Tent organization

Having trouble getting organized in the grow tent with cords and stuff all over the place. Also the bending down is doing a number on my already fragile body.
I'd love to see pics of your set up and solutions you've found to be more organized and make things easier.
Thanks!
 

PopAndSonGrows

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I have a shot lower back, i find kneeling to work best for me. Sitting on a bucket also helps. I would say get dollies for your plants so you can wheel them around in and out of the tent as needed.

As far as cords and power, one thing that's always weirded me out is when people put a power strip inside the tent, i think that's a bad idea mostly because of moisture. Put a power strip outside the tent, and use household extension cords for items whose cords dont reach. I just tuck cords along the floor tray, i never ziptie anything in case it needs to be moved.
 

xtsho

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I've had a power strip in my tent for years. I have it zip tied to one of the overhead bars because It's not going to be moved. I plug my exhaust fan into it and anything else inside the tent that needs power. My light is plugged directly into a timer that's plugged into an outlet.

I don't know how much moisture some are having in their tent but I'd work on dealing with that before using a bunch of extension cords. You shouldn't have enough moisture to where it's going to compromise a power strip. Extension cords should be avoided if possible.

Two cords come out of the tent and get plugged directly into a 15 amp outlet. One cord is for a 600 watt HID the other is for the power strip zip tied to the top of the tent. The power strip I use is a 15 amp 4 plug heavy duty one with a 12 ft cord. You don't want to use a cheap $6.99 power cord. Get a good one.


 

LeastExpectedGrower

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I used lots of zip-ties to keep cable runs out of the way and a bit neater. Did power drops to 3 out of 4 of the corners; two with 3-plug ends, one with the power strip being the one for lights on a timer. The smaller fans each plug into one of the un-timed drops. Their power cords are neatly routed and behind the edges of the 'drip pan.'

Intake fan on the lower left, with the exhaust going out upper right. There are a few errant shorties in the mix, but not many.

Two sensors hanging close to dead center at canopy height, one is the wifi/bluetooth T/RH meter, the other goes to the T6 fan. Both fan controllers rout outside the tent. Some of the hanging mess will go away once I get rid of my cheapo side lights and get some quantums to either side. IMG_1928.JPG
 

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lusidghost

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I have a shot lower back, i find kneeling to work best for me. Sitting on a bucket also helps. I would say get dollies for your plants so you can wheel them around in and out of the tent as needed.

As far as cords and power, one thing that's always weirded me out is when people put a power strip inside the tent, i think that's a bad idea mostly because of moisture. Put a power strip outside the tent, and use household extension cords for items whose cords dont reach. I just tuck cords along the floor tray, i never ziptie anything in case it needs to be moved.
What kind of moisture are we talking here? Keep all electric above the head, and use electrical tape to seal off connected plugs for anything that could possibly get wet. Like a water / air pump or a low fan.
 

Flatrate

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When I set mine up I thought things out and got an electrician in and ran dedicated 20 amps to each of my tents and place conduit and boxes along the side of each tent. That way all I had to do is feed the wires out the tent ports.

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It allows me to keep things neat and powered.

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Smallbud

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I think I'm similar, tie wire cords out of way, keep everything minimal and tidy. Barely have to do much work in there so no problems for my back.
 

ComputerSaysNo

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You shouldn't have enough moisture to where it's going to compromise a power strip.
I would even say that is completely impossible. Even 100% humidity would not lead to electrical shortages or anything. If anything, excessive moisture could shorten the lifetime of electronics, but that's about it. With the RH levels in a grow tent (<= 60%) there is absolutely nothing to worry about.

Keep all electric above the head,
Or rather, above the "water line", if there is one. Definitely not on the floor.

and use electrical tape to seal off connected plugs for anything that could possibly get wet.
That would not help if the sockets or connections actually got wet or drowned. Quite impossible to create a water tight seal with electrical tape around plugs.

One good measure is to have an RCD (residual current device) in the circuit that provides the tent with power. The RCD will make it impossible for you to get electrocuted. RCDs are recommended for kitchens and bath rooms especially. RCDs are also available to put between a wall plug and consumer, does not have to be installed in your breaker box.
 

xtsho

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I would even say that is completely impossible. Even 100% humidity would not lead to electrical shortages or anything. If anything, excessive moisture could shorten the lifetime of electronics, but that's about it. With the RH levels in a grow tent (<= 60%) there is absolutely nothing to worry about.


Or rather, above the "water line", if there is one. Definitely not on the floor.


That would not help if the sockets or connections actually got wet or drowned. Quite impossible to create a water tight seal with electrical tape around plugs.

One good measure is to have an RCD (residual current device) in the circuit that provides the tent with power. The RCD will make it impossible for you to get electrocuted. RCDs are recommended for kitchens and bath rooms especially. RCDs are also available to put between a wall plug and consumer, does not have to be installed in your breaker box.
I don't have an RCD but the socket is GFCI (ground-fault circuit interrupter) which is basically the same thing as RCD. You must be in the UK.
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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I would even say that is completely impossible. Even 100% humidity would not lead to electrical shortages or anything. If anything, excessive moisture could shorten the lifetime of electronics, but that's about it. With the RH levels in a grow tent (<= 60%) there is absolutely nothing to worry about.

Or rather, above the "water line", if there is one. Definitely not on the floor.
That would not help if the sockets or connections actually got wet or drowned. Quite impossible to create a water tight seal with electrical tape around plugs.

One good measure is to have an RCD (residual current device) in the circuit that provides the tent with power. The RCD will make it impossible for you to get electrocuted. RCDs are recommended for kitchens and bath rooms especially. RCDs are also available to put between a wall plug and consumer, does not have to be installed in your breaker box.
Yeah, humidity, not an issue. RH in my living space (windows open, no central AC) is 75% right now, which is higher than my grow tent has been. Some days we can be up in the 90% range just due to weather during the spring/summer/fall without any issues with powerstrips. I've played as a musician on many outdoor festival stages at 100% humidity (yep, even covered shows in the rain) with high-draw gear and strips or drops without problem as well (my longtime stage setup features a 3000w amp with it's own 20A breaker built in).

I'd be more concerned with any cords/connections on the floor of your tent where errant over-water might cause a problem. The other thing is that high-draw fixtures (some lights and/or AC/Dehumid.) should have heavy duty extensions if you need 'em. Don't want to melt a basic home-extension cord when you're not looking.

I'm running all my power off of a GFI outlet and any strips also have GFI or breakers on them, and they're all up off the ground.
 

ComputerSaysNo

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You must be in the UK.
Well, it says "From EU". So, not UK :D
I'm in Germany and had to look up how the thingy is called in English. In German the name for the gadget translates to "missing current protection".

I like "ground fault circuit interruptor", it precisely describes what the thing does without being too technical. "Missing current protection" is more accurate but a little anal in its technicality. Germans.

OK: Leakage Current Detection Interrupter is pretty much what we call it.

The article mentions that it's called GFI in the states. Didn't read far enough.
 
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xtsho

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Well, it says "From EU". So, not UK :D
I'm in Germany and had to look up how the thingy is called in English. In German the name for the gadget translates to "missing current protection".

I like "ground fault circuit interruptor", it precisely describes what the thing does without being too technical. "Missing current protection" is more accurate but a little anal in its technicality. Germans.
It's built into the outlets here in the US. They're not required everywhere but they are required by code for most receptacles.

 

ComputerSaysNo

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They're not required everywhere but they are required by code for most receptacles.
In Germany they have been required (by code) in the breaker box for quite a while now, but only for new installations. Code doesn't require you to retrofit them.

I like that you have them in the wall sockets; also doubles for an emergency "off-switch".
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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In Germany they have been required (by code) in the breaker box for quite a while now, but only for new installations. Code doesn't require you to retrofit them.

I like that you have them in the wall sockets; also doubles for an emergency "off-switch".
I have a couple breakers with GFI and a few without. They're generally required here in places where there's some chance of water contact. Near the kitchen sink, in bathrooms near the sinks/tub and in some basement and garage areas. All my outside outlets are not only covered but also have GFIs.
 

ComputerSaysNo

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We've had some extensions done a while ago in my mother's house, and the electrician just used breakers with GFI included. Not even much more expensive than regular breakers. I then asked him to just retrofit all the breakers while he was at it. Not worth taking the risk when it only costs a couple of bucks to get it done and over with that way.
 

PopAndSonGrows

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What kind of moisture are we talking here? Keep all electric above the head, and use electrical tape to seal off connected plugs for anything that could possibly get wet. Like a water / air pump or a low fan.
Just anything above "ambient room". I've also had issues where i fell asleep before turning off a humidifier and tent peaked at 90%, lol, hasn't happened in a while but I'm a smoker, shit happens, i forget, lol. It's just my preference.
 

lusidghost

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That would not help if the sockets or connections actually got wet or drowned. Quite impossible to create a water tight seal with electrical tape around plugs.

One good measure is to have an RCD (residual current device) in the circuit that provides the tent with power. The RCD will make it impossible for you to get electrocuted. RCDs are recommended for kitchens and bath rooms especially. RCDs are also available to put between a wall plug and consumer, does not have to be installed in your breaker box.
I meant whatever plugged into an extension cord. If you have a fan sitting on the floor or a water pump with short cord, using an extension cord and wrapping the connection in electrical tape will definitely help to prevent issues. I'm not talking submerging it, although if wrapped well enough you could probably temporarily submerge it for whatever stupid reason. I was once an actual electrician.
 
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