Sirhan Sirhan

[Unclebaldrick]

Again no dog in this fight, but figured you/someone might be interested.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/05/26/who-killed-bobby-kennedy-his-son-rfk-jr-doesnt-believe-it-was-sirhan-sirhan/
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Article is a whole lot longer than I figured so not posting the entire thing.

RFK Jr is also one of the leading anti-vaxxers. So there's that.

I listened to a decent podcast on the assassination. It portrayed Sirhan as a manchurian candidate type zombie for all but the last episode. But in the last episode, Sirhan let slip that the whole thing was a fabrication.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

I haven't thought about it in a long time. I do remember it happening, the busboy, Rafer Johnson, Rosie Greer, and all. I do remember being sick about it, as I was just entering the time when one becomes aware of the political theater. It makes me ill to remember what might have been.

Grier, dammit. The co-star of "The Thing With Two Heads" deserves to have his name spelled right. (Seriously, you have to see that movie)

 

[topcat]

Grier, dammit. The co-star of "The Thing With Two Heads" deserves to have his name spelled right. (Seriously, you have to see that movie)

Is that it?
Edit; I never saw the movie because from the beginning it eliminated the suspension of belief required with terror/horror films. Funny, but not much.

 

[hanimmal]

Grier, dammit. The co-star of "The Thing With Two Heads" deserves to have his name spelled right. (Seriously, you have to see that movie)

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Is that it?
Edit; I never saw the movie because from the beginning it eliminated the suspension of belief required with terror/horror films. Funny, but not much.

Yeah, it's not a terror film really. It tried to be but now it's just a comedy. Still, it sells it's message of 'racism is bullshit'.

Ok, it is not a good film. MST3K worthy in its badness. I have not seen it since I was a kid but the message stayed with me.

If Ebert were alive today, he would probably give it another star. That would make 2 stars.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Sorry for the distraction.

Fuck Sirhan.

 

[Rob Roy]

Many of todays "liberals" (communists) would not like either JFK or RFK.
They would help coverup a Teddy Kennedy drowning scandal with Hunter Biden laptop swiftness though.

Oh, Sirhan Sirhan? Needs more middle name.

 

[zeddd]

I generally like what you have to say, but not this

Aw she knows it’s just my acerbic English humour but you’re right it’s not cricket to talk about fucking in dog cages which was exactly my point with yoda himself.

 

[zeddd]

Maybe it was a Manchurian candidate thing as it was looking like Kennedy would get the nomination. I just don’t hold much stock in conspiracy theories. Hell, I still believe LHO shot JFK.

“I don’t remember doing it” has been used as a defence many times.

Perhaps he had a homicidal psychotic episode and killed someone important because “palestine”.

 

[schuylaar]

Sirhan Sirhan has been incarcerated for over 50 years. He’s expressed remorse for his crime and Robert Kennedy’s children have advocated for his parole.

What more do you want?

so what you're saying is that RFK's life was worth 50 years? what about all the years his family missed; the daughter, Rory, who he never met?

not everyone in the family is on board with this especially, Ethel and half her children.

if someone were to kill your child for whatever reason but let's say it's her choice of identity..would you feel same?

Sirhan Sirhan escaped death- that was his mulligan- now fvcking enjoy it.

 

[CunningCanuk]

Perhaps he had a homicidal psychotic episode and killed someone important because “palestine”.

I didn’t make any allusions to that so I’m not sure why you directed this towards me.

I don’t know what his motivation was, but he was definitely unstable at the time. I’ve read some information about possible conspiracy theories and didn’t buy it.

 

[CunningCanuk]

so what you're saying is that RFK's life was worth 50 years?

Only an idiot or a troll would get that out of what I tsaid. I’ll give you the benefit and just assume you’re trolling.

what about all the years his family missed; the daughter, Rory, who he never met?

It’s very sad, I agree. It’s something that all families that are victims of murder have to endure. How many people convicted of murder are incarcerated for over 50 years?

not everyone in the family is on board with this especially, Ethel and half her children.

Ethel said she forgave him though.

Sirhan Sirhan escaped death- that was his mulligan- now fvcking enjoy it.

I don’t believe in capital punishment. I guess you do.

 

[schuylaar]

Only an idiot or a troll would get that out of what I tsaid. I’ll give you the benefit and just assume you’re trolling.




It’s very sad, I agree. It’s something that all families that are victims of murder have to endure. How many people convicted of murder are incarcerated for over 50 years?


Ethel said she forgave him though.


I don’t believe in capital punishment. I guess you do.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1431438539259097090

Ethel Kennedy Says Robert F. Kennedy's Assassin Should Not Be Released From Prison

RFK's widow released a statement, objecting to Sirhan Sirhan's parole.

www.townandcountrymag.com

someone who is guilty 100% went from Death Sentence to 30 years to life because they tried to parole him 15 times before starting around 2000.

Sirhan Sirhan should at least be doing life NO parole.

 

[CunningCanuk]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1431438539259097090

Ethel Kennedy Says Robert F. Kennedy's Assassin Should Not Be Released From Prison

RFK's widow released a statement, objecting to Sirhan Sirhan's parole.

www.townandcountrymag.com

I believe people can change and that those capable of committing crimes like murder, can be rehabilitated.

Do you know who else felt that way? Robert Francis Kennedy.

 

[mooray]

Theoretically true, but rehabilitated in the US prison system? The odds are certainly stacked against them. Usually you come out much worse.

 

[CunningCanuk]

Theoretically true, but rehabilitated in the US prison system? The odds are certainly stacked against them. Usually you come out much worse.

That’s a valid point.

He’s received extensive and thorough psychological analysis so he wouldn’t be considered for parole if he was a threat

If you believe Sirhan Sirhan’s remorse is genuine and he’s giving indication of being no threat to society, shouldn’t 50 years be enough?

 

[zeddd]

That’s a valid point.

He’s received extensive and thorough psychological analysis so he wouldn’t be considered for parole if he was a threat

If you believe Sirhan Sirhan’s remorse is genuine and he’s giving indication of being no threat to society, shouldn’t 50 years be enough?

He’s a terrorist, it’s permissible for him to lie

 

[CatHedral]

That’s a valid point.

He’s received extensive and thorough psychological analysis so he wouldn’t be considered for parole if he was a threat

If you believe Sirhan Sirhan’s remorse is genuine and he’s giving indication of being no threat to society, shouldn’t 50 years be enough?

It boils down to this for me: why would I trust him or his declarations?

 

[zeddd]

I didn’t make any allusions to that so I’m not sure why you directed this towards me.

I don’t know what his motivation was, but he was definitely unstable at the time. I’ve read some information about possible conspiracy theories and didn’t buy it.

My post was in response to your “maybe” with a “perhaps” the point being; let’s not speculate

 

[mooray]

That’s a valid point.

He’s received extensive and thorough psychological analysis so he wouldn’t be considered for parole if he was a threat

If you believe Sirhan Sirhan’s remorse is genuine and he’s giving indication of being no threat to society, shouldn’t 50 years be enough?

While I find your sympathy/empathy admirable, I'm more on the other end of the spectrum. Unfortunately, when you murder someone, nothing can ever be made right. There is no such thing as paying your debt to society with that crime. He should have been euthanized decades ago, imo.