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Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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Alcoholock said:
I mean, its referenced work, all cited.,....I mean Iknow you could'nt have read the 30+ pages... and all the references....But okay, figured i'd lay down some verifiable facts and let you guys decide... but I can see minds are predetermined.... But wanna know whats not fake news? India and Israel spiking almost exactly the same. percentage wise. Graphs are in there... info was had by Israel and India.... Also... in the out break in MA. nearly 75% of all hospitalized... were jabbed https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/massachusetts-outbreak-demonstrates-delta-variants-transmissibility

I mean its efficacy is pretty lousy.
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Curious
Does your victim card ever expire?
 
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Alcoholock

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Does you blindly follow the tv and never check any known facts card ever expire? I mean I knew who i was dealing with... when i read your info line....friend of mine, 25 years old. division 2 wrestler... 23 got it, parcarditis... was in the hospital on second jab, Its not just made up... and no I didnt vote for trump... I mean its all there, I guess id want to turn a blind eye as well if i touted having the vacine like you do, and it works like shit... lol

just figured i could present facts and we could discuss as humans who want to see this thing go away.... But.. as advertised... this section is quite biased... thats cool. infos there for anyone more inquisitive than mr "FULLY VACINATED"
 
Singlemalt

Singlemalt

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Alcoholock said:
I mean, its referenced work, all cited.,....I mean Iknow you could'nt have read the 30+ pages... and all the references....But okay, figured i'd lay down some verifiable facts and let you guys decide... but I can see minds are predetermined.... But wanna know whats not fake news? India and Israel spiking almost exactly the same. percentage wise. Graphs are in there... info was had by Israel and India.... Also... in the out break in MA. nearly 75% of all hospitalized... were jabbed https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/massachusetts-outbreak-demonstrates-delta-variants-transmissibility

I mean its efficacy is pretty lousy.
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Alcoholock

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Singlemalt said:
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Its not those #s we're looking at.. its the curve that hit both the most vaccinated country in the world, israel and one of the Least... (India) and the curve looked almost identical...I mean I dont know what other evidence with clearer signs can be presented in a world wide pandemic.. other than, this country, lots of jabs, still high rate of infection, this country, almost no jabs, tightly packed, shit conditions, SAME spike.,... right? this info came from India and Israel themselves.
 
CatHedral

CatHedral

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Alcoholock said:
Does you blindly follow the tv and never check any known facts card ever expire? I mean I knew who i was dealing with... when i read your info line....friend of mine, 25 years old. division 2 wrestler... 23 got it, parcarditis... was in the hospital on second jab, Its not just made up... and no I didnt vote for trump... I mean its all there, I guess id want to turn a blind eye as well if i touted having the vacine like you do, and it works like shit... lol

just figured i could present facts and we could discuss as humans who want to see this thing go away.... But.. as advertised... this section is quite biased... thats cool. infos there for anyone more inquisitive than mr "FULLY VACINATED"
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How do you tell known facts from well crafted propaganda?
Sincerely,
someone who just gotta know
 
CatHedral

CatHedral

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Alcoholock said:
Its not those #s we're looking at.. its the curve that hit both the most vaccinated country in the world, israel and one of the Least... (India) and the curve looked almost identical...I mean I dont know what other evidence with clearer signs can be presented in a world wide pandemic.. other than, this country, lots of jabs, still high rate of infection, this country, almost no jabs, tightly packed, shit conditions, SAME spike.,... right? this info came from India and Israel themselves.
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Infection tells one side of the story. The other is consequence of infection. There the vaxed did ridiculously better than the unvaxed. Infection yes, morbidity not so much. That is a serious metric.
 
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Alcoholock

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morbidity numbers were within 5%, between israel and India, ( during delta outbreak) and most attribute those 5%s to the mostly appauling conditions MOST people live in... In India.... actually..and trust me the 5% that are jabbed are of the upper class ...and dont live in those conditions in India... (if you read.....at all... weird someone screaming propaganda is unwilling to look at facts given by other gov't, cdc and w.h.o., whilst....only believing their echo chamber of propaganda..) But I guess if you deem official reports by doctors, lawyers and entire governments.....propaganda... then well... There is no reaching you.
 
CatHedral

CatHedral

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Alcoholock said:
morbidity numbers were within 5%, between israel and India, ( during delta outbreak) and most attribute those 5%s to the mostly appauling conditions MOST people live in... In India.... actually..and trust me the 5% that are jabbed are of the upper class ...and dont live in those conditions in India... (if you read.....at all... weird someone screaming propaganda is unwilling to look at facts given by other gov't, cdc and w.h.o., whilst....only believing their echo chamber of propaganda..) But I guess if you deem official reports by doctors, lawyers and entire governments.....propaganda... then well... There is no reaching you.
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Alcoholock

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CatHedral said:
Links
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I've linked everything.. in PDF format, including all referenced links to israel, the vaccination reporting system vaers....and India....and the link the the delta outbreak in MA... which lined hospital ERs with 75% fully jabbed folks.... one page back.
 
curious2garden

curious2garden

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Nutty sKunK said:
Sure but those other things weren’t in as much demand when now billions of jabs are now manufactured.

Money is being made!!
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You work for free?
Nutty sKunK said:
I’m merely stating that if there’s an opportunity to make money seldom governments refuse the opportunity to do so.

It’s just the way this worlds works unfortunately
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So you don't work for a living, because money bad?
 
curious2garden

curious2garden

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Alcoholock said:
Its not those #s we're looking at.. its the curve that hit both the most vaccinated country in the world, israel and one of the Least... (India) and the curve looked almost identical...I mean I dont know what other evidence with clearer signs can be presented in a world wide pandemic.. other than, this country, lots of jabs, still high rate of infection, this country, almost no jabs, tightly packed, shit conditions, SAME spike.,... right? this info came from India and Israel themselves.
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You never took statistics, did you?
 
printer

printer

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Alcoholock said:
I mean, its referenced work, all cited.,....I mean Iknow you could'nt have read the 30+ pages... and all the references....But okay, figured i'd lay down some verifiable facts and let you guys decide... but I can see minds are predetermined.... But wanna know whats not fake news? India and Israel spiking almost exactly the same. percentage wise. Graphs are in there... info was had by Israel and India.... Also... in the out break in MA. nearly 75% of all hospitalized... were jabbed https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/massachusetts-outbreak-demonstrates-delta-variants-transmissibility

I mean its efficacy is pretty lousy.
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A quote from your article.

"Despite the findings from the outbreak in Provincetown, the vaccine does appear to provide good protection against severe disease."

Fuck your predetermined bullshit.
 
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Alcoholock

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lol ....and there it is.. as soon as genuine information is presented.... that outlies anything outside of what "your side" is fighting for... its not legit... I mean, I cant live my life that way, and ....idk.. its just got to feel awfully weird...to only surround yourself with one sided 'facts'.... and statistics......right.. well...im a graduate of an ivy league school... and ive worked 15 years as a night system administrator at the second largest big pharma distributer in the world... but im sure those facts will be filed under the "non peer-reviewed" part of your brain... lol... OH Im sure no one from medical news today.. or the Isreali gov't.... or Indian gov't has ever taken statistics..... or understands these #s... you're right they're all just saying YAHOOOO as they release info...willy nilly right based on bullshit...right?? *rolls eyes*
 
CatHedral

CatHedral

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Alcoholock said:
lol ....and there it is.. as soon as genuine information is presented.... that outlies anything outside of what "your side" is fighting for... its not legit... I mean, I cant live my life that way, and ....idk.. its just got to feel awfully weird...to only surround yourself with one sided 'facts'.... and statistics......right.. well...im a graduate of an ivy league school... and ive worked 15 years as a night system administrator at the second largest big pharma distributer in the world... but im sure those facts will be filed under the "non peer-reviewed" part of your brain... lol... OH Im sure no one from medical news today.. or the Isreali gov't.... or Indian gov't has ever taken statistics..... or understands these #s... you're right they're all just saying YAHOOOO as they release info...willy nilly right based on bullshit...right?? *rolls eyes*
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cite peer-reviewed source
 
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Alcoholock

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printer said:
A quote from your article.

"Despite the findings from the outbreak in Provincetown, the vaccine does appear to provide good protection against severe disease."

Fuck your predetermined bullshit.
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and its efficacy as a vaccine, something that prevents a disease.... not 'lessens' it......is dog shit, if 3/4ths of the people in the icu in MA were fully vaxed..... and if its so good., why were they seeking hospitalization?... cuz they felt great? cmon man.
 
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