"pH lockout does not exist"

I was watering plants with a 3 part nutrient formula and found just the nutrients alone reduced the ph of my tap water so i didnt need to lower it. I found that out after i had been adding ph down and had a lot of issues. Once i had the ph correct a lot of issues went away. So i think it can happen based on this but thats not science i know.
 
harrychilds said:
I tried to PH my tap water to 5.8 and it kept rising back to 7.0 due to the buffers in the water and I could never properly figure it out, so now I just use normal tap water and canna nutrients without any PH down and I never have any problems with PH lockout. And to be honest, I never did have any issues with PH lockout before I started trying to PH my water, I just wanted to try it out to try and make my plants grow better but it just caused me a shit load of problems lol :bigjoint:
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Bicarbonates from municipal water accumulate in the substrate. In time, they'll affect the pH drift.
Periodically I'll add fresh pressed lemon juice or apple cider vinegar to plain water/ aloe drench.

I've also used highly acidic solutions to top water organic No Till. No problems at all. No 1 leaf twisted or got blotches. It all comes down to the soils health and diversity of microbial populations.
 
Jjgrow420 said:
I think the real question is:
Is it pronounced p-h or 'fff'. Because obviously ph sounds an 'f' sound so technically you are saying ffff not p-h. If it was the ladder it would be hyphenated
Discuss;
Can you tell I'm procrastinating from trimming?
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potential of hydrogen sounds french probably
 
crimsonecho said:
i did and i havent seen anything about medium ph directly affecting intracelullar ph (big word i learned from google lol) as they claim. i really would appreciate an answer here. i’m not even saying the ph isnt important but there is a good margin there and unless its extremely off whats the point and in those situations medium ph will not be corrected by ph up and down. and plants should be able to regulate their internal and intracellular ph like millions of other species. thats my whole point she posted a chart and havent even commented.
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because that chart alone holds many different associations regarding pH and if you don't know this but it interests you then you know where to go. I'm just giving you a direction, but you need to take a little bit of money into the hand and buy proper textbooks. The info's online are not complete, it's just cut-out, although there are some good basic guide like on the Med-Teks page.
Sometimes studies are nice to illustrate an isolate point, for example one new study on cannabis illustrates how medium pH in organics can drop by -1.0 on average within a month. So even in organics it can matter, but it mustn't. There's a huge difference between outdoor, what kind of soil u use, fert, even bacteria culture... impossible to figure out these things at your home w/o lab. Or in forums, studies/books is where you get valid info from experts. But it's not needed at all for practical purposes. Most found their way by trial & error & build their theoretical explanations of why it works afterwards.

pH affects stability of chelating agents, nute profile shifts in antagonisms or synergy, MO cultures and alot more.
The people that claim "I don't pH" put very likely alkaline tap into soil which counter-balances the natural acidification in organics and therefore "do pH" as well.
These that use mineralic fertilizer also pH with that, most bottles will change to slightly acidic.
 
Kassiopeija said:
yes it is, the medium pH translates into the xylem but plants try to keep that neutral.
it later affects how nutes are shuffled around
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a civilized person, thanks. from all my readings albeit they are limited the actual point where cannabis plants cant sustain normal processes seems to be around 4.5 and 8 and above now in hydro everybody i know ph their water and in soil plants favor bacteria or fungi over another and in turn dial in their environmental ph if talking about a healthy rhizosphere and fairly balanced high quality medium.
so all in all as the guy in the video says “more than likely your purple sugar leaves are due to overwatering rather than ph”. i do agree with this statement, especially in soil. though that guy talks about hydro i don’t know how you overwater in hydro is he talking about coco or some shit? i don’t have an idea. well anyway yeah i understand medium has an effect on it but slight margins will not chance the internal ph of the plant it’ll just will cause more of the plants energy to be used on maintaining it.
 
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