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Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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cannabineer said:
If you look at all the labyrinthine laws, 2A doesn’t mean much here either. It is infringed up, down and from side to side. So what it actually means (elaborate shrug) and that is just one reason a law career did not call to me.
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Yes your right but what it seems to mean, with it in place, there is no meaningful movement allowed towards reasonable logical laws governing gun ownership. I’ve said before that the only way IMO to get there is to allow federal control and mandatory training. It seems that will never happen, again IMO.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Budley Doright said:
Yes your right but what it seems to mean, with it in place, there is no meaningful movement allowed towards reasonable logical laws governing gun ownership. I’ve said before that the only way IMO to get there is to allow federal control and mandatory training. It seems that will never happen, again IMO.
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Federal control is something I favor. But the mandatory training, the use I see for that is stiffer penalties once someone misuses a gun.*
Which is good.

I have always believed that those of us who own and use guns intelligently/considerately, we are served every time someone who uses a gun in a mean or dumb way is held to a legal penalty.

*My inner cynic looks upon mandatory classes as a windfall for the first corporate educators at the carcass.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Budley Doright said:
Yes your right but what it seems to mean, with it in place, there is no meaningful movement allowed towards reasonable logical laws governing gun ownership. I’ve said before that the only way IMO to get there is to allow federal control and mandatory training. It seems that will never happen, again IMO.
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On a reread, I am curious about what you think is reasonable andor logical.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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cannabineer said:
On a reread, I am curious about what you think is reasonable andor logical.
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I already said at a minimum I would like to see what we have here but again that would not happen. Training (one time thing) before you can purchase any gun. The training is not done by corporations here but typically retired CO’s (that I’ve seen). I personally do not want or see the need for handguns and would not be overly distressed if they were completely banned here. The price paid by society IMO is to high. Stiffer penalties perhaps but not sure how effective they are in the end. The lowering of clip capacities (with no loopholes) to 4 with one chambered so 5 total. And safe storage laws to limit access.
 
oldsilvertip55

oldsilvertip55

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Budley Doright said:
Speaking of marketing. When I was a kid buying my first shotgun (15). I sent away for as much info as I could get. The promotional material consisted of typically a father and son or friends depicted in a hunting or can shooten pic. Things sure have changed :(.
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i traded a fishing reel, for a single barrel 12 gauge it needed a fireing pin , i think it was 4.00$ at that time , won several turkey shoots with that old gun.even my dad shot with it, instead of his browning,4 of us 1 family it uped the odds alot .
 
oldsilvertip55

oldsilvertip55

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Budley Doright said:
I already said at a minimum I would like to see what we have here but again that would not happen. Training (one time thing) before you can purchase any gun. The training is not done by corporations here but typically retired CO’s (that I’ve seen). I personally do not want or see the need for handguns and would not be overly distressed if they were completely banned here. The price paid by society IMO is to high. Stiffer penalties perhaps but not sure how effective they are in the end. The lowering of clip capacities (with no loopholes) to 4 with one chambered so 5 total. And safe storage laws to limit access.
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when lead starts flying ,you will not have time, to mess with trigger locks or a gun safe.
 
oldsilvertip55

oldsilvertip55

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Fogdog said:
Won't pass muster through the SCOTUS. Not now and not for at least 20 years.

The change will only begin when the public demands it and we aren't even close to that. If we can make insurance companies change their rates due to lawsuits, that's one avenue. The other is work to educate the public. OK, OK, that's a big step to take.

It's been done.
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Wasn't easy, then, and isn't now.
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Budley Doright said:
60 years and lack of quick access has not been an issue. But yes I know some worry about that.
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i've seen people, i would not dove hunt with,just no comseption of how lead flies .
 
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