Humboldt Seed Company (HSC) Thread

Neoangelo147

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Yeesh, I'm surprised they haven't pulled squirt at this point if it's having herm problems this consistently. It's a BBM x Tangie Bx3 so I can only assume they Tangie they backcrossed it with had issues. I've grown a decent amount of BBM and a few BBM crosses (some Hi-biscus and an apple blossom) without hitting a herm so far but I guess it's something to watch for
I have their Blueberry Muffin and Jelly Rancher going but those are from clones I picked up from DHN. BBM and JR are doing good. No issues at all.

I took clones of the Squirt before it went into flower but tossed them all today. I also let all the Garlic Budder cuts I had go too. I see a lot of breeders pushing out fem beans for sale and a lot of stories of growers getting herms. I think I’m sticking with either picking up clones local or running regular seeds from now on.
 

GlassJoe

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I have their Blueberry Muffin and Jelly Rancher going but those are from clones I picked up from DHN. BBM and JR are doing good. No issues at all.

I took clones of the Squirt before it went into flower but tossed them all today. I also let all the Garlic Budder cuts I had go too. I see a lot of breeders pushing out fem beans for sale and a lot of stories of growers getting herms. I think I’m sticking with either picking up clones local or running regular seeds from now on.
I dunno, I've only run their stuff from fem seed so far. My understanding is that if plants herm, it's due to a genetic predisposition of one of the parents to herm; plants from regs can still herm. Feminized seeds are feminized because ethylene is what prevents male flowering parts from forming. When you inhibit ethylene production (usually with a silver containing spray like STS/CS) the parts form, but that's not a heritable trait. The thing that makes them feminized is that the pollen they produce can't have a male sex chromosome because female plants only have female sex chromosomes (XX)

If you spray florel on a male plant (which turns into ethylene, you can get it to make female flowering parts, and it can be pollinated by another male to produce seeds. This is useless, though, because the seeds will include more males, but also females and YY duds.
 

Palomar

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My BMuffin finished first outdoors … loud and tasty. Just tried a branch that broke a while ago so I had an early taste. Topped and was in small pot outdoors. Tons of tops and finished real quick, dominated the scent the last few weeks, bright sweet blueberry. This one was a clone. The Diesel was leaf heavy making it prone to mold / moisture, but saved most of her.

respect,
pal
 

Neoangelo147

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I dunno, I've only run their stuff from fem seed so far. My understanding is that if plants herm, it's due to a genetic predisposition of one of the parents to herm; plants from regs can still herm. Feminized seeds are feminized because ethylene is what prevents male flowering parts from forming. When you inhibit ethylene production (usually with a silver containing spray like STS/CS) the parts form, but that's not a heritable trait. The thing that makes them feminized is that the pollen they produce can't have a male sex chromosome because female plants only have female sex chromosomes (XX)

If you spray florel on a male plant (which turns into ethylene, you can get it to make female flowering parts, and it can be pollinated by another male to produce seeds. This is useless, though, because the seeds will include more males, but also females and YY duds.
That’s some good info and I’m definitely not knocking HSC. They have some good strains they have produced.

From 10 years of growing I have yet to find a herm from a regular pack of seeds. Maybe it’s just luck with the regs but I have had a fair amount of fems go herm on me though. I’ve noticed this more with the recent trend of fem seeds.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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That’s some good info and I’m definitely not knocking HSC. They have some good strains they have produced.

From 10 years of growing I have yet to find a herm from a regular pack of seeds. Maybe it’s just luck with the regs but I have had a fair amount of fems go herm on me though. I’ve noticed this more with the recent trend of fem seeds.
Its just luck, lol.

There literally is no difference between fem and reg beans as far as chance of herms. Its all about the parent plants genetics.

I've had just as much herm incidents with fem as I have regs after hundreds of seeds.
 

GlassJoe

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Its just luck, lol.

There literally is no difference between fem and reg beans as far as chance of herms. Its all about the parent plants genetics.

I've had just as much herm incidents with fem as I have regs after hundreds of seeds.
The only thing I can think of is that if a female plant already has tendencies towards herming, it might be obscured by treatment to induce pollen sac formation just because it could be hard to tell what caused it?

But in general, treating a plant that does not carry a tendency to herm, and pollinating another plant without a tendency to herm with the produced pollen, will create feminized seeds without a tendency to herm. If something wants to herm, it's because one of the parents carried that trait.

If you took a plant with herm tendencies and pollinated it with male pollen, it should produce regular seeds, some of which will have a predisposition to herm.
 

GlassJoe

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Currently growing some Blueberry Muffins. Humboldt says flower time is 45 to 50 days. Love to have impute from anyone who has grown the strain before!
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My experience is that it's probably closer to 50-55 but it's definitely an early finisher and it puts on color later in the cycle. This is a picture I posted earlier of my outdoor one on the 11th of September, which was about 50 days from the onset of flowering. I chopped around the 18th, so 57 days, but I could have cut earlier I just waited for the weekend because of work. It was too hot this summer for it to put on color but I had some really colorful stuff last winter indoors when it was cooler (second/third pictures)

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farmingfisherman

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My experience is that it's probably closer to 50-55 but it's definitely an early finisher and it puts on color later in the cycle. This is a picture I posted earlier of my outdoor one on the 11th of September, which was about 50 days from the onset of flowering. I chopped around the 18th, so 57 days, but I could have cut earlier I just waited for the weekend because of work. It was too hot this summer for it to put on color but I had some really colorful stuff last winter indoors when it was cooler (second/third pictures)

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Thanks for sharing those. Yeah the color must come on really late cause mine as you can see are still pretty green in comparison. They are in a hoop so I'm thinking the warmer temps also have something to do with the color. We are supposed to have cooler weather arriving so with that maybe I'll see some color change happening. You do anything special in the final weeks to finish those?
 

GlassJoe

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Thanks for sharing those. Yeah the color must come on really late cause mine as you can see are still pretty green in comparison. They are in a hoop so I'm thinking the warmer temps also have something to do with the color. We are supposed to have cooler weather arriving so with that maybe I'll see some color change happening. You do anything special in the final weeks to finish those?
Nope, I just watered. Not because of flushing or anything but because they weren't deficient in any nutes and they would be harvested before any deficiency arose. I fed normally up until the last week or so but if I saw deficiencies I would have kept feeding until harvest.
 

GlassJoe

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Trimming my last girl of the season; an Apple Blossom. She’s been an absolute beast, easily one of my largest, most vigorous plants, stacked up nicely with really dense buds. Smells sweet and floral, just like the name.
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Here she is at the beginning of July (she's the tiny one in front)
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First week of August:
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farmingfisherman

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Snapped some pictures of my Blueberry Muffins. Approximately day 40 of flower. First two picks were taken on the 18th of Aug so that is what I base 40 days on. Plants are as organic as I could be with them. Pest issue resulted in a pretty extreme haircut for them over the weekend. Hoping they didn't suffer to much stress from the experience. Fingers crossed with the rain and cooler temps we are experiencing some color may start to appear.

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GlassJoe

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Snapped some pictures of my Blueberry Muffins. Approximately day 40 of flower. First two picks were taken on the 18th of Aug so that is what I base 40 days on. Plants are as organic as I could be with them. Pest issue resulted in a pretty extreme haircut for them over the weekend. Hoping they didn't suffer to much stress from the experience. Fingers crossed with the rain and cooler temps we are experiencing some color may start to appear.

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Looks pretty good! Like I said, mine didn't put on much purple in the late summer even though the plant I cut it off of put on a decent amount of purple under light dep in the spring. Finishing times will vary, so trust your loupe/magnifying glass/camera to help you make the decision when they seem like they've stopped bulking.
 

resinhead

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My two bb muff… getting closer.
I sampled a branch of the greener pheno, and the taste is insane. Tastes not real. Like blueberry muffins, but more so like the can of blueberries that’s in the box of muffins.
Im excited because the purple pheno has an even stronger smell of fresh cooked muffs.

Greener pheno is purple leaves, purple bud pheno has green leaves. Purple bud one looks like “koz cut” offended on strainly for $500
 

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bgc2020

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What are the effects for Blueberry Muffin? It is an indica but HSC states “smoke is energizing” ?
 
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