Pandemic 2020

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Fogdog

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This is exactly why it’s healthy to start with “I know nothing and everything I think I know is quite possibiy not so”. Allows you to skip straight to “it’s starting to make sense“ and avoids doubling down on wrong. It’s at the second dot most people start anchoring their self-esteem to their knowledge, which makes the next two steps hard to reach. That’s where intellectual honesty comes into play. Once you’re on the segment of the path to the last dot, you‘ll realize knowledge comes from authoritative sources only and the democracy of knowledge is the start of idiocracy.
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We are at the "this is harder than it looks" part of the curve. Getting our asses kicked by a tiny bit of mRNA is humiliating.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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DIY-HP-LED said:
If they are all unvaxxed their convoy should peter out as it crosses the country, one by one they will get infected and drop out. They remind me of those antivaxx celebrities and hate radio jocks who catch covid and croak. If people want to run around in public with out a mask or vaccine, fuck them, the only issues I have is them clogging up the hospitals and pissing off the staff. In Canada tax payers foot the bill for these idiots, so I guess I care about the money wasted too, not to mention the vulnerable they needlessly infect.
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pretty much my attitude as well, i don't want them to do this shit because of all the innocent people they can infect, but if they drop dead while they're doing it, no big loss
 
DIY-HP-LED

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How do they suggest that the vaccine resistant get their first dose? Dart gun? There's always the omicron viral vaccine, but it clogs up hospitals. There should be an oral covid vaccine soon, or there was suppose to be one, perhaps that will help to get the numbers up.
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www.theguardian.com

UK Covid efforts should target unvaccinated, says expert

Vaccine expert says focus should shift away from booster programme and be directed to first doses
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DIY-HP-LED

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Another vaccine pill that could be an effective future booster. There are problems running the clinical trials of new covid vaccines because of new variants and most people are already vaccinated. The anti vaxxers and reluctant won't take experimental vaccines on clinical trial, shit they won't even take effective FDA approved vaccines!

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Vaxart oral Covid-19 vaccine: could trial execution obstacles delay market entry?

Oral Covid vaccine by Vaxart has obvious and potentially surprising advantages, but has many potential trial execution obstacles.
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Budley Doright

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They started here in NS, but I figure they are idiots and wasting their time, soon the government won't care about proof of vaccination, if I'm reading the tea leaves right. Once all the unvaxxed and a large number of the vaxxed have been infected with omicron, the government won't care. They will need POV if they want to cross the border, they can protest all they want about it.
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This convoy started in Alberta actually, they are heading east to Ottawa, go figure :(. And it’s just fucking stupid. There was a huge contingent of supporters waving them on ....... about 20 lol.
 
captainmorgan

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South Africa is starting a new wave of BA2. Scientists now say a omicron BA1 infections immunity may only last weeks and then you can get omicron BA2. Two covid infections in a month sounds great for the human body,fucking idiots, so much for herd immunity.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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South Africa is starting a new wave of BA2. Scientists now say a omicron BA1 infections immunity may only last weeks and then you can get omicron BA2. Two covid infections in a month sounds great for the human body,fucking idiots, so much for herd immunity.
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We will have herd immunity, but it won't be what people think, people will continue to get sick repeatedly, though not severely ill (they hope). It will be a long term immunity that kicks in after a time and it takes the body a bit of time to get up to speed, remember the antibodies and start cranking them out. Annual boosts should help quite a bit and so should the antiviral drugs that aren't affected by mutations like antibodies are. However they might limit the use of antiviral medications to allow people to develop natural immunity and only use them for those at risk and the elderly.

We can't look too far ahead with covid, there will be mutations and medical breakthroughs, there are already other vaccines, drugs and antibodies in testing. There are issues with vaccine testing moving forward because most people are vaxxed and the unvaxxed won't be test subjects!
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Incidence of new onset type 1 diabetes increased 57% among San Diego children in the first year of the pandemic!
Does that sound normal?
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There are kidney issues too as well as other organ problems in adults and no doubt adults will have diabetes issues too. That statistic is alarming though and needs further study, a big issue is the low vaxx rate among kids and the fact that under 5 can't be vaccinated yet. I would imagine the more serious the case the more likely they would develop complications and we know that vaccination among kids works very well to reduce serious or even symptomatic cases..
 
DIY-HP-LED

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Many peoples immune system will be damaged with each infection, it will eventually kill them. I've read the studies on other SARS viruses that do that very thing.
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That could be true, but it has been shown there is long term cross immunity with other coronaviruses and our immune systems remember previous infections of many diseases. We may still become ill while the remembered immune response kicks in though. It could also be a case of what doesn't kill ya makes ya stronger. If you end up in a hospital on a ventilator I imagine it will take a round or two out of ya, same for having part of your lungs fucked by covid. Covid appears to be a crap shoot, some people suffer serious consequences and others appear to be unscathed, but as you get older your odds get progressively worse.

If what you say is generally true for covid then waves of infection wouldn't pass as the population develops immunity naturally. The previously infected seem to have better outcomes with subsequent infections of other stains, just like the vaxxed do, according to a recent large study I posted here.
 
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