On the verge of giving up!!!!

[lusidghost]

In my opinion the admins are too lenient with extremely toxic behavior around here. There's a small group of d-bags who need to get a straight ban; things would lighten up considerably.

I used to play an online Matrix game. I was on a server where once you got to a minimal level, which was really low, you could be attacked by other players. So while you were doing a mission, a pack of jerks would come out of nowhere, kill you, screw up your mission, and laugh at you while you laid there. If you complained they would stalk you and savagely mock you every time you died. Every low level player complained about it. Then WoW came out and all of those ganker thug guys jumped ship. Shortly after that the game died. People leveled up easily, maxed out, and then just sat around and chatted as the numbers slipped away. At that point I realized drama was a huge part of the appeal. You needed a bad guy to keep it exciting. Bad guys also allow good guys to do their good guy thing.

How long do you really think people will sit around and field the same questions before they grow bored and move on?

 

[PadawanWarrior]

I used to play an online Matrix game. I was on a server where once you got to a minimal level, which was really low, you could be attacked by other players. So while you were doing a mission, a pack of jerks would come out of nowhere, kill you, screw up your mission, and laugh at you while you laid there. If you complained they would stalk you and savagely mock you every time you died. Every low level player complained about it. Then WoW came out and all of those ganker thug guys jumped ship. Shortly after that the game died. People leveled up easily, maxed out, and then just sat around and chatted as the numbers slipped away. At that point I realized drama was a huge part of the appeal. You needed a bad guy to keep it exciting. Bad guys also allow good guys to do their good guy thing.

How long do you really think people will sit around and field the same questions before they grow bored and move on?

That's deep man

Hi all, yet again, same problem I always get during week 3/4 flower. Yellowing starts and takes over the plant usually within the next week. Basically been growing a few years now and every grow goes amazing through veg but as soon as I hit week 2/4 flower I start getting yellowing from the bottom. I used to think it was just nitrogen getting used up during the growth spurt but I have adapted and kept a low dose of nitrogen going untill week 2 of flower this run and still same issues. I'm growing a watermelon zkittles in a 12litre pot using bio bizz allmix and living soil dry amendments line. Water is PhD to 6.4( previous runs I've tried not pH ing the water and still same thing happens). Getting very disheartening now and am on the verge of just going back to buying. If anyone can help It would be greatly appreciate. It doesn't look much now but garenteed it will spread rapidly.

I grow in no-till soil, but I'm still learning this organic stuff. I see you're going down that road. I've been doing mostly top dressing with dry amendments. I don't know anything about Bio Bizz though. Good luck.

 

[lusidghost]

That's deep man

I grow in no-till soil, but I'm still learning this organic stuff. I see you're going down that road. I've been doing mostly top dressing with dry amendments. I don't know anything about Bio Bizz though. Good luck.

"I spit phrases that will thrill you. You're nobody 'til somebody kills you."

 

[PadawanWarrior]

"I spit phrases that will thrill you. You're nobody 'til somebody kills you."

 

[lusidghost]

I would never. I have nothing but love. Also I don’t consider you a troll, but everyone trolls a little. A little trolling is healthy.

 

[Markshomegrown]

That's deep man

I grow in no-till soil, but I'm still learning this organic stuff. I see you're going down that road. I've been doing mostly top dressing with dry amendments. I don't know anything about Bio Bizz though. Good luck.

My problem is I don't follow other growers, I do thigs my way now, been growing in soil for over 20 years, first 8 years was with Bio Bizz nutes, last few years I have been growing with cheap dry nutes local garden centre and starting to flower under 13w Philips LEDS

most large led panels and light spread is crap so I built my own, more on the outside less in the center

results so far from my very cheap cheap setup, week 5 12/12(today)
temps under led have been between 19-22c not idea but ok

here a bud pic for you and greenthumb,

 

[PadawanWarrior]

I would never. I have nothing but love. Also I don’t consider you a troll, but everyone trolls a little. A little trolling is healthy.

I'm glad at least someone doesn't think I'm a troll, lol.

 

[Greenthumbgrower1986]

Update today, last night was given 2ml bac bloom per litre (6-5-6) PhD to 6.4. light has been lowered to 15 inches aswell

 

[ComputerSaysNo]

If you complained they would stalk you and savagely mock you every time you died. Every low level player complained about it. Then WoW came out and all of those ganker thug guys jumped ship. Shortly after that the game died.

And WoW is still alive, now almost 20 years later... maybe goes to show the point.

Some friendly banter and drama is one thing, but psychopathic behavior just causes grief. I don't really enjoy watching some dim witted ass-clowns pile on somebody.

Also, not everybody wants to join a PvP environment; in WoW they gave you a choice (I chose PvE). Around here my only resort is the ignore button.

 

[Markshomegrown]

Update today, last night was given 2ml bac bloom per litre (6-5-6) PhD to 6.4. light has been lowered to 15 inches aswell

The ph is a little low, used to aim for 6.6-6.8
The bio bloom like water used to add 3ml per litre, used to give 3ml bloom, 1ml grow all the way in flower.(from week 3 12/12)
there was a fish bio bottle, think that was better than bio grow.
I would let the plants sit in a good amount of run off for 5-10 minutes
Get the root mass really soaked, dry, wet cycle is very important to the root mass.

 

[Nutty sKunK]

After watering the plants, I watch them for a good 5mins, if I have watered too soon you can see some leaves drop 2-3", some may curl, also cause the tips to claw.
When you get it spot on, the plants do not react in any way.

I can pour 100ml on a 5L pot stretching phase plant and it’ll droop or I can give it 750ml and it’ll droop. They seem to sense it but only at a certain age. Only around stretch phase do they tend to droop after watering, below is an example of 20hrs between watering. The plant didn’t drop like this until week 3ish. In fact it actually perked up after every watering.

Drooping is 1 of 2 things. Lack of oxygen (wet media) or water pressure being focused on root development.

That’s why plants can droop before their night cycle. They are focusing on their roots instead of their shoots. This behaviour ive noticed stops in early flower and then they don’t droop at all.

This is just my experience btw…

 

[Greenthumbgrower1986]

The ph is a little low, used to aim for 6.6-6.8
The bio bloom like water used to add 3ml per litre, used to give 3ml bloom, 1ml grow all the way in flower.(from week 3 12/12)
there was a fish bio bottle, think that was better than bio grow.
I would let the plants sit in a good amount of run off for 5-10 minutes
Get the root mass really soaked, dry, wet cycle is very important to the root mass.

Don't have bio bloom, last run I was using bac's so have loads left(npk is 6-5-6)

 

[McStrats]

The yellowing from bottom up is from lack of N during stretch. You can't reverse it, just learn from it.

 

[Greenthumbgrower1986]

The yellowing from bottom up is from lack of N during stretch. You can't reverse it, just learn from it.

If this is the case will the bloom I'm using not have enough in to stop it progressing

 

[Greenthumbgrower1986]

If this is the case will the bloom I'm using not have enough in to stop it progressing

So nothing can be done?

 

[Markshomegrown]

I can pour 100ml on a 5L pot stretching phase plant and it’ll droop or I can give it 750ml and it’ll droop. They seem to sense it but only at a certain age. Only around stretch phase do they tend to droop after watering, below is an example of 20hrs between watering. The plant didn’t drop like this until week 3ish. In fact it actually perked up after every watering.

Drooping is 1 of 2 things. Lack of oxygen (wet media) or water pressure being focused on root development.

That’s why plants can droop before their night cycle. They are focusing on their roots instead of their shoots. This behaviour ive noticed stops in early flower and then they don’t droop at all.

This is just my experience btw…View attachment 5069466View attachment 5069467

For the first 3 weeks in flower the rootmass is still growing, if the soil mix holds too much water at this stage the root will be satrated for a long periods of time, after the roots have filled the pots, they can absorb more water inturn the soil drys out quickly, so the shoots no longer drop, I add lots of sand and perlite into my soil mix so the soil hold less water, also use large pots. Same with feeding the plants, large pots hold more water so you give them less food per litre.

 

[Markshomegrown]

Don't have bio bloom, last run I was using bac's so have loads left(npk is 6-5-6)

Yeah, loads of Growers saying they need Nitrogen, that's the first one(n.p.k) don't add extra or you will really mess your plants up!
Plants in flower don't need high levels of Nitrogen, I would keep using this at 2ml per litre.
Still think this is down to underwatering the plants, but you want the ph between 6.5 and 6.9

 

[Nutty sKunK]

For the first 3 weeks in flower the rootmass is still growing, if the soil mix holds too much water at this stage the root will be satrated for a long periods of time, after the roots have filled the pots, they can absorb more water inturn the soil drys out quickly, so the shoots no longer drop, I add lots of sand and perlite into my soil mix so the soil hold less water, also use large pots. Same with feeding the plants, large pots hold more water so you give them less food per litre.

Shes nice and dry every 2 days. Can lift it with one hand no problem, in fact I might have to go every 36hrs as she had some moisture stress just on the first set of leaves today.

Been trying to find a way of watering less but more often to keep the soil in the golden range

 

[Markshomegrown]

So nothing can be done?

The plants will keep growing new leaves, so this will replace most the damaged leaves antill late flower

 

[Markshomegrown]

Shes nice and dry every 2 days. Can lift it with one hand no problem, in fact I might have to go every 36hrs as she had some moisture stress just on the first set of leaves today.

Been trying to find a way of watering less but more often to keep the soil in the golden range

It might not be down to how often you water, it could be down to the soil holding water for too long, you may need to add extra perlite or sharp sand into the soil mix next run.