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I have an 8x4 tent with four LED lights that are capable of filling a 5x5 for cannabis growing. About 3 ft down of totally filled flowering for each light. They penetrate well. Each light consumes 180 watts when on full.I'd like to stretch them into as much distance here that I can for fruits and vegetables and herbs. If I have to pick up more lights in a couple months I will.
I have full access to the front 8 ft and one side 4 ft. I have no access to one side of the 4 ft and incredibly limited access to the back 8 ft.
I can control the light height easily. The floor is a tent catch basin, in the tent, over a tarp, over a carpet, over a floor over concrete slab. I am in Washington State and that slab is cold.
I can control the room heat pretty well and inside the tent I can maintain anywhere from 65° and up. My choice.
Since this is the first time I've ever done these types of seeds I ended up growing way too much in way too many dirt cubes. I've done one transplant of about half the plants so far and now have to figure out where they will finally end up, and figure out what's appropriate to kill simply due to lack of space.
Because I have multiple intertwined plants in a single cube I have to determine if I should separate them out and grow single plants or just let them grow where they are together and transplant them as one. In those cases it's all the same plant. Carrots with carrots, tomatoes with tomatoes, peppers with peppers, all the same strains, etc.
And I have at least six cubes of each strain growing this way.
Of course I've various goals and priorities. Fresh food is number one. Calorie and nutrient dense. I'll put up with some filler material like lettuce but not my choice, that's what the wife wants.
Don't harm the plants. If they can grow as one, do it but if I have to separate them out and kill them because of that and take a chance on the transplant failures do it.
In the case of the root vegetables it is my understanding that they will sense competition and they will not grow as big. The question to me is will they grow lots of little ones or will that be it? A couple of tiny ones and they are done? I'll be eating the tops as well so I won't mind if they're competing for the light and I have to chop them back.
Same goes for the viney stuff. Those zucchinis will be competing for space with those tomatoes and those peppers. Can I plant them in the same foot square space and train them up? Root mass is needed if the roots can't find the nutrients and the roots will have plenty of nutrients. I'll train them up on the trellis. Do they secrete anything or do they fight underground in ways which are harmful to each other if they have enough nutrients?
Of the plants I have, which ones would require a dramatically different watering schedule or nutrient regime that I would have to keep them separate?
To me the concept is watering until water runs off the bottom and then stop. Does anything need more or less than that?
Right now I'm using with Jack's tomato feed combined with a bit of super thrive. That's it. Do any of these things require a potash low diet since this particular blend is high in it?
Can I split a 1 ft square grow space between the viney stuff which I will train to go up the wall with the root stuff such as the carrots and beets? Is this bad or indifferent or possibly even beneficial?
The goal is to have a step system for about 3 feet looking into the tent from the front 8 ft. All the viny stuff goes up the back and the sides and then a couple of long steps / platforms to hold the other stuff in multiple square foot fabric planting segments. I'll have a skinny walk space into it in the middle from the wide part of the tent.
That means I will have 16 ft of trellises about 5 ft high when taking into account lighting position and ventilation requirements. I can allow the root space to be anywhere from 1 to 2 ft deep and 4 to 8 ft wide. It will be slightly raised off the floor to allow final drainage into a pumpable or dumpable container.
The LEDs are tuned high blue to encourage squat growth.
Then we have the long-lived herbs that end up as bushes and grow too damn slow and won't mix with any of the stuff that I'm going to be harvesting in two or three months. Those will end up in independent movable containers. So what herbs can live together as well?
What plants can I mix and match in this fashion?
Attached is a picture. Please keep a note that this is under the LED grow light which shows these leaves as being a bit more yellow than they are. Under standard human light they are a bit more green.
The following is the list of plants currently growing. Spinach, lettuce, broccoli, turnips, lemon balm, watermelon, scallions, Italian basil, oregano, marjoram, sage, rosemary, thyme, tarragon, Marconi red pepper, California wonder pepper, cayenne pepper, jalapeno pepper, San marzano tomato, rainbow tomato which means nothing, that could be anything, cabbage, basil, yellow pear tomato, dill, Swiss chard, cucumber, zucchini, beets, carrots.
Thanks for reading this far.
I have an 8x4 tent with four LED lights that are capable of filling a 5x5 for cannabis growing. About 3 ft down of totally filled flowering for each light. They penetrate well. Each light consumes 180 watts when on full.I'd like to stretch them into as much distance here that I can for fruits and vegetables and herbs. If I have to pick up more lights in a couple months I will.
I have full access to the front 8 ft and one side 4 ft. I have no access to one side of the 4 ft and incredibly limited access to the back 8 ft.
I can control the light height easily. The floor is a tent catch basin, in the tent, over a tarp, over a carpet, over a floor over concrete slab. I am in Washington State and that slab is cold.
I can control the room heat pretty well and inside the tent I can maintain anywhere from 65° and up. My choice.
Since this is the first time I've ever done these types of seeds I ended up growing way too much in way too many dirt cubes. I've done one transplant of about half the plants so far and now have to figure out where they will finally end up, and figure out what's appropriate to kill simply due to lack of space.
Because I have multiple intertwined plants in a single cube I have to determine if I should separate them out and grow single plants or just let them grow where they are together and transplant them as one. In those cases it's all the same plant. Carrots with carrots, tomatoes with tomatoes, peppers with peppers, all the same strains, etc.
And I have at least six cubes of each strain growing this way.
Of course I've various goals and priorities. Fresh food is number one. Calorie and nutrient dense. I'll put up with some filler material like lettuce but not my choice, that's what the wife wants.
Don't harm the plants. If they can grow as one, do it but if I have to separate them out and kill them because of that and take a chance on the transplant failures do it.
In the case of the root vegetables it is my understanding that they will sense competition and they will not grow as big. The question to me is will they grow lots of little ones or will that be it? A couple of tiny ones and they are done? I'll be eating the tops as well so I won't mind if they're competing for the light and I have to chop them back.
Same goes for the viney stuff. Those zucchinis will be competing for space with those tomatoes and those peppers. Can I plant them in the same foot square space and train them up? Root mass is needed if the roots can't find the nutrients and the roots will have plenty of nutrients. I'll train them up on the trellis. Do they secrete anything or do they fight underground in ways which are harmful to each other if they have enough nutrients?
Of the plants I have, which ones would require a dramatically different watering schedule or nutrient regime that I would have to keep them separate?
To me the concept is watering until water runs off the bottom and then stop. Does anything need more or less than that?
Right now I'm using with Jack's tomato feed combined with a bit of super thrive. That's it. Do any of these things require a potash low diet since this particular blend is high in it?
Can I split a 1 ft square grow space between the viney stuff which I will train to go up the wall with the root stuff such as the carrots and beets? Is this bad or indifferent or possibly even beneficial?
The goal is to have a step system for about 3 feet looking into the tent from the front 8 ft. All the viny stuff goes up the back and the sides and then a couple of long steps / platforms to hold the other stuff in multiple square foot fabric planting segments. I'll have a skinny walk space into it in the middle from the wide part of the tent.
That means I will have 16 ft of trellises about 5 ft high when taking into account lighting position and ventilation requirements. I can allow the root space to be anywhere from 1 to 2 ft deep and 4 to 8 ft wide. It will be slightly raised off the floor to allow final drainage into a pumpable or dumpable container.
The LEDs are tuned high blue to encourage squat growth.
Then we have the long-lived herbs that end up as bushes and grow too damn slow and won't mix with any of the stuff that I'm going to be harvesting in two or three months. Those will end up in independent movable containers. So what herbs can live together as well?
What plants can I mix and match in this fashion?
Attached is a picture. Please keep a note that this is under the LED grow light which shows these leaves as being a bit more yellow than they are. Under standard human light they are a bit more green.
The following is the list of plants currently growing. Spinach, lettuce, broccoli, turnips, lemon balm, watermelon, scallions, Italian basil, oregano, marjoram, sage, rosemary, thyme, tarragon, Marconi red pepper, California wonder pepper, cayenne pepper, jalapeno pepper, San marzano tomato, rainbow tomato which means nothing, that could be anything, cabbage, basil, yellow pear tomato, dill, Swiss chard, cucumber, zucchini, beets, carrots.
Thanks for reading this far.
