January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

captainmorgan

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Former press secretary Stephanie Grisham says on CNN that about a dozen former Trump aides are currently discussing how they can “formally do some things to try and stop him” and plan to meet next week. She declines to say who, but says there are “about 15” of them.
 

subwax

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Would it be fair to say that life in America is getting harder and harder? It seems to me that racism and right wing activities are getting worse and worse. I remember a time when America was the jewel of the planet, where life was ideal. I dont think that is the case any more - perhaps the polar opposite.

Not saying any other country is better - just postulating a theory that religion and politics have really ruined a great country.
 
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CatHedral

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Would it be fair to say that life in America is getting harder and harder? It seems to me that racism and right wing activities are getting worse and worse. I remember a time when America was the jewel of the planet, where life was ideal. I dont thin that is the case any more - perhaps the polar opposite.

Not saying any other country is better - just postulating a theory that religion and politics have really ruined a great country.
I would say that the reporting of racism and right-wing activities is going up, revealing what was there all along.

The one place where I, as a low-income white male, am hit hard is the economy. There has been an undeclared inflation for perhaps 20 years now, and for the 99% not at the top, standard of living has been going down.
 

Herb & Suds

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Would it be fair to say that life in America is getting harder and harder? It seems to me that racism and right wing activities are getting worse and worse. I remember a time when America was the jewel of the planet, where life was ideal. I dont thin that is the case any more - perhaps the polar opposite.

Not saying any other country is better - just postulating a theory that religion and politics have really ruined a great country.
My first thought
Brexit :oops:
 

subwax

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I would say that the reporting of racism and right-wing activities is going up, revealing what was there all along.

The one place where I, as a low-income white male, am hit hard is the economy. There has been an undeclared inflation for perhaps 20 years now, and for the 99% not at the top, standard of living has been going down.
That is sad to hear - i have a lot of American friends, and its really sad to hear them speak in unfavourable terms about the country they once loved.
 

Herb & Suds

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Brexit is a good shout - that has polarised the British society - I cant quite see it in the same way as racism in the US though, to be fair. Its bad, but it aint that bad.
Racism is only a minority percentage who are loud and proud on the web
And it gets amplified by leaders and media who see dollar bills
Don’t believe the nonsense this country is 50/50 cause those we believe that are in for a rude awakening if civility falls
 

subwax

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Racism is only a minority percentage who are loud and proud on the web
And it gets amplified by leaders and media who see dollar bills
Don’t believe the nonsense this country is 50/50 cause those we believe that are in for a rude awakening if civility falls
I'll respectfully choose to disagree completely with your statement - just one look at the news will show LOADS of incidents of racial tension in the US. Its doesn't appear to me to be a minor percentage at all. I grew up in South Africa in the 1970's - I have seen pure evil racism first hand, and am starting to see the same traits all over again, in the US. The police seem to me to be completely racist, which most definitely takes me back to seeing some terrible things done to children by the very people that were supposed to be protecting them. How can you trust a US police officer any more? Talking about the colour of a person's skin also reminds me of my childhood - it was THE thing that would decide your fate. We all bleed the same, there's no difference.

Edit - I know that not all coppers are bad people, but a bad apple ruins the basket, as the saying goes.
 

OG-KGP

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Racism is only a minority percentage who are loud and proud on the web
And it gets amplified by leaders and media who see dollar bills
Don’t believe the nonsense this country is 50/50 cause those we believe that are in for a rude awakening if civility falls
Youre right. The majority are silent.

Joe Rogan has 11 million views on his pod cast while CNN has 0.82 million.

 

Herb & Suds

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I'll respectfully choose to disagree completely with your statement - just one look at the news will show LOADS of incidents of racial tension in the US. Its doesn't appear to me to be a minor percentage at all. I grew up in South Africa in the 1970's - I have seen pure evil racism first hand, and am starting to see the same traits all over again, in the US. The police seem to me to be completely racist, which most definitely takes me back to seeing some terrible things done to children by the very people that were supposed to be protecting them. How can you trust a US police officer any more?

Edit - I know that not all coppers are bad people, but a bad apple ruins the basket, as the saying goes.
Well since you don’t actually live here in rural America I’ll give your observation all the attention it’s due
 

CatHedral

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That is sad to hear - i have a lot of American friends, and its really sad to hear them speak in unfavourable terms about the country they once loved.
Oh I still love this country. What I do not love is its systematically being stripped of wealth and power to benefit the uppermost class.

As for speaking in unfavorable terms, if they are true or likely true, are you suggesting a benefit in not speaking out?
 

subwax

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Well since you don’t actually live here in rural America I’ll give your observation all the attention it’s due
As is your right to do so.

Does make me think though - you mentioned Brexit - if you're from the US, then you're doing the same thing I am, so no real room to talk.

If you are from the UK, you're making comments about US politics - again, snacks a tad of hypocrisy.

So I am left wondering what right you think you've got to make comments like that, based on the fact that from either direction, you have no room to talk, as doing so will be hypocritical.

You have no idea where I live, or have lived, or my life experience, so I think I’ll give your observation all the attention it’s due too.

Finally, this is a public forum, so I will say what I want without consideration to your so called sensibilities. If you cant take the heat ....
 

C. Nesbitt

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It looks like the clown show is coming to an end, finally.
I’m probably going to catch grief again for being jaded, but I don’t have high hopes that any of them, Don, Don Jr. or Ivanka ultimately get convicted of anything regarding either the Trump organization or inciting the 1/6 insurrections. They will leave a trail of underling carnage behind like always, but that family seems to be able do whatever the hell they want and get away with it. Hoping that proves to be wrong.
The fact that after 1/6/2021 Trump still holds immense power over the Republican Party and most besides Liz Cheney are like “nothing to see here, move along” is absolutely mind blowing.
 

OG-KGP

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As is your right to do so.

Does make me think though - you mentioned Brexit - if you're from the US, then you're doing the same thing I am, so no real room to talk.

If you are from the UK, you're making comments about US politics - again, snacks a tad of hypocrisy.

So I am left wondering what right you think you've got to make comments like that, based on the fact that from either direction, you have no room to talk, as doing so will be hypocritical.

You have no idea where I live, or have lives, or my life experience, sso I think I’ll give your observation all the attention it’s due too.

Finally, this is a public forum, so I will say what I ant without consideration to your so called sensibilities. If you cant take the heat ....
Don't worry, the political threads are full of Canadians who love to bash the USA too. Its just what they do.
 
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