Another gun thread

CatHedral

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In an open society, government relies upon apparent interest in public safety. It also must never appear too arbitrary or cruel. In the u.s. every incident that results in death is a big deal. Kill students in a college, things change. Burn children alive in Waco, things change regardless of the actual threat to that government and her people.

But offer a way for government to manipulate her citizens without the death and blood part and most onlookers will just accept the action as necessary and "humane". Now a government that can disburse a crowd, peaceful demonstrators or not and we tacitly support a more and more totalitarian government because they haven't really harmed anyone.
I am reminded of the involuntary hysterectomies at our southern border under the previous administration. That way lies a familiar horror to this German speaker.
 

canndo

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I have never had such intense responses. For me, neither a wondergun nor a Lambo ever touched my erotic circuitry. So I am perhaps a bit hindered here.
Example: I delight in upscale stargazing optics. They are beautiful as a choral piece from Ravel is. But while sublime, these things never recruited my endocrine. Not sexy.

Well, it could have been the blow...


But likely not.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Hadn't thought of him in relation to this...."theory" of mine. But indeed, he is a classic example.

I don't hold that all gun owners are swayed by their posession. But I have a story. In the days just before the cartels gained control over most of the cocain in the Americas I started seeing more guns at exchanges. Mostly cheap things at first and of course "mine is better, see?"

But one day a fellow dealer brought along his fully functioning uzi. I remember picking it up, I remember it being far heavier than I expected, I remember asking him how to operate the thing, it seemed so foreign. But what I remember most was the feeling of incredible power, of invincibility that I felt. It frightened me. That feeling was intoxicating and dangerous to me and everyone I was near. I never felt that way before, even operating the replica gatling gun my grandfather and I built.

Long afterward I read a study of testosterone levels increased by the mere handling of a firearm.

Gun as talisman. You and our friends posting here are likely adapted to some of that attraction. Rittenhouse? Maybe not.
just because holding an uzi gave you an erection doesn't mean everyone else reacts the same way. you seem to have this idea that you know what everyone feels and thinks, and i think you're wrong, i think you're projecting, heavily.
 

Budley Doright

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Oookaaaayyy-
So I’m not allowed to call
Methylenedioxymethamphetamine(MDMA)-
“Meth”??

Also- does street Speed not affect the brain in a similar (near-identical) way as Adderall or MDMA?

Honestly not sure what your point is.
But I’m not going to tell you what’s real or not as you are obviously much more educated than me, and to do so would be authoritarian:confused:;)bongsmilie
All I know is they’ve added a letter since I was 20 lol.
 

canndo

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just because holding an uzi gave you an erection doesn't mean everyone else reacts the same way. you seem to have this idea that you know what everyone feels and thinks, and i think you're wrong, i think you're projecting, heavily.

It was a story as example, of course my experiences are different but the point is the same....


 

Budley Doright

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I haven’t tried them, but I have the inventor Shulgin’s book. He describes them as pretty different.
Ya got pretty fucked up a few times :O! That and ketamine were amazing trips and didn’t last 14 hours like some acid trips :(. I was a recreational pharmacist starting in my late teens lol. Then cocaine became popular and that was a shitty time :(. To many got caught on that one. Then came oxy and meth and that really fuck things up. So ya anyone who says drugs are all the same is just not telling the truth as I know it.
 

CatHedral

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Ya got pretty fucked up a few times :O! That and ketamine were amazing trips and didn’t last 14 hours like some acid trips :(. I was a recreational pharmacist starting in my late teens lol. Then cocaine became popular and that was a shitty time :(. To many got caught on that one. Then came oxy and meth and that really fuck things up. So ya anyone who says drugs are all the same is just not telling the truth as I know it.
Ketamine. Kryptonite. Love that evil stuff.
 

canndo

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Ya got pretty fucked up a few times :O! That and ketamine were amazing trips and didn’t last 14 hours like some acid trips :(. I was a recreational pharmacist starting in my late teens lol. Then cocaine became popular and that was a shitty time :(. To many got caught on that one. Then came oxy and meth and that really fuck things up. So ya anyone who says drugs are all the same is just not telling the truth as I know it.

Hey, I never said all drugs are the same. I said that people tend to condemn drugs they personally don't use in moralistic ways.

"I only smoke weed, but you snort blow so you are reprehensible and a drain on society".

I heard my father condemning pot heads over his third tumbler of dewars. I know still, reputable stock brokers who relaxed with a few xanax condemning mushroom users.

Gets old and so long as we make those who fail at managing their drug of choice the prime examples of the drug itself then we are lying to ourselves.
 
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CatHedral

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Hey, I never said all drugs are the same. I said that people tend to condemn drugs they personally don't use in moralistic ways.

"I only smoke weed, but you snort blow so you are reprehensible and a drain on society".

I heard my father condemning pot heads over his third dewars. I know still, reputable stock brokers who relaxed with a few xanax condemning mushroom users.

Gets old and so long as we make those who fail at managing their drug if choice the prime examples of the drug itself then we are lying to ourselves.
I get what you mean. Moralizing one drug over another fails.
 

canndo

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I fear that I’m too old. And I’m cleft from my earlier facilities. Hemp and yeast must do.

I can help sir. Mda? Don't bother, ketamine? Too late. Pcp? Let it go. Acid? Worth a second look.

Cocaine? Forget about it for the most part but your knowledge of organic chemistry might redeem you if you set to reconstituting it.

Mushrooms? Pan cyan or nothing at all.

Methaqualone? Have at it.

Opiates? Well... we can talk.

You had meth, not much value unless you are a housewife with an urge to clean under your kitchen sink.

Adrenochrome is where it's at dude, torture yourself a 6 year old under a pizza parlor and cut that gland out, you won't regret it.
 
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