January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

hanimmal

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WASHINGTON (AP) — In an abrupt reversal, an attorney for former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows said his client will not cooperate with a House committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection, citing a breakdown in negotiations with the panel.

Attorney George Terwilliger said in a letter Tuesday that a deposition would be “untenable” because the Jan. 6 panel “has no intention of respecting boundaries” concerning questions that former President Donald Trump has claimed are off-limits because of executive privilege. Terwilliger also said that he learned over the weekend that the committee had issued a subpoena to a third-party communications provider that he said would include “intensely personal” information.

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Terwilliger said in a statement last week that he was continuing to work with the committee and its staff on a potential accommodation that would not require Meadows to waive the executive privileges claimed by Trump or “forfeit the long-standing position that senior White House aides cannot be compelled to testify” before Congress.

“We appreciate the Select Committee’s openness to receiving voluntary responses on non-privileged topics,” he said then.

A spokesperson for the panel did not have immediate comment on Terwilliger’s letter. The committee’s chairman, Mississippi Rep. Bennie Thompson, said last week that Meadows had been engaging with the panel through his attorney, producing records and agreeing to appear for an initial deposition.

Thompson said the committee would “continue to assess his degree of compliance with our subpoena after the deposition.” He has said that any witnesses who don’t comply will be held in contempt of Congress.

In halting cooperation, Terwilliger also cited comments from Thompson that he said unfairly cast aspersions on witnesses who invoke their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. A separate witness, former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark, has said he will invoke those Fifth Amendment rights.

“As a result of careful and deliberate consideration of these factors, we now must decline the opportunity to appear voluntarily for a deposition,” Terwilliger wrote in the letter.

The reversal comes as Meadows has been receiving attention for a new book, released Tuesday, which revealed that Trump received a positive COVID-19 test before a presidential debate and was far sicker than the White House revealed at the time.

Trump — who told his supporters to “fight like hell” before hundreds of his supporters broke into the Capitol and stopped the presidential electoral count — has attempted to hinder much of the committee’s work, including in an ongoing court case, by arguing that Congress cannot obtain information about his private White House conversations.
 

printer

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Judge sets July trial date in Bannon case
U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols said during a pretrial hearing that while he was not convinced by federal prosecutors' efforts to accelerate the schedule, he did not believe that a trial should wait for nearly a year, as Bannon's defense team had argued

While Nichols's scheduling order did not give the defense as much time to prepare as they asked for, the summer trial date could hamper the select committee's ability to get information out of the one-time Trump White House strategist.

The judge indicated on Tuesday that he would allot about two weeks of time for the trial, meaning that it could wrap up in early August, just three months before the 2022 midterms.
 

Guitar Man

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i don't know how old you are, i'm guessing mid 30s at the latest, probably under 30...it's easy to be cynical when you're younger, the older you get the more empathy you develop, the more you start to finally see both sides of shit, the more you realize you've been wrong you're whole life.
there are horrible people in the world, who will take a vow and break it, who will write rules and break them, who will promise to represent the people who elect them, and then forget all about them, instead playing the game of thrones, the game of houses, hoping to gain some real power...
then, there are people who go into public office because it seems important to them to see to it that some sensible laws get passed, that people who have amassed huge fortunes while giving their workers as little as they can get away with get held to account, that want to stop monolithic corporations from buying other politicians, so they can continue to pollute, abuse, misrepresent... not everyone in government is a fat pig snuffling in the mud for bribes and influence. not everyone in government is happy to be part of a country whose leaders play at empire building...figure out who is who, and get behind them
and fuck you guys who are going to give me shit about telling someone else to not be cynical :D
I'm 61 years old, been married 41 years, have raised 3 incredible kids, have since 6 grandchildren, have been self employed for most of my entire career and currently run a very successful business that I started from scratch 18 years ago, spent 6 years in the Marines, lived in Alaska, California, Washington, and North Carolina, and even pastored a church for 20 years, building it from the ground up (during my religious stint in life). I've been around the block, more than once. And I grow fantastic fucking weed! I'm also an athlete, take no fucking meds, and I'm actually a nice guy. And, I don't watch the fucking news! I stay informed, but not by sitting in front of a TV while CNN, FOX, CBS, and all of the other media outlets pour out their constant negative bullshit that does nothing but go in circles. I have better things to do.

And I never joined Rollitup to talk politics, and quite frankly, I think it's sad that people do. But hey, what the fuck. And I strummed through this Thread watching everyone plow Trump under the bus. Shit, you want to see an insurrection, go back to 1861. Not only did countless motherfuckers die in the Civil War, the Confederates almost took over the White House and wanted to oust and kill Lincoln, which eventually did happen. This little protest, where a guy dressed up like a fucking bull, stealing a lectern is a fucking joke. And if this was a real Civil War, there would have been dead bodies everywhere.

And I'm so tired of people dropping Trump bombs, while a lunatic is in the White House running our Country. If this is the best the Democrats can do, and people keep voting for these left wing whackos, we are in deep shit. We are the laughing stock of the World and our enemies are going bonkers building up their military while this weak ass crazy fucker is taking a nap. Biden hasn't done jack shit in his 40 year political career. Go ahead, name one major accomplishment. Look at the circus at the Southern Border. Look at inflation. Look at the tax and spend spree the Democrats want to take this Country on. Like I said, we better wake the fuck up or this great Country will see an actual Civil War.
 

CunningCanuk

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I'm 61 years old, been married 41 years, have raised 3 incredible kids, have since 6 grandchildren, have been self employed for most of my entire career and currently run a very successful business that I started from scratch 18 years ago, spent 6 years in the Marines, lived in Alaska, California, Washington, and North Carolina, and even pastored a church for 20 years, building it from the ground up (during my religious stint in life). I've been around the block, more than once. And I grow fantastic fucking weed! I'm also an athlete, take no fucking meds, and I'm actually a nice guy. And, I don't watch the fucking news! I stay informed, but not by sitting in front of a TV while CNN, FOX, CBS, and all of the other media outlets pour out their constant negative bullshit that does nothing but go in circles. I have better things to do.

And I never joined Rollitup to talk politics, and quite frankly, I think it's sad that people do. But hey, what the fuck. And I strummed through this Thread watching everyone plow Trump under the bus. Shit, you want to see an insurrection, go back to 1861. Not only did countless motherfuckers die in the Civil War, the Confederates almost took over the White House and wanted to oust and kill Lincoln, which eventually did happen. This little protest, where a guy dressed up like a fucking bull, stealing a lectern is a fucking joke. And if this was a real Civil War, there would have been dead bodies everywhere.

And I'm so tired of people dropping Trump bombs, while a lunatic is in the White House running our Country. If this is the best the Democrats can do, and people keep voting for these left wing whackos, we are in deep shit. We are the laughing stock of the World and our enemies are going bonkers building up their military while this weak ass crazy fucker is taking a nap. Biden hasn't done jack shit in his 40 year political career. Go ahead, name one major accomplishment. Look at the circus at the Southern Border. Look at inflation. Look at the tax and spend spree the Democrats want to take this Country on. Like I said, we better wake the fuck up or this great Country will see an actual Civil War.
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printer

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And I never joined Rollitup to talk politics, and quite frankly, I think it's sad that people do. But hey, what the fuck. And I strummed through this Thread watching everyone plow Trump under the bus. Shit, you want to see an insurrection, go back to 1861. Not only did countless motherfuckers die in the Civil War, the Confederates almost took over the White House and wanted to oust and kill Lincoln, which eventually did happen. This little protest, where a guy dressed up like a fucking bull, stealing a lectern is a fucking joke. And if this was a real Civil War, there would have been dead bodies everywhere.
Whether guns are fired to change the will of the people or a megalomaniac uses his supporters to change the result of an election it is the same thing.

IT IS DEMOCRACY STOLEN AS BAD AS ANY DICTATOR IN A BANANA REPUBLIC.

Not sure why you can not see the gravity of treating democracy as a think only valued if you win.
 

maxamus1

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Yep he failed so bad. They even walked them into the building and only shot one of the protesters. Those evil people going where their told to go.
 

Fogdog

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I'm 61 years old, been married 41 years, have raised 3 incredible kids, have since 6 grandchildren, have been self employed for most of my entire career and currently run a very successful business that I started from scratch 18 years ago, spent 6 years in the Marines, lived in Alaska, California, Washington, and North Carolina, and even pastored a church for 20 years, building it from the ground up (during my religious stint in life). I've been around the block, more than once. And I grow fantastic fucking weed! I'm also an athlete, take no fucking meds, and I'm actually a nice guy. And, I don't watch the fucking news! I stay informed, but not by sitting in front of a TV while CNN, FOX, CBS, and all of the other media outlets pour out their constant negative bullshit that does nothing but go in circles. I have better things to do.

And I never joined Rollitup to talk politics, and quite frankly, I think it's sad that people do. But hey, what the fuck. And I strummed through this Thread watching everyone plow Trump under the bus. Shit, you want to see an insurrection, go back to 1861. Not only did countless motherfuckers die in the Civil War, the Confederates almost took over the White House and wanted to oust and kill Lincoln, which eventually did happen. This little protest, where a guy dressed up like a fucking bull, stealing a lectern is a fucking joke. And if this was a real Civil War, there would have been dead bodies everywhere.

And I'm so tired of people dropping Trump bombs, while a lunatic is in the White House running our Country. If this is the best the Democrats can do, and people keep voting for these left wing whackos, we are in deep shit. We are the laughing stock of the World and our enemies are going bonkers building up their military while this weak ass crazy fucker is taking a nap. Biden hasn't done jack shit in his 40 year political career. Go ahead, name one major accomplishment. Look at the circus at the Southern Border. Look at inflation. Look at the tax and spend spree the Democrats want to take this Country on. Like I said, we better wake the fuck up or this great Country will see an actual Civil War.
You have it backwards.

The Old South never had a chance during the Civil War. Their hope was that people of the North would decide war to preserve the Union was not worth the cost. They were wrong about that, among other things. Same with the shit going down today. The invasion and sacking of our Capitol Building was a failure in that Trump did not manage to overturn our election and murder his enemies. As with the South's violent attempt at secession, after they failed on Jan 6, it became necessary to use the might and will of the US government to ensure this does not happen again.

Too bad for you it hurts your feelings.
 

hanimmal

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I'm 61 years old, been married 41 years, have raised 3 incredible kids, have since 6 grandchildren, have been self employed for most of my entire career and currently run a very successful business that I started from scratch 18 years ago, spent 6 years in the Marines, lived in Alaska, California, Washington, and North Carolina, and even pastored a church for 20 years, building it from the ground up (during my religious stint in life). I've been around the block, more than once. And I grow fantastic fucking weed! I'm also an athlete, take no fucking meds, and I'm actually a nice guy. And, I don't watch the fucking news! I stay informed, but not by sitting in front of a TV while CNN, FOX, CBS, and all of the other media outlets pour out their constant negative bullshit that does nothing but go in circles. I have better things to do.

And I never joined Rollitup to talk politics, and quite frankly, I think it's sad that people do. But hey, what the fuck. And I strummed through this Thread watching everyone plow Trump under the bus. Shit, you want to see an insurrection, go back to 1861. Not only did countless motherfuckers die in the Civil War, the Confederates almost took over the White House and wanted to oust and kill Lincoln, which eventually did happen. This little protest, where a guy dressed up like a fucking bull, stealing a lectern is a fucking joke. And if this was a real Civil War, there would have been dead bodies everywhere.

And I'm so tired of people dropping Trump bombs, while a lunatic is in the White House running our Country. If this is the best the Democrats can do, and people keep voting for these left wing whackos, we are in deep shit. We are the laughing stock of the World and our enemies are going bonkers building up their military while this weak ass crazy fucker is taking a nap. Biden hasn't done jack shit in his 40 year political career. Go ahead, name one major accomplishment. Look at the circus at the Southern Border. Look at inflation. Look at the tax and spend spree the Democrats want to take this Country on. Like I said, we better wake the fuck up or this great Country will see an actual Civil War.
Sounds like you got radicalized with whatever online spam you read enough to think that last paragraph makes sense outside of a right wing information bubble. Which is easy since you seem to tick a lot of boxes of people we know are under attack from the right wing propagandists.

One thing? It would be easy to say the violence against women, or the victims right to speak at a sentencing hearing, child sex predator registration, hell even the assault rifle ban, but I will go more recent and name the largest infrastructure investment in American history that was just passed. After 4 years of the last guy saying he would get it done every week, it really is a pretty big deal.
 

canndo

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This Thread is rampant with nothing but biased bullshit that has been fabricated by the MSM. Wake the fuck up and realize we are the fucking puppets and they pull the strings. Politics has always been, and always will be, a place of broken promises, corrupt politicians, and people who don't give a rats ass about you and I. You can dog Trump all you want, who's done plenty of bad shit, while FJB is taking a nap and beating off while reading a teleprompter. Our Government is fucked and you pawns are bloody stupid to follow these idiots who've drawn you into a narrative that is floundering in the piss of these Media giants who want to tear this Country apart. When it comes down to it, it's all about the money fuckers.

But in reality, those who toss a blanket of distrust and disgust over the entirety of "gubmint" are the ones that are playing directly into the hands of Republicans.

"They are all bums and I'm not going to play along " is the very sentiment the right is seeking to evoke.

Those who are now certain that proper government can accomplish nothing of value are the ones who will see to it that government fails and in so doing doom us all to very very bad government from here on.
 

canndo

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I'm 61 years old, been married 41 years, have raised 3 incredible kids, have since 6 grandchildren, have been self employed for most of my entire career and currently run a very successful business that I started from scratch 18 years ago, spent 6 years in the Marines, lived in Alaska, California, Washington, and North Carolina, and even pastored a church for 20 years, building it from the ground up (during my religious stint in life). I've been around the block, more than once. And I grow fantastic fucking weed! I'm also an athlete, take no fucking meds, and I'm actually a nice guy. And, I don't watch the fucking news! I stay informed, but not by sitting in front of a TV while CNN, FOX, CBS, and all of the other media outlets pour out their constant negative bullshit that does nothing but go in circles. I have better things to do.

And I never joined Rollitup to talk politics, and quite frankly, I think it's sad that people do. But hey, what the fuck. And I strummed through this Thread watching everyone plow Trump under the bus. Shit, you want to see an insurrection, go back to 1861. Not only did countless motherfuckers die in the Civil War, the Confederates almost took over the White House and wanted to oust and kill Lincoln, which eventually did happen. This little protest, where a guy dressed up like a fucking bull, stealing a lectern is a fucking joke. And if this was a real Civil War, there would have been dead bodies everywhere.

And I'm so tired of people dropping Trump bombs, while a lunatic is in the White House running our Country. If this is the best the Democrats can do, and people keep voting for these left wing whackos, we are in deep shit. We are the laughing stock of the World and our enemies are going bonkers building up their military while this weak ass crazy fucker is taking a nap. Biden hasn't done jack shit in his 40 year political career. Go ahead, name one major accomplishment. Look at the circus at the Southern Border. Look at inflation. Look at the tax and spend spree the Democrats want to take this Country on. Like I said, we better wake the fuck up or this great Country will see an actual Civil War.

Ever think that your business was settled if precariously on a base of good government? Hmm? You have a sound dollar, predictable and reasonable legal system, a constant infrastructure and customers who are relatively unafraid of their society. This is spawned and perpetuated by government. No one so far needs to "grease" the palms of local officials or some gang that promises fireworks should your payments be late.

Laughing stock? I think it possible that your purposeful avoidance of information and current events might have blinded you to the antics of Mr trump on the international stage.

I'll fill you in if I must.

Do you need to be reminded of our reason less trade wars that were labeled as "easy to win" as we subsidized farmers and steel manufacturers with billions of dollars that mr trump assured us all were being paid for by China.

Weak? Biden is holding the line against putting as I type whole mr trump buckled before that Russian who took Russian side at every single opportunity even giving away other countries secrets in the oval office.

Mr trump deserves all the scorn heaped upon him and more.

See, the right demands absolute polarity. If I hate trump I must therefore idolize biden. And true to their adolescent perspective, if one so much as tolerates trump he must therefore be worshiping biden.

Most of us don't keep those sorts of ideologies
 

maxamus1

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See, the right demands absolute polarity. If I hate trump I must therefore idolize biden. And true to their adolescent perspective, if one so much as tolerates trump he must therefore be worshiping biden.

Most of us don't keep those sorts of ideologies
Really cause your conrards in arms hold other to that ideology
 
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