usefull grow and inside info on the BLACK WIDOW str

Who gives a fuck if its not the original. Grow em and see how it goes. Get off yur fucking high horses people!!
 
1 - Make sure you don't give it to much plant food or to little because they can die.
2 - Take a cutting off of her as soon as you can because if you clone her and the mom dies you still have the clone(s)
3 - If you want regular seeds from it take clones of your BW and find some good regular WW seeds find a good male out of them and pollinate the BW clone with the male WW to make F1s. Dry the seeds right and put most of them away but make sure to label the male WW that you used so that you can find out what one made the best seeds. Back cross the male of the F1 with the BW to stabilize it but also lock in the BW genetics. The more back crosses you do with the BW mom then the higher % her DNA will be in the regular seeds the more her DNA will show in those seeds. This method is very useful if you can only get feminized seeds of a strain but make it so that you have regular seeds of it.
4 - If the fem seed(s) hermi just let them produce seeds because there is always a chance you will end up with some fem seeds that aren't hermi. If not you can get into the art of making a clone hermi to produce seeds. Dry them and store them away. Do a few batches or more of your fem BW and you'll be safer to.


To the point. The methods I have told you is how you can try to preserve fem strains that you bought so that even if you lost the plant(s) of it you will still have seeds of it to grow out. IMO I would do method 4 to make a batch of seeds from your BW clones and make sure you do enough so that you don't have to flower seeds and find out that there aren't any pure fems to help protect your hard earned investment.
 
Who gives a fuck if its not the original. Grow em and see how it goes. Get off yur fucking high horses people!!


okay sir... its not a high horse... its called practical breeding....

learn something about genetics sir

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F1_hybrid

"While an F2 hybrid, the result of self or cross pollination of an F1, does not have the consistency of the F1 hybrid, it may retain some desirable traits and can be produced more cheaply as no intervention in the pollination is required. Some seed companies offer F2 seed, particularly in bedding plants where consistency is not as critical."


edit ps. The reason the original is important when it comes to things like this is because the original is made by SHANTIBABA. Anything made from his seeds will be good dont get me wrong but no where near as consistent as the f1. Your guy could be taking a crap cutting from nirvana and just pollinating what ever he wants into it and call it black widow. lol thats the whole reason shanti renamed all the white crosses when he went to mr nice so ppl would know what beans were really his

original white widow = Black widow
original white rhino = Medicine Man
original great white shark = Shark Shock

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Shark shock (gws) is my personal fav of the white strains
 
thnx for all the advice but 1 step ahead im cloning and i got mother plants so far of my white widow ak-48 and african free just waiting for my white rhino and black widow to get bigger also im trying out grafting with good sucess my goal is to have 2 mother plants with 5-6 differnt strains being supported by the plant
1 - Make sure you don't give it to much plant food or to little because they can die.
2 - Take a cutting off of her as soon as you can because if you clone her and the mom dies you still have the clone(s)
3 - If you want regular seeds from it take clones of your BW and find some good regular WW seeds find a good male out of them and pollinate the BW clone with the male WW to make F1s. Dry the seeds right and put most of them away but make sure to label the male WW that you used so that you can find out what one made the best seeds. Back cross the male of the F1 with the BW to stabilize it but also lock in the BW genetics. The more back crosses you do with the BW mom then the higher % her DNA will be in the regular seeds the more her DNA will show in those seeds. This method is very useful if you can only get feminized seeds of a strain but make it so that you have regular seeds of it.
4 - If the fem seed(s) hermi just let them produce seeds because there is always a chance you will end up with some fem seeds that aren't hermi. If not you can get into the art of making a clone hermi to produce seeds. Dry them and store them away. Do a few batches or more of your fem BW and you'll be safer to.


To the point. The methods I have told you is how you can try to preserve fem strains that you bought so that even if you lost the plant(s) of it you will still have seeds of it to grow out. IMO I would do method 4 to make a batch of seeds from your BW clones and make sure you do enough so that you don't have to flower seeds and find out that there aren't any pure fems to help protect your hard earned investment.
 
thnx great info unnk im always willing to learn
okay sir... its not a high horse... its called practical breeding....

learn something about genetics sir

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F1_hybrid

"While an F2 hybrid, the result of self or cross pollination of an F1, does not have the consistency of the F1 hybrid, it may retain some desirable traits and can be produced more cheaply as no intervention in the pollination is required. Some seed companies offer F2 seed, particularly in bedding plants where consistency is not as critical."


edit ps. The reason the original is important when it comes to things like this is because the original is made by SHANTIBABA. Anything made from his seeds will be good dont get me wrong but no where near as consistent as the f1. Your guy could be taking a crap cutting from nirvana and just pollinating what ever he wants into it and call it black widow. lol thats the whole reason shanti renamed all the white crosses when he went to mr nice so ppl would know what beans were really his

original white widow = Black widow
original white rhino = Medicine Man
original great white shark = Shark Shock

edit pss

Shark shock (gws) is my personal fav of the white strains
 
Who gives a fuck if its not the original. Grow em and see how it goes. Get off yur fucking high horses people!!

Why buy a knockoff that is genetically different from the original and then say you bought 'White Widow,' or whatever, when in reality you didn't and you only bought a fake that uses the name of a famous strain?

There are thousands of strains to pick from, thousands, so why pick a fugazi that only sells because it uses the name of a famous strain? Why not instead pick one of the THOUSANDS of other strains that are available? Because in reality the person wants the original but due to cost or some other reason they pick the fugazi and hope that it will at least be somewhat close to being like the original.
 
The original white rhino is Medicine Man, this guy is a genius. Medicine Man is a knock you down, fix what ails you kind of stone.
Not for small spaces, and it takes really well to light LST.
For the white widow, Soma Seeds White Light is something to try. It's an energizing smoke.
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Here is the black widow im growing now and it took three weeks into flower to show sex but here she is slow ass bitch lol

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Looks good. Also after having my AeroGarden I have learned that if you want to find plants of a strain that you have can root fast that's where it comes in hand because you can see what roots faster and what doesn't.
 
expect low yields from female seeds black widow. i just grew them....horrible. learn from your mistakes. first thing is to check here before purchasing then go to seedsfinder and see what they say. which i didnt do....there iced grapefruit is good and i think there widow x big bud is ok there always sold out. the good thing about them is there price...
I grew a bunch ilgm black widow fem 3x3 full scrog with 16” tops only yielded 3 zips wtf!!!
 
i just did white widow and it yeilded very well of course im running 1000w closet and they where feminized also
I just grew several regular, not feminized, as nor offered yest, feom Nirvana. My first test two days ago was this.....after 8 yrs, I now know what strain of plant I will be growing from nowon.!!!! Nirvana has their shit together, very discreet shipping and covers any bank transaction, and are great to work with....But black widow is a spaced out, relaxing...almost like a xanax high.!!!! Easy to grow and covered in trikes...I did not see anything nute sensitive about it.!!!
Also it was glittering in trikes
 

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I just grew several regular, not feminized, as nor offered yest, feom Nirvana. My first test two days ago was this.....after 8 yrs, I now know what strain of plant I will be growing from nowon.!!!! Nirvana has their shit together, very discreet shipping and covers any bank transaction, and are great to work with....But black widow is a spaced out, relaxing...almost like a xanax high.!!!! Easy to grow and covered in trikes...I did not see anything nute sensitive about it.!!!
Also it was glittering in trikes
There widows a f2 there black widow is different nirvanas is misty a ww hybrid crossed back to the widow its not the same as mr nices ime black widow(mrnices) now is nothing like old one
 
There widows a f2 there black widow is different nirvanas is misty a ww hybrid crossed back to the widow its not the same as mr nices ime black widow(mrnices) now is nothing like old one
U may be correct, but I could've swore I read they had help from Mr Nice...it was an actual thanks to them in the strain post....I grew acp this past season and turned out grt.!!!
 
U may be correct, but I could've swore I read they had help from Mr Nice...it was an actual thanks to them in the strain post....I grew acp this past season and turned out grt.!!!
Or on their site describing it. This has turned out to be one of the best head highs....feels like ur brain has taken a xanax.!!!! Good stuff....
 

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Or on their site describing it. This has turned out to be one of the best head highs....feels like ur brain has taken a xanax.!!!! Good stuff....
U like that id reccomend there chrystal strain some places still have it in stock its white widow x nl backcrossed to the nl that is some nice weed pretty potent too its got the classic ww touch with a fuely backing in the taste and smell it was one of my faves from nirvana i liked ak48 ww and Aurora indica as well
 
What is making people laugh is that if it is real Black Widow, they aren't feminized since Shantibaba has not marketed feminized seeds so far. Not all that long ago he did offer a very limited number of feminized seeds of some strains on his auction site, something of a public test, but none were released to seedbanks. If someone buys feminized Black Widow seeds they are either Positronics knockoff/fake/imitation Black Widow or a feminized F2 version of Shantibaba's Black Widow made by someone other than Shantibaba. So if feminized, they are not the Real McCoy Black Widow genetics.
Black widow is the true white widow he took white widow he strain he made n named it black widow n yea that's what I have read when it comes to black widow that it is the true white widow ... But its Mr.nice seeds or some other site .I jus ordered black widow fem an can't wait to see how she grows n does.... But then again what I read could b wrong . but they say the guy took his white widow went else where n named it black widow ... So if u get the right black widow u got he true white widow..but goodluck to ya hope your grows are growing nice
 
U like that id reccomend there chrystal strain some places still have it in stock its white widow x nl backcrossed to the nl that is some nice weed pretty potent too its got the classic ww touch with a fuely backing in the taste and smell it was one of my faves from nirvana i liked ak48 ww and Aurora indica as well
Agree with you on most mentioned. Misty smelled like your socks but tasted like you had kissed some sugarcane. Chrystal kinda metallicwidow and the aurora I liked also. Earlier days, but good memories
 
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