Pandemic 2020

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canndo

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THMQ-hightimes market quotes blew my mind as a kid. I couldn't figure out wtf was going on out in CA, didn't understand they were quoting modern type strains grown with modern methods...those prices seemed crazy. Texas bulk prices were less than half the local market, so that was cool.

It was absolutely fascinating to me at the time. CA finally started making sense when their super weed made it our way, but it was still pretty rare. Weed that cost more than 100 an ounce really took a lot of convincing.

When I was smoking in socal there were no scales, it was all sold in bricks or bags or "lids".

They were ten bucks and had no set size. If you were lucky you got "four fingers!", for ten dollars.

The bricks had tennis shoes, rubber ducks, stones, stems, and what ever in them so we took the hit. Sandwich bags were all there were. I think we paid $60 for a "brick" which was kind of maybe two ish pounds.
 

canndo

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Biden is going to talk about the new variant at 11:45 am.

No one was overly upset about delta even though projections indicated that it was far more infectious and at least as deadly as alpha.
Oh, but this variant is not yet known at all and we are getting a deluge of coverage (all saying the Same thing....that we don't yet know anything)

And now non information speeches from our covid president.

We are amply alerted. Odds are this will not be a big deal and if it is we have never in history been as prepared.

I vote we just relax a bit.

Everyone knows that the fuss is because it's from ooooohh my, AFRICA.

ALL THE BAD things come from Africa, right?
 

simpleleaf

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No, there is no global conspiracy against Republicans. After all, the Earth is flat as far as they are concerned and they basically ignore anything outside of the continental US.
It's a damn global pandemic, no one has yet controlled that virus. There's a reason I don't come to this forum. The right seems to get all hot and bothered about Buttigieg, so they spread the ridiculousness to the rest of us. I don't remember any prior vice president getting as much news coverage. Transporation Secreatary? Nah it's because he's gay. There are lots of Christians in the U.S., thus the hard right is practicing wedge politics.
 

hanimmal

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No one was overly upset about delta even though projections indicated that it was far more infectious and at least as deadly as alpha.
Oh, but this variant is not yet known at all and we are getting a deluge of coverage (all saying the Same thing....we don't yet know anything)

And now non information speeches from our covid president.

We are amply alerted. Odds are this will nor be a big deal and if it is we have never in history been as prepared.

I vote we just relax a bit.
Maybe after the booster shot though.8-)
 

mooray

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No one was overly upset about delta even though projections indicated that it was far more infectious and at least as deadly as alpha.
Oh, but this variant is not yet known at all and we are getting a deluge of coverage (all saying the Same thing....that we don't yet know anything)

And now non information speeches from our covid president.

We are amply alerted. Odds are this will not be a big deal and if it is we have never in history been as prepared.

I vote we just relax a bit.

Everyone knows that the fuss is because it's from ooooohh my, AFRICA.

ALL THE BAD things come from Africa, right?
Too bad it's not airborne AIDS from Africa, pubs would be walking around in spacesuits.
 

canndo

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Maybe after the booster shot though.8-)

Well yah, you betcha. If for no other reason than to stick it to those Africans.

"There see? We COULD have sent you all this vaccine our people are turning their noses up at. We COULD have helped you out cause you don't even have the basic shots, so we are just going to load up on this stuff, three shots for all! Americans only. He'll, let's get four"
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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It's a damn global pandemic, no one has yet controlled that virus. There's a reason I don't come to this forum. The right seems to get all hot and bothered about Buttigieg, so they spread the ridiculousness to the rest of us. I don't remember any prior vice president getting as much news coverage. Transporation Secreatary? Nah it's because he's gay. There are lots of Christians in the U.S., thus the hard right is practicing wedge politics.
.....whut?....
you're either ping-ponging badly from non related subject to non related subject, or you're under the impression that Buttigieg is V.P.? i can't tell which.
 

hanimmal

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Well yah, you betcha. If for no other reason than to stick it to those Africans.

"There see? We COULD have sent you all this vaccine our people are turning their noses up at. We COULD have helped you out cause you don't even have the basic shots, so we are just going to load up on this stuff, three shots for all! Americans only. He'll, let's get four"
Chewing gum and walking at the same time is fine with me. We should not have a problem doing both, this is not the beginning of the pandemic when the availability of the vaccine was a footrace. We have enough to hit everyone in our nation and the companies are still banging them out.

So it is not the amount of vaccines available from what I have heard, it is getting these nations everything that they need where they need it that seems to be a big part of the issue (from the little I understanding I have of the economics of distributing the vaccine from hearing a few things here and there).

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/namibia-start-destroying-expired-vaccines-due-slow-uptake-2021-11-25/
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WINDHOEK, Nov 25 (Reuters) - Namibia has warned that more than 268,000 doses of AstraZeneca (AZN.L) and Pfizer (PFE.N) COVID-19 vaccines are at risk of being destroyed, some as early as next week, due to a slow uptake by citizens.

Ben Nangombe, executive director in the health ministry, told Reuters on Thursday that 52,261 AstraZeneca vaccines will expire on Tuesday next week, while 215,996 Pfizer shots will be destroyed in January and February if they find no takers as vaccine hesitancy rises.

Namibia, which has started vaccinating 12- to 17-year olds with the Pfizer vaccine after the WHO said on Nov. 15 that it is suitable for people in that age group, has 809,414 doses available nationally.

The southern African nation recorded 15 new cases on Tuesday to bring the number of active cases to 85 compared to a peak of 2,547 cases in a single day on June 24.

Only 298,503, or 20% of an estimated eligible population of 1.5 million, have been fully vaccinated in Namibia, with the Chinese-made Sinopharm vaccine the most used after 145,483 people received two doses since the country’s vaccination programme started in March.

The Russian-made Sputnik V vaccine has been used the least, with only 71 people fully vaccinated before its rollout was suspended on Oct. 23, days after the drugs regulator in neighbouring South Africa flagged concerns about its safety for people at risk of HIV. read more

South African health regulator SAHPRA decided against approving an emergency use application for Sputnik V after some studies suggested vaccines using the Adenovirus Type 5 vector - which Sputnik V does - can lead to higher susceptibility to HIV in men.

South Africa and Namibia have high HIV prevalence rates.
 

canndo

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Pfizer CEO has 'high level of confidence' COVID-19 pill will be effective against omicron
Speaking to CNBC's "Squawk Box" host Meg Tirrell, Bourla said Pfizer could commit to delivering 80 million courses of Paxlovid, the COVID-19 treatment for which the company requested emergency use authorization earlier this month.

"We are right now clearly can commit 80 million doses. It is thanks to — you have seen our manufacturing machine really at work and they just can make it and I'm very, very pleased that we are in this situation," said Bourla.

The CEO noted that there are many unknowns about the omicron variant and more data should become available in the coming weeks. However, Bourla said Paxlovid was designed in anticipation of future possible mutations.

"So that gives me very, very high level of confidence that the treatment will not be affected, our oral treatment will not be affected by this virus. When it comes to the vaccine, remains to be seen. I don't think that the result will be the vaccines don't protect," said Bourla, adding a new vaccine may be needed if current vaccines are shown to be significantly less protective against omicron.

When requesting authorization for its oral COVID-19 treatment from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), Pfizer said it reduced the risk of hospitalization and deaths by 89 percent. The treatment involves taking three pills twice daily for five days. It is recommended that patients start a course of Paxlovid within five to 10 days of symptoms occurring.

The treatment works by using a combination of an antiviral drug developed by Pfizer along with the HIV treatment drug ritonavir to stop SARS-CoV-2 from replicating. Merck has also requested authorization for its COVID-19 treatment drug molnupiravir

I do wish people would just shut up.

How on earth would this ceo know how effective his vaccine is against a bug that has yet to be closely tracked?

It's like asking an astrophysicist if he thinks a particular meteor will strike the earth and his professional response is "I hope not".

You could get the same answer on omicron vaccine resistance from me.
 

canndo

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Chewing gum and walking at the same time is fine with me. We should not have a problem doing both, this is not the beginning of the pandemic when the availability of the vaccine was a footrace. We have enough to hit everyone in our nation and the companies are still banging them out.

So it is not the amount of vaccines available from what I have heard, it is getting these nations everything that they need where they need it that seems to be a big part of the issue (from the little I understanding I have of the economics of distributing the vaccine from hearing a few things here and there).

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/namibia-start-destroying-expired-vaccines-due-slow-uptake-2021-11-25/
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I was going to say that our mistake was abandoning logistics issues to third world countries but then I thought about all those container ships off San Pedro and San Diego so...never mind.
 

simpleleaf

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.....whut?....
you're either ping-ponging badly from non related subject to non related subject, or you're under the impression that Buttigieg is V.P.? i can't tell which.
You're correct. Oops. Edit: I was mad when I wrote that, and should have walked away and come back 15 minutes later for final editing after I'd cooled down. I'm gonna unwatch this thread, I don't want alerts consisting of more anger bait.
>:(
 
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hanimmal

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I was going to say that our mistake was abandoning logistics issues to third world countries but then I thought about all those container ships off San Pedro and San Diego so...never mind.
Like so much lately. Imagine if we had not just abandoned the world for four years and actually got ahead of this virus.

But oh well, cat is out of the bag on that now and the Democrat are scrambling to play catchup while the Republicans try to keep their death cult angry and unhelpful until they get their shot to take over DC in 2022. And they take Biden's ability to do anything outside of Executive orders off the table.

Hopefully the next global pandemic will have all the data form this one to help make far better decisions than we had for the first year here.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Far Right Now Claiming New Coronavirus Variant Is Democratic Plot

In a recent tweet, former White House doctor Dr. Ronny Jackson is now claiming the new COVID-19 variant omicron is a midterm election ploy by the Democrats. The Morning Joe panel discusses.
 

injinji

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Countries are closing their borders to all foreigners, too late experts say that the new variant is probably in a couple dozen countries already.
Two weeks is about all we can hope to slow it down with the closures. If we spend the time getting ready, it's worth it. So far we haven't done a stellar job of getting ready.
 

HGCC

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Far Right Now Claiming New Coronavirus Variant Is Democratic Plot

In a recent tweet, former White House doctor Dr. Ronny Jackson is now claiming the new COVID-19 variant omicron is a midterm election ploy by the Democrats. The Morning Joe panel discusses.
See...this is why I don't criticize biden. Don't want to get mistaken for those dipshits.
 

injinji

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Far Right Now Claiming New Coronavirus Variant Is Democratic Plot

In a recent tweet, former White House doctor Dr. Ronny Jackson is now claiming the new COVID-19 variant omicron is a midterm election ploy by the Democrats. The Morning Joe panel discusses.
I've said all along that Joe Rob is an evil genus. By telling the GOP the jab is safe and effective, he is insuring they will not take it. Now with this new variant, it will just be a matter of time before we are back to 900 Republican voters a day dying.
 
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