Is this foxtailing & is it a bad thing??

Bullmark

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So I’m growing my first indoor plants. 3 autos under a HLG 320w LED running about 80% intensity at 25” above canopy. 3G pots w/ FFOF and have given various levels of Fox Farms bloom nutes + cal mag since flowering began.
The plant shown is 10 days younger than the other 2, but started flowering the same time. It’s a totally different pheno…shorter, darker green leaves, and heavier more dense nuggets.
She’s in week 12 (since seed) and looks to have some number of weeks left….maybe 2? Likely 3? But I’ve noticed a distinct way the calyces are growing on this plant only. To me it looks like a classic foxtail. Honestly last week it looked closer to being ready than it does today. Calyces are big and heaving out thick ropes of white hairs. But back to the foxtail….it’s not just the tops. All the buds, top To bottom are showing the same pattern.
I grew a fair amount outside a long time ago, mostly all the same strain and a majority were clones, and none of it ever looked like this.
Shoot, I think it looks killer. I just thought someone with more experience might shed some light on the subject. Thanks to everyone.
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Bullmark

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Here's a fair example of "bad" foxtailing. Look at these calyces just floating in mid-air like David Blaine doing a fucking magic trick, LOL.
I like the “knuckled up” look. I have 5 more seeds from that pack….super skunk auto. The other two are fine but more sativa leaning. Lighter green, thinner blades leaves and more of a cotton candy consistency, although very frosty and way more dense than they look in the pic… I hope I get more of the knuckled pheno in the last 5 seeds. 920344F8-6B65-4A1E-83AD-E811C93A0306.jpeg
 

Bullmark

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20 years ago I had cut of Apollo 13 that did the same under perfect conditions . I'd give my left nut to get that cut back .
In all my yrs of growing outdoors the only plants I chopped that still had white pistils were ones where there were “circumstances beyond my control” and and it was either chop them a week or two early or lose them forever. They still smoked OK but not what it could have been.
At the rate this plant is moving, it’ll be a month or longer before all those white hairs recede or change color.
I’ve looked at the trichs and probably 60% are cloudy and 40% clear……the only ambers were way out on a few sugar leaves…..deep inside and on the calyces are still close to 50/50.
Hopefully she’ll be one of those that just kicks it into high gear all of a sudden and all those white hairs will change within a weeks time….
Maybe I’m too old school but I refuse to chop a plant showing that many white pistils regardless of what the trichomes look like.
 

A.k.a

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Light/heat stress foxtails from my first plant.

I’ve only grown a handful of strains but they all got those little knobs or knuckles at the end.
 

TheWholeTruth

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Over feeding some bloom boosters can do that too. H&G had a heavy pk based one that would put out a completely new layer of almost foxtails on a almost ripe plant. You would have bud that was almost ready an then this new layer of twists with fresh white pistols would grow on top of it. Sometimes heat can cause it or very high light levels. Just something to be aware of.
 

PadawanWarrior

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So I’m growing my first indoor plants. 3 autos under a HLG 320w LED running about 80% intensity at 25” above canopy. 3G pots w/ FFOF and have given various levels of Fox Farms bloom nutes + cal mag since flowering began.
The plant shown is 10 days younger than the other 2, but started flowering the same time. It’s a totally different pheno…shorter, darker green leaves, and heavier more dense nuggets.
She’s in week 12 (since seed) and looks to have some number of weeks left….maybe 2? Likely 3? But I’ve noticed a distinct way the calyces are growing on this plant only. To me it looks like a classic foxtail. Honestly last week it looked closer to being ready than it does today. Calyces are big and heaving out thick ropes of white hairs. But back to the foxtail….it’s not just the tops. All the buds, top To bottom are showing the same pattern.
I grew a fair amount outside a long time ago, mostly all the same strain and a majority were clones, and none of it ever looked like this.
Shoot, I think it looks killer. I just thought someone with more experience might shed some light on the subject. Thanks to everyone.
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Sounds like a genetic thing.
 

Bullmark

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I have been very light with the nutes. I did feed Tiger Bloom and Big Bloom (Fox Farms), but just a fraction of what their feeding schedule calls for. At the time I got this wave of swollen calyces and thick hairs I had only given them water w/ a little molasses and some banana peel tea.
I’ve had my light cranked at times but about a month ago I turned it down a notch and raised it. So I can’t imagine light stress has been a problem.
I will say that my temps have never been extreme but they have been erratic. I only recently learned that the optimal air temp for my LED is low 80s. Prior to that I generally kept things in the 70s…..but it hardly ever stayed the same temp for longer than an hour.
Probably the silliest stress they’ve had is dog hair. I have a very furry golden retriever and she sheds like no other. I’ve never seen an animal that loses hair like she does and although she doesn’t really hang out in the room where the grow closet is located, her hair finds it’s way everywhere. Well every time I look at the plants I see another hair, or ten. Some I can pluck off easily but others are literally stuck to the buds. I’m doing more damage removing them than just leaving until I harvest.
Unfortunately in the last 3 days I’ve found 2 nanners…..I plucked and prayed. I don’t know much about that end of things, but I’m hoping with only a couple weeks left to go I can just ride it out. I know they are stress related. You live and learn.
As for the smell, it’s really weird. About 3 weeks ago they were smelling strong. Very gassy with citrus and skunk. But recently I have to actually touch one of the buds to smell it. The one thing I’m not worried about at all is the quality and aesthetics of this bud. It’s gonna smoke and taste amazing…..the smell is pure power and the trichs are thick and just stacked.
i just hope it finishes before summer….and doesn’t end up full of seeds.
 

Bullmark

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Light/heat stress foxtails from my first plant.

I’ve only grown a handful of strains but they all got those little knobs or knuckles at the end.
Can I ask what light you’re running?? And did it take those buds forever to finish?? I can’t imagine how long it’s gonna take for those extra thick white pistils to recede.
That bud you grew may look a little different but I don’t mind the knuckled look….and it certainly looks dank…
 

A.k.a

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It was actually just a cheap 100w Chinese led.

that was an auto so at night I would move it from the main room to a different spot with the cheap light which was only a few inches over the buds. Plus it was summer and like 95F even at night.

It did take a really long time. But I also had been over feeding it too. I was pretty much told it was ok to ignore the new pistils on the foxtails and just focus on the normal ones.

Ended up taking 3-4 weeks longer than the other one of the same strain although it was also a different pheno so who knows.
 
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