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OneMoreRip

OneMoreRip

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Who created germ theory of disease and who countered them and with what theory?

research takes time and should be done without trolls trying to sway you one way or another.

I’ve spent a lot of time looking onto it, you are welcome to do the same and I gave you the head start I would have loved to have. Enjoy or not, I don’t care.

there is a saying about common sense, forget how it goes.

love you mod, gone for reals now. Feel free to (please), ban me from this thread.

love you guys.

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Fogdog

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The story about the first person who realized that disease could be carried from the sick to healthy people by an infectious agent:

In 1850, Ignaz Semmelweis saved lives with three words: wash your hands

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In 1850, Ignaz Semmelweis saved lives with three words: wash your hands

On this date in 1850, a prickly Hungarian obstetrician named Ignaz Semmelweis stepped up to the podium of the Vienna Medical Society’s lecture hall to give his fellow doctors advice, which could be summed up in three little words: wash your hands!
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May 15, 2015 3:29 PM EST
On this date in 1850, a prickly Hungarian obstetrician named Ignaz Semmelweis stepped up to the podium of the Vienna Medical Society’s lecture hall. It was a grand and ornately decorated room where some of medicine’s greatest discoveries were first announced. The evening of May 15 would hardly be different — even if those present (and many more who merely read about it) did not acknowledge Semmelweis’s marvelous discovery for several decades.
Ignaz Semmelweis

Ignaz Semmelweis, circa 1860. Photo via Wikimedia
What, exactly, was the doctor’s advice to his colleagues on that long ago night? It could be summed up in three little words: wash your hands!

In the mid-19th century, about five women in 1,000 died in deliveries performed by midwives or at home. Yet when doctors working in the best maternity hospitals in Europe and America performed deliveries, the maternal death rate was often 10 to 20 times greater. The cause was, invariably, childbed fever. And a miserable end it was: raging fevers, putrid pus emanating from the birth canal, painful abscesses in the abdomen and chest, and an irreversible descent into an absolute hell of sepsis and death — all within 24 hours of the baby’s birth.

The reason seems readily apparent today, if not back then. Medical students and their professors at the elite teaching hospitals of this era typically began their day performing barehanded autopsies on the women who had died the day before of childbed fever. They then proceeded to the wards to examine the laboring women about to deliver their babies.
 
bk78

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OneMoreRip said:
Who created germ theory of disease and who countered them and with what theory?

research takes time and should be done without trolls trying to sway you one way or another.

I’ve spent a lot of time looking onto it, you are welcome to do the same and I gave you the head start I would have loved to have. Enjoy or not, I don’t care.

there is a saying about common sense, forget how it goes.

love you mod, gone for reals now. Feel free to (please), ban me from this thread.

love you guys.

bye
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It’d be nice if they just banned you in general from everywhere because you’re fucking awful everywhere.
 
xtsho

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There's at least one Conservative outlet that isn't an echo chamber for the nutcases on the right.

"Getting vaccinated is not only in the narrow self-interest of individual people. It is also in the interest of their families, communities, and their country. It seems both a paltry and trivial sacrifice to get vaccinated and to encourage others to do so, and a virtuous and patriotic thing to do as well. Instead, irresponsible actors are telling people the very opposite of that — that it is cowardly and unpatriotic to endure this potentially life-saving minor inconvenience. People are wearing their personal irresponsibility like a badge of honor."

www.nationalreview.com

Biden’s Vaccine Mandate Is Wrong, but Wouldn’t Have Happened If More Got Vaxxed | National Review

Two wrongs don’t make a right, but neither does Biden’s wrong erase the wrongs that have made his actions politically attractive to him.
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Rob Roy

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Riddick65 said:
Actually, you just die less. You're 11 times less likely to die if you are vaccinated and get a breakthrough infection than if you are unvaccinated.
In cases between June 20 and July 17 when the Delta variant became mainstream, unvaccinated people still accounted for 82 percent of cases, 86 percent of hospitalizations, and 84 percent of deaths.
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I've heard if you die from the fake vaccine within 2 weeks of the jab, they don't count it as a vaccine death.

Gee, what a surprise, manipulated stats.
 
CatHedral

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xtsho said:
There's at least one Conservative outlet that isn't an echo chamber for the nutcases on the right.

"Getting vaccinated is not only in the narrow self-interest of individual people. It is also in the interest of their families, communities, and their country. It seems both a paltry and trivial sacrifice to get vaccinated and to encourage others to do so, and a virtuous and patriotic thing to do as well. Instead, irresponsible actors are telling people the very opposite of that — that it is cowardly and unpatriotic to endure this potentially life-saving minor inconvenience. People are wearing their personal irresponsibility like a badge of honor."

www.nationalreview.com

Biden’s Vaccine Mandate Is Wrong, but Wouldn’t Have Happened If More Got Vaxxed | National Review

Two wrongs don’t make a right, but neither does Biden’s wrong erase the wrongs that have made his actions politically attractive to him.
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The fact they speak against mandated vax means they are too far to the right to have overlap with the center.
 
doublejj

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OneMoreRip said:
Who created germ theory of disease and who countered them and with what theory?

research takes time and should be done without trolls trying to sway you one way or another.

I’ve spent a lot of time looking onto it, you are welcome to do the same and I gave you the head start I would have loved to have. Enjoy or not, I don’t care.

there is a saying about common sense, forget how it goes.

love you mod, gone for reals now. Feel free to (please), ban me from this thread.

love you guys.

bye
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spokoynoy nochi comrade......it's 10:30pm in Moscow

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schuylaar

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jimihendrix1 said:
It would be easily verifiable if there was a chip in the vaccine. You wouldnt be able to get an MRI with an implant. It would burn the shit out of you if you have any kind of implant.
There would be tens of millions of lawsuits. How many people do you think have already had the vaccine, and an MRI?? Millions. Not one lawsuit over an implant.

State and local governments in the United States have mandated immunizations as a prerequisite for attending public schools for quite some time. The Supreme Court has heard several challenges to these mandates and has consistently ruled the mandates to be constitutional. In this blog post, Dorit Reiss, PhD, discusses the Jacobson v. Massachusetts case from 1905 in which the Court upheld the authority of state governments to enforce laws that require their citizens to be immunized.

George Washington mandated vaccine inoculation for his troops.
George Washington and the First Mass Military Inoculation


George Washington's military genius is undisputed. Yet American independence must be partially attributed to a strategy for which history has given the infamous general little credit: his controversial medical actions. Traditionally, the Battle of Saratoga is credited with tipping the revolutionary scales. Yet the health of the Continental regulars involved in battle was a product of the ambitious initiative Washington began earlier that year at Morristown, close on the heels of the victorious Battle of Princeton. Among the Continental regulars in the American Revolution, 90 percent of deaths were caused by disease, and Variola the small pox virus was the most vicious of them all. (Gabriel and Metz 1992, 107)

On the 6th of January 1777, George Washington wrote to Dr. William Shippen Jr., ordering him to inoculate all of the forces that came through Philadelphia. He explained that: "Necessity not only authorizes but seems to require the measure, for should the disorder infect the Army . . . we should have more to dread from it, than from the Sword of the Enemy." The urgency was real. Troops were scarce and encampments had turned into nomadic hospitals of festering disease, deterring further recruitment. Both Benedict Arnold and Benjamin Franklin, after surveying the havoc wreaked by Variola in the Canadian campaign, expressed fears that the virus would be the army's ultimate downfall. (Fenn 2001, 69)

At the time, the practice of infecting the individual with a less-deadly form of the disease was widespread throughout Europe. Most British troops were immune to Variola, giving them an enormous advantage against the vulnerable colonists. (Fenn 2001, 131) Conversely, the history of inoculation in America (beginning with the efforts of the Reverend Cotton Mather in 1720) was pocked by the fear of the contamination potential of the process. Such fears led the Continental Congress to issue a proclamation in 1776 prohibiting Surgeons of the Army to inoculate.

Washington suspected the only available recourse was inoculation, yet contagion risks aside, he knew that a mass inoculation put the entire army in a precarious position should the British hear of his plans. Moreover, Historians estimate that less than a quarter of the Continental Army had ever had the virus; inoculating the remaining three quarters and every new recruit must have seemed daunting. Yet the high prevalence of disease among the army regulars was a significant deterrent to desperately needed recruits, and a dramatic reform was needed to allay their fears.

Weighing the risks, on February 5th of 1777, Washington finally committed to the unpopular policy of mass inoculation by writing to inform Congress of his plan. Throughout February, Washington, with no precedent for the operation he was about to undertake, covertly communicated to his commanding officers orders to oversee mass inoculations of their troops in the model of Morristown and Philadelphia (Dr. Shippen's Hospital). At least eleven hospitals had been constructed by the year's end.

Variola raged throughout the war, devastating the Native American population and slaves who had chosen to fight for the British in exchange for freedom. Yet the isolated infections that sprung up among Continental regulars during the southern campaign failed to incapacitate a single regiment. With few surgeons, fewer medical supplies, and no experience, Washington conducted the first mass inoculation of an army at the height of a war that immeasurably transformed the international system. Defeating the British was impressive, but simultaneously taking on Variola was a risky stroke of genius.
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additionally, that type of needle required to inject a chip is HUGE- ever watch at the Vet when your pet gets a Home Again Pet Chip?

i have to turn my head.
 
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