Lollipopping before flowering?

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Neoliet

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Samwell Seed Well said:
I've worked directly with more than a few breeders.

The only standard you or any persons popping a seed can garrutnee is day of flip.

I've popped 1000s of seeds worked for, tested for, and did promotions/logistics and for a number of breeders when that's what I did.

That's what they did

greenbeanseedz, exotic genetics, pnwroots, gage green and a number of others I'm going from how they asked me to report my testing and what made it i
onto the packaging...

Idk any Europeans breeders
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Okey cool! .. But I dont not understand what you are saying with << Day of flip no longer how breeders mark photo peroid /s...it's now day of pistils >> ????
 
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Markshomegrown said:
I have never tried mainlining my plants, I top, pull the shoots down, and flower as quick as I can.
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It's just medium stress training, I'm fairly confident you can get a similar response other ways...

But you can't so easily arrest height, if you have super height restrains and can veg for extra time, I.E if you have enough veg space to keep plants teed up, the extra veg time is meaningless for a preferred flower profile.

It's all about what your are expecting...

Design is function
 
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Samwell Seed Well said:
It's just medium stress training, I'm fairly confident you can get a similar response other ways...

But you can't so easily arrest height, if you have super height restrains and can veg for extra time, I.E if you have enough veg space to keep plants teed up, the extra veg time is meaningless for a preferred flower profile.

It's all about what your are expecting...

Design is function
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You can get the same results from topping, pulling the shoots down, and thinning the plants out in early flower.
I have kept short flowering strains, taken cuttings first week in flower, rooting clones takes 20 days, 4 weeks veg and flower.
split the flower room in 2 so I can dry the buds out in half the flower room(near intake hole, cool air in) and flower the plants off, the other side.
10 days later when the buds are dry, the plants get all the flower room, which works pretty well.
 
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Markshomegrown said:
You can get the same results from topping, pulling the shoots down, and thinning the plants out in early flower.
I have kept short flowering strains, taken cuttings first week in flower, rooting clones takes 20 days, 4 weeks veg and flower.
split the flower room in 2 so I can dry the buds out in half the flower room(near intake hole, cool air in) and flower the plants off, the other side.
10 days later when the buds are dry, the plants get all the flower room, which works pretty well.
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Good thing for neo to do on his next grow if neo chooses...

I do an entirely different thing, to also get the response I want..it all in the choices of the grower...pop by my active journal..the structure I get is from defoilation and topping/fiming/pruning the right biomass

Being the same as everyone else...boring
 
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Neoliet

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Markshomegrown said:
you want to keep the canopy level and remove the lower side shoots as they grow, suckers will slow the growth of the larger shoots.
this is going to be fun
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My lowest growtip is this one: see picture. this will be a part of the cola, right? Are there any lower side shoots coming up ???516BB5D9-3142-4D7F-9A85-CFCD30579F25.jpeg
 
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Day 0 from dome
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Day1-5 depending on health I strip to 2 leaves, and do this once a week each week.

I top around wk 2 and stop defanning around the end of wk4 when they will go into bloom

Day 28

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My grow is time is money, shorter the life of a plant has before harvest while yielding a max amount per plant space... production is different then hobby
 
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Neoliet said:
My lowest growtip is this one: see picture. this will be a part of the cola, right? Are there any lower side shoots coming up ???View attachment 5064373
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you see the little shoots coming off the main stem(well large side branch)
That is where the buds will first start to grow (looks like 2 white hairs)

These side shoots will become the stretched shoots in 2 weeks time, the plants will need these shoots for the next 7-10 days
removing any growth at this stage will slow the plants down.
 
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rkymtnman

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Samwell Seed Well said:
Day 0 from dome
View attachment 5064376

Day1-5 depending on health I strip to 2 leaves, and do this once a week each week.

I top around wk 2 and stop defanning around the end of wk4 when they will go into bloom

Day 28

View attachment 5064377View attachment 5064378
My grow is time is money, shorter the life of a plant has before harvest while yielding a max amount per plant space... production is different then hobby
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do you guys have to do a strict plant count from veg to harvest? they are really strict in CO. it's monitored from seed to harvest from what my comm'l buddy told me
 
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Neoliet

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Markshomegrown said:
you see the little shoots coming off the main stem(well large side branch)
That is where the buds will first start to grow (looks like 2 white hairs)

These side shoots will become the stretched shoots in 2 weeks time, the plants will need these shoots for the next 7-10 days
removing any growth at this stage will slow the plants down.
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So, starting week 3 you advise to cut them of ?
 
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