Boatguy
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Really? How much did you typically get per plant prior?
Would you defoliate these?
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Absolutely
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lusidghost
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I learned from grow communities, family & friends, and a life long interest in plants in general. Not by reading scientific journals. Like 99.9% of humans since cultivation became a thing. I'm not anti-science by any means, but I'm not waiting for the green light on all of my techniques by some nerds in a lab.
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budman111
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went from 5oz to about 7-8oz per plant
cherrybobeddie
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Pre harvest pruning and/or leaf removal is a much used practice when growing grapes, peaches, nectarines and apples. It is done to open up the trees and expose the inner fruit to the sunlight thereby increasing size and color. It can be used in grapes to increase sugar and/or pump up the size of the bunches.
Cotyledon420
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No you been using the wrong led sir we went over this lol
bk78
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Oh yeah. Any pics of your grows with LED?
Cotyledon420
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blueberrymilkshake
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Bout a pound
bk78
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I’d quit growing and just buy it if that was the case
xtsho
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You apparently think you know what photosynthesis is but if you're saying that removing leaves is beneficial to that process then you obviously don't understand photosynthesis.
bk78
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He’s a commercial grower bro, sit back and learn from a pro.
blueberrymilkshake
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Boatguy
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Not entirely true as far as peaches and apples. Spring pruning is actually done to reduce the amount of fruit, so they have more larger ones, instead of alot of small fruit. The added light from the pruning does help the inside fruit ripen faster, but not any larger.
cherrybobeddie
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Apples are chemically thined at the flower stage so they will have a return bloom. If you wait until they are set then they will go into alternate bearing. The crop load of peach and grape is balanced by correct dormant pruning.
JohnnyGanjaSeeds
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This is dependent upon which variety you are talking about. Not all varieties are biennial.
cherrybobeddie
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It's a Honeycrisp world.
Star Dog
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I can't comment on the weight but on the twice I've tried defoliating the plants haven't stretched near as much.
It's not difficult to see the difference and I wasn't too harsh 2,3 big leafs from the top of each branch, it's not clones so I can't be certain, the one other time was clones but there were other variables however I'm fairly sure it has some effect on the stretch phase.
It's not difficult to see the difference and I wasn't too harsh 2,3 big leafs from the top of each branch, it's not clones so I can't be certain, the one other time was clones but there were other variables however I'm fairly sure it has some effect on the stretch phase.
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There is an excellent podcast on defoliation by Rasta Jeff from Irie Seeds. I recommend a listen.
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I used to remove the bottom 1/3 of plant material on each of my plants, and not do anything else. I was getting on average about 68 oz from 24 plants. Now I lolipop each plant and do a few thorough defoliations and am averaging over 100 oz. There's a lot of advantages and very few disadvantages IMO. But it has to be done correctly, at the right times and the correct amount of leaves to be removed. It takes some practice to get it right.
Ethos Genetics also has an excellent article on their website detailing how they go about it. Most large commercial growers do defoliate, and that alone should tell you something. Below is my current thread here on RIU, and I detail with pic's a lot of my defoliation thru the grow up to this point.
#482 Defoliating
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I used to remove the bottom 1/3 of plant material on each of my plants, and not do anything else. I was getting on average about 68 oz from 24 plants. Now I lolipop each plant and do a few thorough defoliations and am averaging over 100 oz. There's a lot of advantages and very few disadvantages IMO. But it has to be done correctly, at the right times and the correct amount of leaves to be removed. It takes some practice to get it right.
Ethos Genetics also has an excellent article on their website detailing how they go about it. Most large commercial growers do defoliate, and that alone should tell you something. Below is my current thread here on RIU, and I detail with pic's a lot of my defoliation thru the grow up to this point.
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Orange Gasm Part 1 can be found over at the farm, it currently has over 46,000 views and it's been locked for over a month. It was my first venture into LED's, after 30+ years of HPS growing. I spent $2800 on the 2 gavita's, more on a whim to reduce summer heat in the grow room. Little did I...
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