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curious2garden

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manfredo said:
The whole country is in a serious opioid crisis, and I don't see it getting any better anytime soon.

Opiate addiction is, IMO, the toughest addiction to break. Meth and cocaine are a walk in the park comparatively. PAWS or post acute withdrawal from opioids, can and does last for years.

Doctors are beginning to wise up at least...Opiates are nothing to play with, but people are playing with them because the high is so great, at first....and they do give great pain relief at first. That's all they are really good for, is short term pain relief...Very short term!!
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Opiates work great for decades. Problem is you have to have a doctor that knows how to use them. I was on them for 22 years. My dose never changed. I stepped off them in 72 hours after a taper.

Fwiw, benzodiazepines are the toughest addiction to break and some say you never can break it. They create their own receptor site so for the rest of your life there's an inherent craving.
Jeffislovinlife said:
7 years of being on pills had me all fucked up had doctors telling me that I might haft to go to a methadone clinic to get some off the shit so I stopped all pill intake and smoked more pot and then lost all doctors because of smoking pot and now my new doctor's are trying to get me back on them lol so I tell them they need to quit practicing medicine and just do it right the first time
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No, they need to stop practicing pain control medicine unless they are a board certified anesthesiologist with a fellowship in Pain Control. In other words tell them to stay in their lane.
 
Jeffislovinlife

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curious2garden said:
Opiates work great for decades. Problem is you have to have a doctor that knows how to use them. I was on them for 22 years. My dose never changed. I stepped off them in 72 hours after a taper.

Fwiw, benzodiazepines are the toughest addiction to break and some say you never can break it. They create their own receptor site so for the rest of your life there's an inherent craving.


No, they need to stop practicing pain control medicine unless they are a board certified anesthesiologist with a fellowship in Pain Control. In other words tell them to stay in their lane.
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And that is why we love surgeons well most of them anyways
 
Jeffislovinlife

Jeffislovinlife

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curious2garden said:
Opiates work great for decades. Problem is you have to have a doctor that knows how to use them. I was on them for 22 years. My dose never changed. I stepped off them in 72 hours after a taper.

Fwiw, benzodiazepines are the toughest addiction to break and some say you never can break it. They create their own receptor site so for the rest of your life there's an inherent craving.


No, they need to stop practicing pain control medicine unless they are a board certified anesthesiologist with a fellowship in Pain Control. In other words tell them to stay in their lane.
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She was a musculoskeletal something or other 15 other names in the one name she used to do my injections through my neck and back she had the lightest hands to but she loved her pills
 
manfredo

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curious2garden said:
Opiates work great for decades. Problem is you have to have a doctor that knows how to use them. I was on them for 22 years. My dose never changed. I stepped off them in 72 hours after a taper.

Fwiw, benzodiazepines are the toughest addiction to break and some say you never can break it. They create their own receptor site so for the rest of your life there's an inherent craving.


No, they need to stop practicing pain control medicine unless they are a board certified anesthesiologist with a fellowship in Pain Control. In other words tell them to stay in their lane.
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I have heard benzos are worse than anything to detox from....That's why I have such respect for them.

My opiate dose hasn't changed in 10 years. But it's about to change.

I dropped my daytime dose by 1/3 starting today...A little challenging but doable. If, and I mean if I can stay at this dose for a week I'll be stabilized, then I'll work on eliminating my night time dose over a few weeks. Hoping I can get back down to about 40 mg a day by the time I have shoulder surgery, and go from there. Weaning is definitely easier than jumping, for me. I'd have to be locked up to go cold turkey....and I would rather die than go cold turkey!

I might be wrong, but from what I have read opiates are harder on men because they deplete testosterone production, causing all kinds of issues. Not that they don't mess up woman too.

My tile installer buddy has been on a super low dose for over 20 years, and he is a basket case. 30 mg a day is all. His anxiety is out of control...I've been saying to him for years, IDK how you stay at that dose, but he is worse off than me....Mentally at least. But he has had more benzo use I think.

The good thing is, quitting opiates does make things go back to normal, eventually. But very few people stay off opiates for life after a long run on them. Kind of like alcohol, only a worse recovery record. Congrats on getting off them after 22 years...Not many do!!
 
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