Extreme Defoliation...

[Markshomegrown]

I wouldn't take any more leaves off the plants

 

[budman111]

What a shame

It is, they left virtually zero fan leafs to photosynthesize, you're supposed to leave at least 25% of them to allow the rest to bulk up to normal size within a few weeks

 

[Markshomegrown]

It is, they left virtually zero fan leafs to photosynthesize, you're supposed to leave at least 25% of them to allow the rest to bulk up to normal size within a few weeks

Not sure this works in mid flower, works in early flower.
There fully developed buds on the stems.

 

[budman111]

There fully developed buds on the stems.

Means nothing, they still need a higher degree of leaf than is here to photosynthesize and grow bud to max potential, I defoliate flower day 1 and 21 and still have ample amount of leaf coverage

 

[.Smoke]

How far in flower is your plants?
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Guessing 4 weeks in flower looking at the bud

Day 20

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

I jumped on the bandwagon this round...
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You need more lights.

 

[Star Dog]

I'm on my third now thanks.

Try acting accordingly, 3rd grow lmao

 

[Herb & Suds]

I jumped on the bandwagon this round...
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Better than most

 

[Markshomegrown]

Means nothing, they still need a higher degree of leaf than is here to photosynthesize and grow bud to max potential, I defoliate flower day 1 and 21 and still have ample amount of leaf coverage

They have a higher chance of pulling around in early flower, at this stage they nave no chance.

 

[lusidghost]

This looked like this to me:

 

[steve870]

I don't defoliate unless there is a need for it

 

[.Smoke]

You need more lights.

Even coverage over the whole room @ 660w running @ 50% power.
The boards barely break a sweat.

Not a bad thing.

 

[Markshomegrown]

Even coverage over the whole room @ 660w running @ 50% power.
The boards barely break a sweat.

Not a bad thing.

Have you ever tried this before?
If you have, how did it turn out, have you got any pictures?
I can't see this having a happy ending but I hope I am wrong.

 

[ComfortCreator]

He likes a bit of banter and can rub people up the wrong way at times but it is funny when he winds the wrong person up and they give him shit for days on end.

You realize what you wrote is the definition of an internet troll?

 

[bk78]

You realize what you wrote is the definition of an internet troll?

Because he is one

 

[Shaded420]

@.Smoke has picked up the torch!

 

[.Smoke]

Have you ever tried this before?
If you have, how did it turn out, have you got any pictures?
I can't see this having a happy ending but I hope I am wrong.

I've done it in the past with a few plants. Journal link in my signature.

It's not something I usually do, but there's pro's and cons to defoliation. These plants will now grow differently than if I'd left them alone so I will have to make the necessary environmental/feed adjustments, but as long as that's taken into consideration these can thrive just as well if not better than if I left them alone. I'm only interested in harvesting tops this time around too.

Edit..
I'll post another picture in a few days after they recover.

 

[Markshomegrown]

You realize what you wrote is the definition of an internet troll?

Not if the facts are true, if you think bk78 does not enjoy winding people up you are very naive.
Internet troll jumps on and winds everyone up, I am more than happy to help anyone, but if I see a group of growers winding everyone up, I jump in and wind them up, just like everyone else.

 

[Markshomegrown]

I've done it in the past with a few plants. Journal link in my signature.

It's not something I usually do, but there's pro's and cons to defoliation. These plants will now grow differently than if I'd left them alone so I will have to make the necessary environmental/feed adjustments, but as long as that's taken into consideration these can thrive just as well if not better than if I left them alone. I'm only interested in harvesting tops this time around too.

Edit..
I'll post another picture in a few days after they recover.

That's great, just bear in mind lots of new growers will be looking at your diary and copying what you do, guess you're not watering for a week and you have cut the food back by half as this will cause the plants some level of shock?

 

[.Smoke]

That's great, just bear in mind lots of new growers will be looking at your diary and copying what you do, guess you're not watering for a week and you have cut the food back by half as this will cause the plants some level of shock?

I'm in dtw hydro, so they're watered daily. I'll feed 25% weaker base nutrients but keep the CalMagic at regular level.

The biggest change needed is with maintaining proper vpd. The room went from a sitting 70% rh to 39%, so adjustments to environmental controls is key to keeping me @ my optimal 1.2 pressure deficit.

It's nothing big, but if I didn't make the adjustments I'd run into the issues you see others have when trying it their first few times.