What lab do you use? I think that would be useful information too. Labs, links and prices.
HpLVd, information, Vendors, Testing and Reviews
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Tangerine_
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Ok ok but are YOU menopausal! I think I'm still winning!
Herb & Suds
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Yuck
I grow in rooms
Maybe tiny tents is the answer
I met a guy on the internet who said all tents cause Septoria Leaf Spot
Auntie Janes Nursery
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I use Dark Heart Lab. Costs 25 a test. I don't have a link but I reach out to them email. Lab@darkheartnursery.com
Just reach out to them and they will give you an excel request form. Very easy. Does have some personal data but they seem to be very reliable and confidential.
Side note, my favorite way to ship samples is by using one of the small USPS vhs priority boxes to hold the samples and protect them and slipping that into a priority express bubble envelope. Only $27 for overnight service.
And no I do not work for Darkheart or USPS
Herb & Suds
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Not that there is anything wrong with thatAnd no I do not work for Darkheart or USPS
Auntie Janes Nursery
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I am an avid tent grower. Tents all over. Limited by electricity more so than space so I can double up 12/12 in a room by having two tents. I have decked out rooms before but for some reason I feel more secure with tents.
Auntie Janes Nursery
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Definitely not. One is an amazing company in the industry and the other has amazing benefits. Unfortunately I became an accountant :/Not that there is anything wrong with that
I grow in bothYuck
I grow in rooms
Maybe tiny tents is the answer
I met a guy on the internet who said all tents cause Septoria Leaf Spot
Haven't had Septoria yet but managed to get dudding off and Mosaic. I've divided my veg room up with tents. That way in a pinch I have some flexibility.
Tangerine_
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I've only ever experience leaf septoria outside but if a guy on the internet said it, it must be the tentsYuck
I grow in rooms
Maybe tiny tents is the answer
I met a guy on the internet who said all tents cause Septoria Leaf Spot
Definitely pre.
Some nights I wake up like this...
Herb & Suds
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I was concerned the sarcasm was to subtle LOLI've only ever experience leaf septoria outside but if a guy on the internet said it, it must be the tents
Definitely pre.
Some nights I wake up like this...
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Thanks, and thanks for the detail. Oh you're an accountant! It all makes sense now. The most organized orthopedic surgeon I knew was a CPA before med school. He was great about knowing just what details to include, just like you didI use Dark Heart Lab. Costs 25 a test. I don't have a link but I reach out to them email. Lab@darkheartnursery.com
Just reach out to them and they will give you an excel request form. Very easy. Does have some personal data but they seem to be very reliable and confidential.
Side note, my favorite way to ship samples is by using one of the small USPS vhs priority boxes to hold the samples and protect them and slipping that into a priority express bubble envelope. Only $27 for overnight service.
And no I do not work for Darkheart or USPS
Nah, you were spot on as usual (pun intended)
Is Dark Heart shady?
Sqwee
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In my opinion yes, I won't touch anything that came from them with a 10 foot pole.
They're the ones responsible for spreading this virus and now they're making a killing off testing while people fear monger on grow forums.
After 200,000 test they determined 90% of California facilities are infected with HpLVD.
200k test, $25 per test, just a quick 5 mil testing facilities in a single state for a virus they spread.
xtsho
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Why not just cull any strains that are supposedly testing positive for this and stop growing the seeds? There are literally thousands of strains out there. Saving one is not worth spreading this if it's as bad and spreading as fast as some claim.
And according to this article that was posted in a previous thread testing is not reliable.
"An issue with large mother plants is that separate parts of a large plant can test positive and negative, as the viroid is not evenly distributed throughout the plant."
"That means infected plants can test negative in one test and then test positive several months later."
mjbizdaily.com
So let's see. There is this virus people are panicking about that may or may not show up in testing. Yet people are in a mad dash to get testing done despite it not being reliable. People are also in a mad dash to get tissue cultures to save some strain that's carrying this alleged virus that's inflicting massive financial loss across the industry to save some polyhybrid. It doesn't make any sense. The prudent thing to do would be to destroy all stock of plants that supposedly carry the virus to keep it from spreading further. But how do you do that when plants can test negative one day and positive the next?
My plan is to not worry about it. If it does exist oh well. Not my problem. I have enough seed stock of dozens of strains that came from other places in the world to keep me growing disease free weed for the rest of my life and I'm sharing all of that for free with my friends that grow so we'll always be a small pocket of disease free weed growers.
One thing I don't understand is the lack of efforts to stop the spread of this virus. If it's so bad then the prudent thing to do would be to stop growing strains that are found to be carrying it. But that's not the path being taken. Instead people are focused on testing for something even though the testing is not reliable. That makes no sense. Why take a chance? Just grow something else that hasn't been afflicted by the disease. But like most things cannabis the solution is always more complicated than it needs to be. And testing is a lucrative business so testing is the path people are apparently taking.
They have spent years and tens of millions trying to eradicate Panama Disease which affects the common Cavendish banana without success. What makes anyone think that testing for this is going to stop it's spread? Especially when a guy with a PhD has stated that a plant can test negative and then positive later?
So everyone run out and pay for a test that can come back as negative but another test taken later can show positive. I'll spend my money on beer.
"An issue with large mother plants is that separate parts of a large plant can test positive and negative, as the viroid is not evenly distributed throughout the plant."
"That means infected plants can test negative in one test and then test positive several months later."
And according to this article that was posted in a previous thread testing is not reliable.
"An issue with large mother plants is that separate parts of a large plant can test positive and negative, as the viroid is not evenly distributed throughout the plant."
"That means infected plants can test negative in one test and then test positive several months later."
An elusive pathogen is damaging cannabis crops - here's how to fight it
Joseph Ramahi, chief science officer for Cultivaris Hemp, explains best practices for cannabis cultivators to combat hop latent viroid.
mjbizdaily.com
So let's see. There is this virus people are panicking about that may or may not show up in testing. Yet people are in a mad dash to get testing done despite it not being reliable. People are also in a mad dash to get tissue cultures to save some strain that's carrying this alleged virus that's inflicting massive financial loss across the industry to save some polyhybrid. It doesn't make any sense. The prudent thing to do would be to destroy all stock of plants that supposedly carry the virus to keep it from spreading further. But how do you do that when plants can test negative one day and positive the next?
My plan is to not worry about it. If it does exist oh well. Not my problem. I have enough seed stock of dozens of strains that came from other places in the world to keep me growing disease free weed for the rest of my life and I'm sharing all of that for free with my friends that grow so we'll always be a small pocket of disease free weed growers.
One thing I don't understand is the lack of efforts to stop the spread of this virus. If it's so bad then the prudent thing to do would be to stop growing strains that are found to be carrying it. But that's not the path being taken. Instead people are focused on testing for something even though the testing is not reliable. That makes no sense. Why take a chance? Just grow something else that hasn't been afflicted by the disease. But like most things cannabis the solution is always more complicated than it needs to be. And testing is a lucrative business so testing is the path people are apparently taking.
They have spent years and tens of millions trying to eradicate Panama Disease which affects the common Cavendish banana without success. What makes anyone think that testing for this is going to stop it's spread? Especially when a guy with a PhD has stated that a plant can test negative and then positive later?
So everyone run out and pay for a test that can come back as negative but another test taken later can show positive. I'll spend my money on beer.
"An issue with large mother plants is that separate parts of a large plant can test positive and negative, as the viroid is not evenly distributed throughout the plant."
"That means infected plants can test negative in one test and then test positive several months later."
I wonder how I got it then since my Kosher Kush that I lost to it was from seed. Back then I had taken zero external clones. I think they are due credit for doing the research. I remember desperately trying to find information about dudding off back then and there was nothing. I don't know about their statistics but I think a $25.00 test is a minimal investment for knowing what you have. Anyway just my opinion. Thanks for answering. I was curious.
Sqwee
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Here is another little gem
"Three to four tests per nursery plant is key, Warren says, due to the aforementioned latent nature of the virus."
So that one cut people send it to DH for $25 bucks and then say "look at me I test!" aren't thoroughly testing at all. You need to send in 3-4 cuts, so $75-100 for each plant you want tested.
"Three to four tests per nursery plant is key, Warren says, due to the aforementioned latent nature of the virus."
So that one cut people send it to DH for $25 bucks and then say "look at me I test!" aren't thoroughly testing at all. You need to send in 3-4 cuts, so $75-100 for each plant you want tested.
Sqwee
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I didn't say it didn't exist before them, I said they're responsible for turning it into the supposed epidemic that it is and there is no denying that.