Aerocloners unite!!!

[Return of the Spork]

Is the temp being too cold really an issue? Granted the temps across the world vary a lot but I am borderline too warm, which is where the gunk is coming from really. Thankfully my cloner seems to stay clean, however I would definitely like to see how the other options work.

The stems on my girls appear to start getting that gnarled bubbly blister look, so I am expecting some progress soon, better get some I am tired of trying. Today is the start of Day 6.

 

[grandpabear3]

I have been experimenting the rapid rooter plugs myself. Success is on the better end with those. This weekend I tried cutting a hole in my bubble cloner and stuffing a RR plug in it. So far so good.

i started with rr plugs and still have some. i love em', the h2o2 breaks them down slowly and can cause pump issues. so i ended up making my aerocloner and using them as home made inserts....had to cut em down to size but it worked. i bought 2" net pots cut the bottom out of them and got the neo inserts and my res stays spakling clear now.

I was thinking about why aerocloners work better than other methods?

i like the way you be thankin'

One thing I have been trying to understand is why clones in aerocloners do not need a humidity tent.

it's magic .....duh

If I put some clones in coco or RR plugs I need a humidity tent

that's because organic media is from the devil

but in the same grow box I can but some clones in a bubbler and they do not need anything to keep them from wilting.

because the good lord smiles down upon a sterile grow.

So I have a few ideas and was curious what you guys thought:

i try not to think too often.

1) There is a small amount of humidity that escapes an aerocloner that mists the cuttings.

nope.....not unless something is wrong with your cloner.

2) The stems in an areocloner are able to absorb enough water to support the plant.

damn skippy

3) Something about it makes the plant transpire less.
opinions? 1,2 or 3? Some other reason?

mine transpire pretty darn often but i cut my leaves in half to cut down on it.

Also an update on the UV Sterilizer. I lost 3 out of 7 clones, (week 2) but I think I damaged those putting the UV thing in the coner. The white stuff is still there but seems to decreasing. Since the white stuff was expanding rapidly before putting the UV dohicky in I would have to guess it is working to control it.

I also was considering putting a carbon filter in the cloner. It seem like they sell litttle ones for fish tanks that are powered by a air pump. I guess carbon filters pull organic stuff out.

When I clean out my bubble cloner and start over next time I think I will use the UV sterilizer, Carbon filter, and a water heater, Maybe by purifying the watter I will be able to run the thing hotter and get roots quicker?

man, that is gonna be one sick ass cloner set up. we gotta see that when its done.

Is the temp being too cold really an issue? Granted the temps across the world vary a lot but I am borderline too warm, which is where the gunk is coming from really. Thankfully my cloner seems to stay clean, however I would definitely like to see how the other options work.

The stems on my girls appear to start getting that gnarled bubbly blister look, so I am expecting some progress soon, better get some I am tired of trying. Today is the start of Day 6.

damn...day 6 ....mine took 17 this time but i got sweet fishbones now. i'm workin my way down to 7-9 days if possible. it's been a long road....lol

 

[hoots123]

do your clones all lean over like there DEAD? lol my 9 clones 3 of them are still kinda standing but i think its been 6 days?? and none have roots.. i have a bad feeling about them too..

if i just stuck them in water glass would they root even??

 

[Return of the Spork]

I have not noticed any wilt or sag or anything in the aerocloner.

In a bubbler I had some major sag, but with some recovery.

In RW all I had was sag.

You would be amazed the shit that does work for some people but doesn't work for everyone. Some people do use the straight water method, but I think there is always a pro/con to any of the rooting methods. If I was soil I get the feeling this would be a whole lot simpler.

Anyways your best bet is to post a pic of your setup and go over the whole list.

Water Temp, Light Leaks, Slime, Air Temp, humidity, How you are cutting them, sterility, watering schedule, how fine your mist is, etc.

Some people can get away with half assing it all, and some of us need to keep everything perfect to get results. You might be one of the unfortunate ones.

 

[grandpabear3]

Ya, like me...lol

 

[grandpabear3]

due to a power surge or the fact that god hates me my1000w hps blew again only this time it blew up and out sending glowing hot shards o' glass all over my newly dehumidified room wich was super duper dry........a small fire ensued burning my wooden bud dryer my burber carpet caught next then the foam sealant i used to fill gaps and cracks that let air in....that stuff sure is good kindling. ha ha ha, omfg people....close to 8000.00 invested and almost 100% of it destroyed. ya i was around when it happened and yes i have/had a fire extinguisher i went to grab it but my wife had moved it and didnt tell me.....she wasnt home.....i bailed water out of my tubs and finally got the hose.....my neighbor, who seen the smoke came runnin' with a fire extinguisher. by the time i knew this he was behind me, helping. it was out a minute later and he just said....wow, man.....i knew it! fuckin cool! how long you been growing? i was like wtf ru serious? my room and part of my garage and an outside wall of the house is burnt pretty badly. i ripped everything out....neighbor helped.....and threw it all on the burn pile and lit that bitch and watched my hard work go up in smoke....even if not in the intended way. i will rebuild but it wont be for about 6 months or longer. thanks to everyone for their guidance and input. wish i could delete my pics now........makes me sad.

wife is against me growing now so we'll see. oh and the fuckin cloner made it out without so much as a smudge. i hate that thing. i'm gonna shoot holes in it today.

i'll be back, gottA wait till tax time now. good luck to everyone and i hope you have better luck than me.

on the bright side i made a new buddy next door.......oh joy
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[purpdaddy]

due to a power surge or the fact that god hates me my1000w hps blew again only this time it blew up and out sending glowing hot shards o' glass all over my newly dehumidified room wich was super duper dry........a small fire ensued burning my wooden bud dryer my burber carpet caught next then the foam sealant i used to fill gaps and cracks that let air in....that stuff sure is good kindling. ha ha ha, omfg people....close to 8000.00 invested and almost 100% of it destroyed. ya i was around when it happened and yes i have/had a fire extinguisher i went to grab it but my wife had moved it and didnt tell me.....she wasnt home.....i bailed water out of my tubs and finally got the hose.....my neighbor, who seen the smoke came runnin' with a fire extinguisher. by the time i knew this he was behind me, helping. it was out a minute later and he just said....wow, man.....i knew it! fuckin cool! how long you been growing? i was like wtf ru serious? my room and part of my garage and an outside wall of the house is burnt pretty badly. i ripped everything out....neighbor helped.....and threw it all on the burn pile and lit that bitch and watched my hard work go up in smoke....even if not in the intended way. i will rebuild but it wont be for about 6 months or longer. thanks to everyone for their guidance and input. wish i could delete my pics now........makes me sad.

wife is against me growing now so we'll see. oh and the fuckin cloner made it out without so much as a smudge. i hate that thing. i'm gonna shoot holes in it today.

i'll be back, gottA wait till tax time now. good luck to everyone and i hope you have better luck than me.

on the bright side i made a new buddy next door.......oh joy
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Damn that must have been an experience i never want go through.MAn lucky that the whole house catching fire.HID lighting is dangerous.
Sorry to hear about that bro.

 

[Styl!st07]

due to a power surge or the fact that god hates me my1000w hps blew again only this time it blew up and out sending glowing hot shards o' glass all over my newly dehumidified room wich was super duper dry........a small fire ensued burning my wooden bud dryer my burber carpet caught next then the foam sealant i used to fill gaps and cracks that let air in....that stuff sure is good kindling. ha ha ha, omfg people....close to 8000.00 invested and almost 100% of it destroyed. ya i was around when it happened and yes i have/had a fire extinguisher i went to grab it but my wife had moved it and didnt tell me.....she wasnt home.....i bailed water out of my tubs and finally got the hose.....my neighbor, who seen the smoke came runnin' with a fire extinguisher. by the time i knew this he was behind me, helping. it was out a minute later and he just said....wow, man.....i knew it! fuckin cool! how long you been growing? i was like wtf ru serious? my room and part of my garage and an outside wall of the house is burnt pretty badly. i ripped everything out....neighbor helped.....and threw it all on the burn pile and lit that bitch and watched my hard work go up in smoke....even if not in the intended way. i will rebuild but it wont be for about 6 months or longer. thanks to everyone for their guidance and input. wish i could delete my pics now........makes me sad.

wife is against me growing now so we'll see. oh and the fuckin cloner made it out without so much as a smudge. i hate that thing. i'm gonna shoot holes in it today.

i'll be back, gottA wait till tax time now. good luck to everyone and i hope you have better luck than me.

on the bright side i made a new buddy next door.......oh joy

WTF bugs, glad that u where not hurt, but damn doode cant believe it.

What made the light blow up? U said that this is the second one to blow. I have no idea that a power surge could do that.

U must have have allot of juice flowing thru small extention cord that could not handle the large amp's and high voltage.

Please give us any info that might help other so we dont have the same messtakes and burn down sumthing eles of cause sum kind of fires.

Im still kind of in shock from what i just read, it must be a dream!!!!

Bugs u get it all bak my friend, let this be a good lesson on how dangerous theese HID lights are, but dont let it keep u from growing. Just make sure next time to have all ur t's crossed and every thing need to be that much bigger and better.

$8,000 is allot of money on this project hopefully u have at least sumthing that u can salvage in all this mess.

Good luck to u bugs, u will be back and better than b4.

I think it's time to bring out the big blunt leafs and roll a fatty.

I will have a bowl myself cuz Im still like, WTF happened

- Styl!st

 

[Return of the Spork]

That totally blows, shit, I say go find some clones and CFL it so you at least have something coming in until you can restart. Might be worth learning some electrical work and doing it from the ground up, har.

Was your light plugged into a surge protector? Was it a magnetic or digital ballast? Any clue how many Amps are being pulled through that specific breaker?

My setup is in two cabinets so I have some minor protection from a starting flame. Have a smoke detector and a fire extinguisher real close, with no wife to move it lol.

 

[sparkafire]

First off i want to tell you that i feel for you buddy thats a bad way to go down. If anything you still have your house.


BUT i cant let this go down without me kicking you, what would everyone think?. LOL

Its kinda hard to be creative when your bro just got lit up like a candle. Who am i gonna fuck with now?? this sucks

 

[marchold]

due to a power surge or the fact that god hates me my1000w hps blew again only this time it blew up and out sending glowing hot shards o' glass all over my newly dehumidified room wich was super duper dry........a small fire ensued burning my wooden bud dryer my burber carpet caught next then the foam sealant i used to fill gaps and cracks that let air in....that stuff sure is good kindling. ha ha ha, omfg people....close to 8000.00 invested and almost 100% of it destroyed. ya i was around when it happened and yes i have/had a fire extinguisher i went to grab it but my wife had moved it and didnt tell me.....she wasnt home.....i bailed water out of my tubs and finally got the hose.....my neighbor, who seen the smoke came runnin' with a fire extinguisher. by the time i knew this he was behind me, helping. it was out a minute later and he just said....wow, man.....i knew it! fuckin cool! how long you been growing? i was like wtf ru serious? my room and part of my garage and an outside wall of the house is burnt pretty badly. i ripped everything out....neighbor helped.....and threw it all on the burn pile and lit that bitch and watched my hard work go up in smoke....even if not in the intended way. i will rebuild but it wont be for about 6 months or longer. thanks to everyone for their guidance and input. wish i could delete my pics now........makes me sad.

Who Man. That is the worst news ever. I had never heard of a light exploding like that. That fire very well could have gotten the attention of the cops. The fact that it did not is in fact lucky.

wife is against me growing now so we'll see. oh and the fuckin cloner made it out without so much as a smudge. i hate that thing. i'm gonna shoot holes in it today.

My wife would not let me grow if we had a fire. She was pretty against it at first but she accepted. Now that it has been a few years and she has started to enjoy the buds she is more ok with it. It would not take much to change it.

Mind if I ask what brand of light/ballast you use?

 

[grandpabear3]

Who Man. That is the worst news ever.

we aim to please.

I had never heard of a light exploding like that.

that makes 2 of us

That fire very well could have gotten the attention of the cops. The fact that it did not is in fact lucky.

couldn't agree more....but i live in the woods

My wife would not let me grow if we had a fire.

if you gag her with a dirty sock.....while givin her the ol filthy sanchez (you know ass fuckin then pop a finger in there and get you some finger paint, then wipe a dirty brown mustache across her teeth) or the ol rusty trombone (again with the ass pounding...i know, i know, i have issues...then you feed her the ol "rusty" "tromBONE"...hehehehe) that should keep her in line and make her more receptive to your needs.

seriosly....i'm awesome.!!!

She was pretty against it at first but she accepted. Now that it has been a few years and she has started to enjoy

what anal?

the buds she is more ok with it. It would not take much to change it.

oh...oops, i get it now

Mind if I ask what brand of light/ballast you use?

the agro sun or star sum shit....ballast and bulb. well the bulb blew then i replaced it with the ol 72 dollar model.....oops

That totally blows, shit, I say go find some clones and CFL it so you at least have something coming in until you can restart. Might be worth learning some electrical work and doing it from the ground up, har.

i was an electrician for a while and everything has its own 20 amp service line...i did that right, i think it was the cheap ass bulb.

Was your light plugged into a surge protector?

yes

Was it a magnetic or digital ballast?

magnetic

Any clue how many Amps are being pulled through that specific breaker?

only as many as that lamp can pull.....i forget but around 9-12 i think.
My setup is in two cabinets so I have some minor protection from a starting flame. Have a smoke detector and a fire extinguisher real close, with no wife to move it lol.

ahhh a lil cruel but funny

WTF bugs, glad that u where not hurt, but damn doode cant believe it.

What made the light blow up? U said that this is the second one to blow. I have no idea that a power surge could do that.

U must have have allot of juice flowing thru small extention cord that could not handle the large amp's and high voltage.

Please give us any info that might help other so we dont have the same messtakes and burn down sumthing eles of cause sum kind of fires.

Im still kind of in shock from what i just read, it must be a dream!!!!

Bugs u get it all bak my friend, let this be a good lesson on how dangerous theese HID lights are, but dont let it keep u from growing. Just make sure next time to have all ur t's crossed and every thing need to be that much bigger and better.

$8,000 is allot of money on this project hopefully u have at least sumthing that u can salvage in all this mess.

Good luck to u bugs, u will be back and better than b4.

I think it's time to bring out the big blunt leafs and roll a fatty.

I will have a bowl myself cuz Im still like, WTF happened

- Styl!st

see above....lol

tyhanks for the kind thoughts

 

[Styl!st07]

First off i want to tell you that i feel for you buddy thats a bad way to go down. If anything you still have your house.


BUT i cant let this go down without me kicking you, what would everyone think?. LOL

Its kinda hard to be creative when your bro just got lit up like a candle. Who am i gonna fuck with now?? this sucks

Fuck'n Sparkfire, always good for a laugh....

Now its time for a bowl

- Styl!st

 

[Return of the Spork]

Guess who still doesn't have roots. I got rid of half of the ones I took originally because some were starting to not do so well. I then went ahead and took another small bunch slightly different. Two weeks on the originals, it looks like they want to root just not quite there...but they have looked like that for a week. But I will continue to wait. If by Sat there is nothing then I will either sterlilize and redo, or wait longer depending how they look.

 

[grandpabear3]

welcome to my world. now all you need is a good old fashioned natural disaster and your at my level of suckatudeness.

 

[Styl!st07]

welcome to my world. now all you need is a good old fashioned natural disaster and your at my level of suckatudeness.

How are thing now bugs?

Hope u give it another go here soon, one good look at thoose purple nugs and that wood do it...........

Guess who still doesn't have roots.

Me and U.

I got rid of half of the ones I took originally because some were starting to not do so well. I then went ahead and took another small bunch slightly different. Two weeks on the originals, it looks like they want to root just not quite there...but they have looked like that for a week. But I will continue to wait. If by Sat there is nothing then I will either sterlilize and redo, or wait longer depending how they look.

I forget if u are runnig ur pump 24/7 or not? I heard from a good friend the other day, he said that i need to have a cycle timer to let the roots chase the water and to let them dry out of a few mins then back on again.

Once he told me that i reminded my of STinkbud and his Cap cycle timer and the way he setd his cloner to 1min ON and 5min OFF. I think this might be the trick cuz from what my hommie said that need to a lil so the have time to root. He said if if the pump stay on 24/7 they wont root cuz they have no time to when the pump is running 24/7 and giving them a lil time to dry they eill start to chase the water.

Just wanted to add my 2 cents, i know there are sum ppl here that leave there pump on 24/7 and still get roots but that does not work for everbody. This lil info might help otheres thats why i though i wood post it cuz ppl like me could use it.

I still have no roots but im will to try everything i can to get sum. I have had the worse luck with seeds and clones, I feel like a dumb ass and need to be held back a few grades so i can katchup.

- Styl!st

 

[hoots123]

no success with my cloner all have died.. i will try again next time with a cycle timer not sure what cycle though all i tried was with stim root and ph'd water in a aerocloner

8/8 dead

 

[Return of the Spork]

Yeah it is a bummer. My mothers are growing great, my flowering plant looks juicy and the only thing holding me back are these clones.

I run 15on 30off at the moment. No signs of wilting or sagging in the down period. I don't feel like that would be the answer, but it might be.

If I am forced to take another pass soon, I am going to flush the mothers and spray the leaves to supposedly reduce N content in them.

 

[anhedonia]

Got some hygrozyme to take care of the slime in my aero cloner and it caused a different kind of buildup in the res, allover parts and spinner. Again no roots after 16 days. I threw out the clones cleaned the thing out and I'll sell it for $50 OBO.

Im getting a rainforet 6 site cloner and try that out. The daisy cloner is made hella cheap. Does any one have experience with rainforests?

 

[marchold]

Got some hygrozyme to take care of the slime in my aero cloner and it caused a different kind of buildup in the res, allover parts and spinner. Again no roots after 16 days. I threw out the clones cleaned the thing out and I'll sell it for $50 OBO.

I have been experimenting with a UV sterilizer. And it completely removes the slime. I still am non have great success rate but I did find the with the UV sterilizer I can run my water rez temp at 85 with no slime at all.

Also if your areo-cloner has pump, roughneck tub, and ez-clone sprayers. I might be intrested in buying it from you. I was going to build one and the parts would be useful for this.