January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

[Fogdog]

Brexit is a good shout - that has polarised the British society - I cant quite see it in the same way as racism in the US though, to be fair. Its bad, but it aint that bad.

As a US citizen, my eyes and ears are used to hearing the bigoted statements made by Brexit supporters coming from US racists. Probably not racism but we are only talking about a difference in shading. There is a rise in fascism worldwide that is threatening democracies around the world, not just the US. Witness India and Eastern Europe.

What's going on in the US isn't driven by racism and politics. We've always had that. Over the past 40 years, productivity gains have gone entirely to the wealth class while hidden inflation eroded the middle class until they hardly even exist any more. IMO, Fascism and influence from the wealthy class are driving the division we now see. That and Russian cyber ops opportunistically hyping the homegrown discord.

 

[OG-KGP]

I had a better article but can not find the link right now. This one may do though.

The toxic relationship between Rush Limbaugh and Christian radio networks

The 1990s Christian radio ecosystem played a crucial role in enabling Limbaugh and conservative talk radio.

www.vox.com

Isn't Rush dead and Christianity in America dying too?

 

[OG-KGP]

What's going on in the US isn't driven by racism and politics. We've always had that. Over the past 40 years, productivity gains have gone entirely to the wealth class while hidden inflation eroded the middle class until they hardly even exist any more.

I agree. A common enemy.

 

[subwax]

As a US citizen, my eyes and ears used to hearing the bigoted statements made by Brexit supporters as racism. Probably not racism but we are only talking about a difference in shading. There is a rise in fascism worldwide that is threatening democracies around the world, not just the US.

What's going on in the US isn't driven by racism and politics. We've always had that. Over the past 40 years, productivity gains have gone entirely to the wealth class while hidden inflation eroded the middle class until they hardly even exist any more. IMO, Fascism and influence from the wealthy class are driving the division we now see. That and Russian cyber ops opportunistically hyping the homegrown discord.

I would agree - right wing voters most definitely voted for Brexit, as they wanted the foreign people out. As a result, now we're struggling with getting jobs filled, like lorry drivers, NHS workers, and even fruit pickers - jobs that people from Europe did before Brexit. Its causing more and more chaos now, and I believe it time, it will be seen as a huge mistake, which cost the country dearly.

Like I said before - we are not perfect either.

 

[printer]

I've heard Canada referred to as America Lite - is that right?

Canadians absorb a lot of US culture due to being right next door. You could drop a Canadian in the US or an American in Canada and they can get along fine. But Canada has its own history and beliefs (like not believing the government is corrupt and we need our firearms to combat it one day) and due to accepting a large number of immigrants we have a better world view. Summed up we do not feel we are the best nation in the world (there may be one or two that are better unlike many Americans who think the US is better than everyone else.

Isn't Rush dead and Christianity in America dying too?

That is why the right is trying to manufacture their 'democratic' wins as they are on a down hill run.

 

[Fogdog]

Isn't Rush dead and Christianity in America dying too?

Yes Rush is dead. He was dying 10 years ago. He managed to do a lot of harm on his way out. Like Evangelical Christianity is doing today.

 

[subwax]

But Canada has its own history and beliefs (like not believing the government is corrupt and we need our firearms to combat it one day) and due to accepting a large number of immigrants we have a better world view. Summed up we do not feel we are the best nation in the world (there may be one or two that are better unlike many Americans who think the US is better than everyone else.

I do love Canada, to be fair - my sister-in-law lives in Toronto. Tim Horton's French Vanilla is my idea of a drink heaven!

 

[CatHedral]

Isn't Rush dead and Christianity in America dying too?

Like any dying monster, it thrashes dangerously.

 

[subwax]

Isn't Rush dead and Christianity in America dying too?

Isn't Christianity dying everywhere though? There doesn't seem to be a need for it any more - great tool to control the uneducated, but no real reason to still have it, right? Education standards re FAR higher now than 200 years ago,

Every year sees the wedding figures decrease here, same with christenings. Sunday services are only attended by old folk - soon, there will be nobody to preach to. I've even read recently that councils are looking to repurpose churches, as at the moment, they are just empty buildings.

 

[Fogdog]

I would agree - right wing voters most definitely voted for Brexit, as they wanted the foreign people out. As a result, now we're struggling with getting jobs filled, like lorry drivers, NHS workers, and even fruit pickers - jobs that people from Europe did before Brexit. Its causing more and more chaos now, and I believe it time, it will be seen as a huge mistake, which cost the country dearly.

Like I said before - we are not perfect either.

I wasn't criticizing Britain in my post. I'd put the UK well ahead of the US in terms of social equity and democracy.

I was using Brexit and the political rhetoric used to win the vote as an example of what's going on worldwide right now. It could be that the US struggles over race AND class is why there is a rise in fascism around the world but I'm guessing the US is caught up in the same social and economic trends that are worldwide and the struggle is hotter here due to our own provincial issues with race and class.

 

[OG-KGP]

Isn't Christianity dying everywhere though? There doesn't seem to be a need for it any more - great tool to control the uneducated, but no real reason to still have it, right? Education standards re FAR higher now than 200 years ago,

Every year sees the wedding figures decrease here, same with christenings. Sunday services are only attended by old folk - soon, there will be nobody to preach to. I've even read recently that councils are looking to repurpose churches, as at the moment, they are just empty buildings.

Good riddance.

 

[Fogdog]

Isn't Christianity dying everywhere though? There doesn't seem to be a need for it any more - great tool to control the uneducated, but no real reason to still have it, right? Education standards re FAR higher now than 200 years ago,

Every year sees the wedding figures decrease here, same with christenings. Sunday services are only attended by old folk - soon, there will be nobody to preach to. I've even read recently that councils are looking to repurpose churches, as at the moment, they are just empty buildings.

not quickly enough

 

[subwax]

Good riddance.

Too right!!!!

 

[OG-KGP]

I'd put the UK well ahead of the US in terms of social equity and democracy.

That's a blank statement being they are not nearly as diverse. Or is because we accept the monarchy? Ruled by inbred whites off bloodline and not policy.

Hence there is no racism in countries that don't have multiple ethnic groups but still have classes of society.

It would be like me moving to Nigeria with nothing, then bitching about me not being treated fairly because I'm poor and white..

Imagine pulling that shit in another country, you would be dead in a day.

 

[CunningCanuk]

I do love Canada, to be fair - my sister-in-law lives in Toronto. Tim Horton's French Vanilla is my idea of a drink heaven!

You must like sugar. Next time you come to Toronto try the Beiber Balls, you’ll love ‘em.

 

[CunningCanuk]

That's a blank statement being they are not nearly as diverse. Or is because we accept the monarchy? Ruled by inbred whites off bloodline and not policy.

Hence there is no racism in countries that don't have multiple ethnic groups but still have classes of society.

It would be like me moving to Nigeria with nothing, then bitching about me not being treated fairly because I'm poor and white..

Imagine pulling that shit in another country, you would be dead in a day.

This was meant as a joke, right?

 

[OG-KGP]

This was meant as a joke, right?

Interpretation is subjective. So is humor.

 

[CunningCanuk]

Interpretation is subjective. So is humor.

If you were serious, you’re still the joke.

 

[OG-KGP]

If you were serious, you’re still the joke.

Don't take everything so personal. You're the Canadian that hangs out in the US politics section with an opinion on just about everything that doesn't relate to you. If I'm a joke, just laugh and move on. Ill do the same.

 

[Fogdog]

That's a blank statement being they are not nearly as diverse. Or is because we accept the monarchy? Ruled by inbred whites off bloodline and not policy.

Hence there is no racism in countries that don't have multiple ethnic groups but still have classes of society.

It would be like me moving to Nigeria with nothing, then bitching about me not being treated fairly because I'm poor and white..

Imagine pulling that shit in another country, you would be dead in a day.

What I said: I'd put the UK well ahead of the US in terms of social equity and democracy.

What you said: That's a blank statement being they are not nearly as diverse.

What I said doesn't match your characterization. Then you knocked down your straw man and beat it soundly. I don't know if you did it intentionally or you jumped to a conclusion but I feel no obligation to respond further to your fallacy.