Drooping after watering

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southbayLA154

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So I went to water my plant today
Pot was light and dry

I watered with 2 liters and I got just a bit of runoff and let it soak it up since it wasn’t much
I’m growing organically so I try an get little to no runoff

it’s been doing this lately but this time more noticeable dropping almost like clawing down
Could it be using too much water at time of watering? Or issues with drainage or ?
I don’t think it has to do with drainage I used a lot of pumice , basically it’s just a soil mix of peat moss,ewc and pumice with dr.earth ferts

it droops right after watering and then it perks up a few hours later or by tomorrow when lights come back on..

should I use less water ?
And not let soil completely dry out?
And so it absorbs it easier being slightly damp Thn completely dried out soil? Specially since letting it dry out completely can have microbes

Right After watering:4BD7139F-E530-422F-AD7E-97CF51428BBB.jpeg
Thn it perks back up Few hours later or by next day (old pic):
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southbayLA154

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DoubleAtotheRON said:
Kinda excited to see how this one turns out. Doing great man!
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thanks appreciate it ! Well I watered I’d say 5 hours after lights came on , I usually water when it tells me, I can notice now when it’s bout to start drooping from needing water

but other than the drooping after watering it’s doing fine and usually dries up every3-4 days.

maybe it was the water temp, amount of water used which was 2 liters maybe cut it to 1.5 -1 liter , or maybe shock from going from dry to wet

ehh I won’t stress it much , she’ll perk right up by tomorrow morning..

let the flowering commence lol
 
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DoubleAtotheRON

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southbayLA154 said:
thanks appreciate it ! Well I watered I’d say 5 hours after lights came on , I usually water when it tells me, I can notice now when it’s bout to start drooping from needing water

but other than the drooping after watering it’s doing fine and usually dries up every3-4 days.

maybe it was the water temp, amount of water used which was 2 liters maybe cut it to 1.5 -1 liter , or maybe shock from going from dry to wet

ehh I won’t stress it much , she’ll perk right up by tomorrow morning..

let the flowering commence lol
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At some point, you're going to need some run off. If your roots are fully to the bottom and edges of your pot, you need to fully saturate it, and get some run off every time you feed/water. Personally, I feed every single time from clone to harvest at 1000ppm, and get feed waste running pretty good out the bottom. ... prob around 20% run off. Otherwise, you're going to start building up nutes in that medium, and at some point, you're going to find an over abundance of NPK that's going to burn your project. When I feed in 50 gallons, I'll get 10 gallons of run off.... maybe more.
Edit: Of that 1000ppm, my well water makes up ~320ppm of that.
 
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southbayLA154

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DoubleAtotheRON said:
At some point, you're going to need some run off. If your roots are fully to the bottom and edges of your pot, you need to fully saturate it, and get some run off every time you feed/water. Personally, I feed every single time from clone to harvest at 1000ppm, and get feed waste running pretty good out the bottom. ... prob around 20% run off. Otherwise, you're going to start building up nutes in that medium, and at some point, you're going to find an over abundance of NPK that's going to burn your project. When I feed in 50 gallons, I'll get 10 gallons of run off.... maybe more.
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should I go for runoff even if I’m using organic dry fertilizer? I try n get some runoff once a week/ when I use plain water for tht reason to not get a build of nutes even if there’s a low chance of tht happening with organics
 
DoubleAtotheRON

DoubleAtotheRON

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southbayLA154 said:
should I go for runoff even if I’m using organic dry fertilizer? I try n get some runoff once a week/ when I use plain water for tht reason to not get a build of nutes even if there’s a low chance of tht happening with organics
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That's a good question.... Im in soil, and use bottle nutes, so maybe someone else experienced in organic dry ferts can comment on that. I don't want to steer you in the wrong direction.
 
madvillian420

madvillian420

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a bit of runoff is fine, especially if you dont see it there anymore within a few hours.

same with a bit of droop. if its gone within hours dont mind it. She will drink more in bloom when stacking with nug
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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southbayLA154 said:
So I went to water my plant today
Pot was light and dry

I watered with 2 liters and I got just a bit of runoff and let it soak it up since it wasn’t much
I’m growing organically so I try an get little to no runoff

it’s been doing this lately but this time more noticeable dropping almost like clawing down
Could it be using too much water at time of watering? Or issues with drainage or ?
I don’t think it has to do with drainage I used a lot of pumice , basically it’s just a soil mix of peat moss,ewc and pumice with dr.earth ferts

it droops right after watering and then it perks up a few hours later or by tomorrow when lights come back on..

should I use less water ?
And not let soil completely dry out?
And so it absorbs it easier being slightly damp Thn completely dried out soil? Specially since letting it dry out completely can have microbes

Right After watering:View attachment 5077884
Thn it perks back up Few hours later or by next day (old pic):
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Looks pretty good. I try not to let my organic soil get dry. I try to keep it moist but not waterlogged. If you have enough aeration it's hard to overwater.

Do you know the soil pH? What about the water? Are you using any pH adjuster? Is it well water and what's the ppm?

I've had similar things happen before and I think it was maybe too much Ca. I just started adding a tiny bit of citric acid occasionally. That seemed to help. But I'm a beginner no-till guy still.

Kinda looks like the beginning of K deficiency and Ca can lock it out, so that's also what made me think of that.
 
New weed grower

New weed grower

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DoubleAtotheRON said:
That's a good question.... Im in soil, and use bottle nutes, so maybe someone else experienced in organic dry ferts can comment on that. I don't want to steer you in the wrong direction.
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How do you get run off without your soil being too wet? I'm new to this so wondering how I can manage this?
 
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