January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

DIY-HP-LED

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'I'm Very Worried': What Really Happened On The Eve Of The Insurrection

MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell looks at the concern coming from Trump allies before the events of January 6, 2021, and details what the Jan. 6th Select Committee has revealed about the events the night before the Capitol insurrection.
 

schuylaar

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Let's see. I think we all agree on the laws pertaining to cannabis. I think we all agree on the Trump fiasco. I like to think those are just scratching the surface. I bet we could find other things if we tried instead of looking for the things we do not agree on. Maybe I am a little to hopeful but I believe there is good on both sides. Which I must say I don't identify as either republican nor democrat.
please define Trump fiasco; you gave me two examples of what you 'think' we agree on. kind of sad there are only two that come to mind? both of which are debatable. then everything else falls into the category of disagree? those are bad odds for reconciliation.
 

C. Nesbitt

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what about the 500 plus “peaceful” riots that burnt businesses down to the ground. Doesn’t count huh?
Two things. First you really should to catch up on the thread a bit if you’re going to jump in here, the specific post you replied to is from 6 so months ago.
Also, starting off with “what about” is not going to play well, you might want to rethink your approach if you are going to participate in Politics…
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Joe: We Should Look Past The Mobs To The Architects Of Jan. 6

On the anniversary of the deadly Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, the Morning Joe panel discusses the mobs that stormed the Capitol and the architects behind the attack along with where the Republican Party is one year later.
 

GreauxFast

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Two things. First you really should to catch up on the thread a bit if you’re going to jump in here, the specific post you replied to is from 6 so months ago.
Also, starting off with “what about” is not going to play well, you might want to rethink your approach if you are going to participate in Politics…
yet….here you are!!!!!
 

CatHedral

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You want me to define socialism,communism and leninism. First I must be honest I do not know the proper meaning of leninism. Would have to look that one up. As far as the other 2 we all know what they mean. At least I hope we do. If not I can use dictionary on my phone and share the definitions. But you do have me on leninism. I can not say anything about that subject without it being misinformed or a down right lie.
We don’t, as the Conservapedia entries show. They misdefined the first two terms, and don’t describe Leninism as fascism, which it is just as much as fascism from the notional right.

The fact that you used right-wing alt-fact of a variety very familiar to many here makes having a transparent discussion hard.
 

jimihendrix1

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what about the 500 plus “peaceful” riots that burnt businesses down to the ground. Doesn’t count huh?
Its been proven tthat many who burned buildings during BLM protests were Right Wing Infiltrators, and they also went to the protests to antagonize the BLM protesters.

Boogaloo Boi’ charged in fire of Minneapolis police precinct during George Floyd protest
Ivan Harrison Hunter, a Texas rightwing extremist, bragged about helping to set the fire then was seen shooting 13 rounds at the building.

Officials Say White Supremacists Infiltrated Black Lives Matter Protest in Richmond to Instigate Riots

“There were white supremacists marching under the banner of Black Lives Matter, attempting to undermine an otherwise overwhelmingly peaceful movement towards social justice,” said Mayor Levar Stoney during a Sunday news conference

FBI Director Christopher Wray recently told a congressional panel that extremists driven by white supremacist or anti-government ideologies have been mainly responsible for most deadly attacks in the U.S. over the past few years. He said that antifa is more of an ideology or a movement than an organization. Its tue that some leftists have been responsible for looting, property damage, and arson, but by far most of the damage comes from far wight extremist groups infiltrating mostly peaceful BLM protests.

LEAKED DOCUMENTS SHOW POLICE KNEW FAR-RIGHT EXTREMISTS WERE THE REAL THREAT AT PROTESTS, NOT “ANTIFA”
An analysis of leaked law enforcement documents reveals an obsession with “antifa” despite evidence of threats of violence to police and protesters.
AS PROTESTS AGAINST police violence spread to every state in the U.S. and dramatic images flooded in from cities across the country, President Donald Trump and his attorney general spun an ominous story of opportunistic leftists exploiting a national trauma to sow chaos and disorder. They were the anti-fascists known as “antifa”, and according to the administration they were domestic terrorists who would be policed accordingly.

But while the White House beat the drum for a crackdown on a leaderless movement on the left, law enforcement offices across the country were sharing detailed reports of far-right extremists seeking to attack the protesters and police during the country’s historic demonstrations, a trove of newly leaked documents reveals.

Among the steady stream of threats from the far-right were repeated encounters between law enforcement and heavily armed adherents of the so-called boogaloo movement, which welcomes armed confrontation with cops as means to trigger civil war. With much of the U.S. policing apparatus on the hunt for antifa instigators, those violent aspirations appear to have materialized in a string of targeted attacks in California that left a federal protective services officer and a sheriff’s deputy dead and several other law enforcement officials wounded.

The cache of law enforcement materials was recently hacked and posted online under the title “BlueLeaks,” providing an unprecedented look at the communications between state, local, and federal law enforcement in the face of the nationwide protests. In an analysis of nearly 300 documents that reference “antifa,” The Intercept found repeated instances of antifa and left-wing protesting activities cast in cartoonishly grim terms alongside more substantive reports of lethal right-wing violence and threats that have received scant mention from top Trump administration officials.

“Throughout the documents you see counterterrorism agencies using extremism so broadly as to mean virtually anything that encompasses dissent,” Hina Shamsi, director of the ACLU’s National Security Project, told The Intercept. “There are instances in which people engaging in white supremacist violence get the benefit of the doubt as potential lone offenders, while people of color and those who dissent against government injustice are smeared as threats with guilt by association.”

Right-Wing Extremism Is Still the Biggest Threat to National Security
 
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