Just before Christmas, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. pulled up to the massive Richard J. Donovan Correctional Facility, a California state prison complex in the desert outside San Diego that holds nearly 4,000 inmates. Kennedy was there to visit Sirhan B. Sirhan, the man convicted of killing his father, Sen. Robert F. Kennedy, nearly 50 years ago.
While his wife, the actress Cheryl Hines, waited in the car, Kennedy met with Sirhan for three hours, he revealed to The Washington Post last week. It was the culmination of months of research by Kennedy into the assassination, including speaking with witnesses and reading the autopsy and police reports.
“I got to a place where I had to see Sirhan,” Kennedy said. He would not discuss the specifics of their conversation. But when it was over, Kennedy had joined those who believe there was a second gunman, and that it was not Sirhan who killed his father.
“I went there because I was curious and disturbed by what I had seen in the evidence,” said Kennedy, an environmental lawyer and the third oldest of his father’s 11 children. “I was disturbed that the wrong person might have been convicted of killing my father. My father was the chief law enforcement officer in this country. I think it would have disturbed him if somebody was put in jail for a crime they didn’t commit.”
Kennedy, 64, said he doesn’t know if his involvement in the case will change anything. But he now supports the call for a reinvestigation of the assassination — which is led by Paul Schrade, who also was shot in the head as he walked behind Kennedy in the pantry of the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles but survived.
Did L.A. police and prosecutors bungle the Bobby Kennedy assassination?
His sister. former Maryland lieutenant governor Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, is now expressing doubts, too. “Bobby makes a compelling case,” she told The Post. “I think [the investigation] should be reopened.”
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was just 14 when he lost his father. Even now, people tell him how much Bobby Kennedy meant to them.
RFK’s death — five years after his brother, President John F. Kennedy, was gunned down in Dallas and two months after civil rights leader the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was killed in Memphis — devastated a country already beset by chaos.
In 1968, the Vietnam War raged, American cities had erupted in riots after MLK’s assassination and tensions between war protesters and supporters were growing uglier. Robert F. Kennedy’s newly launched presidential bid had raised hopes that the New York Democrat and former attorney general could somehow unite a divided nation. The gunshots fired that June night changed all that.
Though Sirhan admitted at his trial in 1969 that he shot Kennedy, he claimed from the start that he had no memory of doing so. And midway through Sirhan’s trial, prosecutors provided his lawyers with an autopsy report that launched five decades of controversy: Kennedy was shot at point-blank range from behind, including a fatal shot behind his ear. But Sirhan, a 24-year-old Palestinian immigrant, was standing in front of him.
Was there a second gunman? The debate rages to this day.
But the legal system has not entertained doubts. A jury convicted Sirhan of first-degree murder and sentenced him to death in 1969, which was commuted to a life term in 1972. Sirhan’s appeals have been rejected at every level, as recently as 2016, even with the courts considering new evidence that has emerged over the years that as many as 13 shots were fired — Sirhan’s gun held only eight bullets — and that Sirhan may have been subjected to coercive hypnosis, in a real-life version of “The Manchurian Candidate.”
His case is closed. His lawyers are now launching a long-shot bid to have the Inter-American Court of Human Rights hold an evidentiary hearing, while Schrade is hoping for a group such as the Innocence Project to take on the case. A spokesman for the Innocence Project said that the organization does not discuss cases at the consideration stage.
captainmorgan
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Thought I heard that only two Kennedy's have forgiven him, the rest would like him to die in prison.
CunningCanuk
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Yes. Just 2 have.
CunningCanuk
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I’ll read it, thanks. I’ve read about some theories that involved the CIA, among other things.
topcat
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From what I remember, he doesn't remember, but he accepts it, because everyone tells him that.
Generally a bad sign of accountability.
CunningCanuk
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Maybe it was a Manchurian candidate thing as it was looking like Kennedy would get the nomination. I just don’t hold much stock in conspiracy theories. Hell, I still believe LHO shot JFK.
“I don’t remember doing it” has been used as a defence many times.
“I don’t remember doing it” has been used as a defence many times.
Yeah I don't know what his actual stance is. If it's, "I thought about it a lot, I had reasons for it, I had the gun for it, I planned it, I wanted it, I went to do it, I just don't remember the moment it specifically happened", then I suppose I could buy that from a psychological perspective.
topcat
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I haven't thought about it in a long time. I do remember it happening, the busboy, Rafer Johnson, Rosie Grier, and all. I do remember being sick about it, as I was just entering the time when one becomes aware of the political theater. It makes me ill to remember what might have been.
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