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koncyse

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what should the runoff be for a hempy bucket. Mine is showing up around 7 but my mix is around 5.8 going in. just perlite and a 20 oz foam cup.
 
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THseaman

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what should the runoff be for a hempy bucket. Mine is showing up around 7 but my mix is around 5.8 going in. just perlite and a 20 oz foam cup.
My initial guess would be that you didn't flush your perlite well enough when you started and it's affecting the PH. If this is the case then a simple flush with good PH'd water of about 6.-6.2 should do the trick.
 

DaGambler

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i just hate to see this thread die... cuz i'm in the middle of testing it out on a rather large scale :D (not that its dying) butta, i can only repeat what Master AzGrow and IanTheLumberjack seem to have put forth... that your overall pH of 5.8-7.0 is on track enough... but that a more "soil-like" (as opposed to hydro-like) pH of 6.5-6.8 might be more appropriate for this medium. (though the difference between what the above gentleman suggests 6.2 and what i'm respewing 6.5 seems rather trifling... I just want to get my post count up :D)
 

koncyse

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its plain perlite. no MG shit with nutrients or anything. the seeds i have germing now are going into pre flushed containers though, as i thought this might be affecting it.
thanks
 

bc.trip

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can anybody suggest a good stand alone nutrient for hempy? just starting out it seems like it'd be a lot easier to only have one solution to mix in with my water.
 

koncyse

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i have fox farms 3 part but i have also added a little applejuice per gods gift to wheelchairs....

i'll find the link...
https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/56007-applejuice-its-not-just-baby.html

guy is a wonder when it comes to cultivation.

and mollassess... or however they spell the shit
NO SULFUR

and it works so far.

based on what i read, since there is no nutes in perlite, that the 3 leaf sets browning and falling off is because nature tells the plant to "go eat yourself" at first... i'll try to get pics now before lights off.
 

koncyse

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you can see the browning and yellowing somewhat (shitty cellphone pics and i cant just tell my gf's daughter "i need to take some pictures of my secret pot plant... can i get your camera")


anyway... 2 pictures and you can see the browning and yellowing






the pictures fucking suck and i am being fucking bugged to leave so those will have to do for now.
 
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THseaman

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i just hate to see this thread die... cuz i'm in the middle of testing it out on a rather large scale :D (not that its dying) butta, i can only repeat what Master AzGrow and IanTheLumberjack seem to have put forth... that your overall pH of 5.8-7.0 is on track enough... but that a more "soil-like" (as opposed to hydro-like) pH of 6.5-6.8 might be more appropriate for this medium. (though the difference between what the above gentleman suggests 6.2 and what i'm respewing 6.5 seems rather trifling... I just want to get my post count up :D)
Hempy himself says 6.1 is optimum for this method. But then again he also recommends 3 parts perlite, 1 part vermiculite. Most people on here are using 100% perlite which I guess changes the optimum PH. If I had it to do over again, I'd have followed hempy's suggestion and NOT have gone with 100% perlite this grow. I think the nutrients in vermiculite would probably speed up initial growth and also eliminate a lot of the early deficiencies most people seem to be reporting growing in 100% perlite.
 

bc.trip

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do a lot of you guys have to buffer your perlite prior to setup(did i say that right?)? i'm having some problems w/ the ph of my buckets being too high. i'm using schultz perlite, by the way.
 

koncyse

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you should do an initial flush before planting. I made that mistake and now one plants runoff ph is always high. The ones i just planted and flushed before hand are more stable...
 

bc.trip

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ya i ended up having problems with my ph. had to flush today, and from now on i'm going to soak my perlite over night. would that basically bring the ph down like soaking rockwool overnight does?

and just another testament to this method: i watered yesterday so i was worried about my plants having overwatering problems when i flushed today. after a thorough flush all the plants showed major signs of overwatering, but it only took a few hours for them to all perk back up.
 
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THseaman

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ya i ended up having problems with my ph. had to flush today, and from now on i'm going to soak my perlite over night. would that basically bring the ph down like soaking rockwool overnight does?

and just another testament to this method: i watered yesterday so i was worried about my plants having overwatering problems when i flushed today. after a thorough flush all the plants showed major signs of overwatering, but it only took a few hours for them to all perk back up.
You can't really soak perlite, it just floats to the top. Just fill your container up with perlite and flush normally allowing PH'd water to run through the drain hole prior to placing your seed/clone in.
 

bc.trip

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You can't really soak perlite, it just floats to the top. Just fill your container up with perlite and flush normally allowing PH'd water to run through the drain hole prior to placing your seed/clone in.
for the next run if i flush prior to use that'll take care of it though?
 
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THseaman

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for the next run if i flush prior to use that'll take care of it though?
Flushing your perlite with PH'd water creates a more neutral environment so that you can better control the PH variables, yes. Are you thinking your PH is too high though? B/C most ph problems I've heard about with Hempy buckets is due to low ph. 6-6.5 is optimum.
 

bc.trip

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Flushing your perlite with PH'd water creates a more neutral environment so that you can better control the PH variables, yes. Are you thinking your PH is too high though? B/C most ph problems I've heard about with Hempy buckets is due to low ph. 6-6.5 is optimum.
ya, the ph of my runoff was 7.2 after using ph 6.1 water to feed. i managed to bring it down quite a bit yesterday thanks to the flush. i think i'm going to feed w/ ph 5.8 until the perlite adjusts a little lower, if that sounds like a good idea.
 

Boneman

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I just finished one of my two hempy plants and had no problems with PH. Actually I only checked it before feeding. I never did the runoff cuz my plants were doing so well so I just left well alone. It would have given me one more thing to tinker with that didnt need tinkering. I still have one plant going in it and my journal is still active in my sig.
 

bc.trip

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I just finished one of my two hempy plants and had no problems with PH. Actually I only checked it before feeding. I never did the runoff cuz my plants were doing so well so I just left well alone. It would have given me one more thing to tinker with that didnt need tinkering. I still have one plant going in it and my journal is still active in my sig.
i only checked the runoff once problems started to show on one of my plants. you're right, though. i'd never bother checking runoff unless there was a problem, just extra work.
 
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THseaman

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ya, the ph of my runoff was 7.2 after using ph 6.1 water to feed. i managed to bring it down quite a bit yesterday thanks to the flush. i think i'm going to feed w/ ph 5.8 until the perlite adjusts a little lower, if that sounds like a good idea.
I wouldn't. I would keep it between 6 and 6.5 when feeding/watering. When you flushed did you put enough water in to let them piss for a while?
 

bc.trip

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I wouldn't. I would keep it between 6 and 6.5 when feeding/watering. When you flushed did you put enough water in to let them piss for a while?
oh ya. they're in 6 in. pots right now and i put about 1 1/2 gallons through each pot. since perlite has a neutral ph around 7 i suppose it'll always bring the ph of my nute solution up a little, but i guess this is ok?
 

koncyse

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from what i've read in most hempy journals, cal-mag seems to be essential in hempy buckets because of the lack of soil. Can anyone with experience concur with this? I think its the cause of my yellowing and such.
 
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