Examples of GOP Leadership

printer

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it's a private company...the republicans went on and on about how businesses are allowed to make their own rules during the pandemic.
and with any luck, we're seeing the beginning of the end for the republican party. their voter base shrinks every year, and their representatives get fucking stupider and crazier every year...i'm not looking for them to do well in the coming years it takes for the elephant to finally die. they may not even pull of the votes they need to regain a majority in the house OR the senate this year...that would just tickle me fucking mauve...which is way beyond pink...
and google can afford to fight them in the courts for decades, till they're back out of power.
then there is the huge potential audience from youtube, the republicans may talk a lot of shit, but they don't want to lose that potential audience
Inflation. If it were not for it I would hold out some hope for the Democrats. Sure google can fight back, the Republicans are shrinking, both reasons for them to change the rules. And they will be gunning for it more after this.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Inflation. If it were not for it I would hold out some hope for the Democrats. Sure google can fight back, the Republicans are shrinking, both reasons for them to change the rules. And they will be gunning for it more after this.
they're going extinct, and the best they can hope for is another few years. young people are going democrat at a 4 to 1 rate. the older base is dying off, and there is NO ONE there to replace those losses. it's simple math. the only way for the republican party to survive is to rebrand itself in a way that appeals to younger voters, and i just don't see that happening, without it changing the party so much that they will become the "conservative democratic party" in the end. the day of the old republican establishment is over, the patriarchs are dying off, and they have no one to carry on
 

captainmorgan

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hanimmal

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Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (R-Neb.) said Saturday that he will resign from Congress after he was convicted Thursday on three felony counts for lying to federal investigators about illegal campaign contributions from a foreign billionaire.

In a letter to his House colleagues, Fortenberry said his last day in Congress will be March 31.

“It has been my honor to serve with you in the United States House of Representatives,” Fortenberry wrote. “It has been my pleasure to call many of you friends. May God bless you as you labor for the good of our country, help those in need, and strive for what is right and just.”

In a statement posted on his website, Fortenberry, who took office in 2005, told his constituents that “due to the difficulties of my current circumstances, I can no longer serve you effectively.”

Fortenberry’s charges stem from a 2016 fundraiser held in Glendale, Calif., for the congressman’s reelection. There, Fortenberry received donations totaling $30,200 from Gilbert Chagoury, a wealthy Nigerian business executive of Lebanese descent who used other people as conduits to make the contributions, the U.S. attorney’s office for the Central District of California announced in October.

Foreign nationals are prohibited from donating to candidates running for federal office in the United States. It is also illegal to disguise a donor’s identity through third-party contributions.

Fortenberry was convicted of one count of scheming to falsify and conceal material facts and two counts of making false statements to federal investigators. Each of the counts carries a maximum penalty of five years in federal prison. Felons are eligible to run for and serve in Congress.

Fortenberry’s week-long trial in Los Angeles concluded with a guilty verdict announced after two hours of deliberations on Thursday, the Associated Press reported.

“After learning of illegal contributions to his campaign, the congressman repeatedly chose to conceal the violations of federal law to protect his job, his reputation and his close associates,” U.S. Attorney Tracy L. Wilkison said in a statement Thursday. “The lies in this case threatened the integrity of the American electoral system and were designed to prevent investigators from learning the true source of campaign funds.”

The congressman — who has maintained his innocence since being charged in October — said he planned to appeal the verdict. His defense team had argued that authorities had used deceptive investigative tactics to indict the congressman.

House leadership, however, called for his resignation after the conviction.

“Congressman Fortenberry’s conviction represents a breach of the public trust and confidence in his ability to serve. No one is above the law,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement Friday. “Congressman Fortenberry must resign from the House.”
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) also called on him to step down.

Speaking during the House Republicans’ annual retreat in Florida on Friday, McCarthy said Fortenberry “had his day in court.”

“I think if he wants to appeal, he could go do that as a private citizen,” McCarthy said. “But I think when someone’s convicted, it’s time to resign.”

According to court documents, Chagoury, the Nigerian billionaire, and his associates had ties to a nonprofit that fought the persecution of Christians and other minorities in the Middle East. Federal prosecutors said the trio sought to funnel money to “politicians from less-populous states because the contribution would be more noticeable to the politician and thereby would promote increased donor access.”

Fortenberry, who supported the group’s mission, maintains he knew nothing of the illegal campaign donations.

Twice in 2019, investigators interviewed the congressman about the contributions while secretly recording him — the recordings of which, according to reports by multiple outlets, were played during the trial. According to the indictment, Fortenberry “knowingly and willfully made materially false statements and representations to the FBI and IRS” about the illegal donations.

Yet the congressman has repeatedly painted a different story.

Ahead of the announcement of the indictment, Fortenberry — sitting inside his pickup truck with his wife, Celeste, and their dog — said
in a YouTube video that “a person from overseas illegally moved money to my campaign,” adding that he “didn’t know anything about this.”

Fortenberry said he had told everything he knew to the FBI agents. The charges brought against him came as a shock, he said.

“I feel so personally betrayed,” he said. “We thought we were trying to help.”

The GOP primary for Nebraska’s 1st District currently has at least four other contenders, including Nebraska state Sen. Mike Flood (R), who mounted a strong challenge to Fortenberry after news of the indictment broke last October. The winner of the primary will likely face state Sen. Patty Pansing Brooks (D). The district is heavily Republican.

Pansing Brooks told the AP Friday that Fortenberry’s conviction was a “wake-up call” and that Nebraska is likely “to be the brunt of some jokes” because of it.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Well Kemp is going to have to testify against him in court this summer, along with other Georgia republican officials. The trial is in heavily democratic and half black Fulton Co, might happen this summer and trials in Georgia are on TV too! There's a bonus! Now if Donald draws a black no nonsense black female judge, she might order him tied to his chair and ball gagged if he doesn't STFU during testimony against him! At sentencing in the fall, just before the election when she sentences him and gives him a nice lecture while ripping a strip off him on TV. Donald goes nuts on the entire republican party and tells his base to stay home!

Best case scenario! :lol:

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Money lost to the republicans, he won't spend a dime on this election, except to oust his enemies in primaries, the rest will go for rapidly mounting legal bills and trying to keep his dying business from going broke. Perhaps that's why he is not being prosecuted in NY, they've had a good look at the books and know he will soon crash and burn in bankruptcy. It would be better if he went down on his own, then do him after the mess emerges from his financial ruin. Perhaps Donald has about as much time before he goes broke, as Vlad does and they will both go down together.

 

cannabineer

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Money lost to the republicans, he won't spend a dime on this election, except to oust his enemies in primaries, the rest will go for rapidly mounting legal bills and trying to keep his dying business from going broke. Perhaps that's why he is not being prosecuted in NY, they've had a good look at the books and know he will soon crash and burn in bankruptcy. It would be better if he went down on his own, then do him after the mess emerges from his financial ruin. Perhaps Donald has about as much time before he goes broke, as Vlad does and they will both go down together.

I would like to believe your hypothesis about Bragg’s reason for abandoning the case, but I can’t.

No prosecutor will abandon such a high-profile case without a motive. That motive could be some structural problem with discovered material, or it could be an undisclosed personal bias.

The fact that two of his best prosecutors quit does not support a rosy scenario. I really hope some journalist finds out and reports why.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I would like to believe your hypothesis about Bragg’s reason for abandoning the case, but I can’t.

No prosecutor will abandon such a high-profile case without a motive. That motive could be some structural problem with discovered material, or it could be an undisclosed personal bias.

The fact that two of his best prosecutors quit does not support a rosy scenario. I really hope some journalist finds out and reports why.
Nonetheless, it could be the end result, Donald's businesses are losing money at a horrific rate and he can't get accounting help either, or banking support for everyday stuff.
 

captainmorgan

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I would like to believe your hypothesis about Bragg’s reason for abandoning the case, but I can’t.

No prosecutor will abandon such a high-profile case without a motive. That motive could be some structural problem with discovered material, or it could be an undisclosed personal bias.

The fact that two of his best prosecutors quit does not support a rosy scenario. I really hope some journalist finds out and reports why.

Did you read the lovely letter he wrote to Stinky and his whore?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Nonetheless, it could be the end result, Donald's businesses are losing money at a horrific rate and he can't get accounting help either, or banking support for everyday stuff.
His businesses have always fared poorly. His survivability exceeds my credulity. Without a forced court appearance I have no confidence he won’t keep the graft going. He has done heart-stoppingly criminal deeds before and during his tenure in DC.
No indictments 15 months in. Something’s rotten in East Saint Looey.
 

captainmorgan

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I saw a old letter from Bragg to Stinky and his whore when he was president. It was one of those ass kissing things that went on about how wonderful he is. Have you seen any of the videos of white house meetings where Stinky has everyone take turns around the table saying how wonderful and powerful he is?
 

CunningCanuk

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His businesses have always fared poorly. His survivability exceeds my credulity. Without a forced court appearance I have no confidence he won’t keep the graft going. He has done heart-stoppingly criminal deeds before and during his tenure in DC.
No indictments 15 months in. Something’s rotten in East Saint Looey.
The only thing he was good at was pretending to be a businessman on tv and he wasn’t even that good at that.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I would like to believe your hypothesis about Bragg’s reason for abandoning the case, but I can’t.

No prosecutor will abandon such a high-profile case without a motive. That motive could be some structural problem with discovered material, or it could be an undisclosed personal bias.

The fact that two of his best prosecutors quit does not support a rosy scenario. I really hope some journalist finds out and reports why.
Everyday Donald keeps the big lie con going, is a day he steals more small donor money from republican house candidates, who depend on that cash along with RNC support. He's vacuuming up their money too and they are paying his mounting legal bills in most cases and he will use them like toilet paper. Everybody motivated by hate gives money to Donald first and the GOP second and it might be half or more of the base who donate small dollars. Besides, Donald is ripping the republicans apart over the "Big steal" and now over the Russians and Putin, with their past coming back to haunt many of them.

I don't mind Donald running around like Chuckie with a knife inside the republican party in a critical election year and neither does Joe. Lose the election and you could be on the road to losing your democracy and freedom, Trump should have taught some Americans a few things and Putin is teaching them more. You don't like the temporary injustice, but you might like the end result. The wheels of justice grind slowly anyway and in this case, it will grind those involved in this shit to dust.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Trump and some republicans might be worried about what is happening in Russia and what might come out in the near future. If Vlad's regime goes down, the new government could open up some files for the CIA to help with sanctions etc. Maybe some in Russia want to undermine Vlad and will leak information to turn America against him even more and to prevent Trump rising to power again. This shakes things up a lot and these republicans should be concerned, if the betrayed America. I'm wondering about Mike Pompeo myself, among others.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Without getting into too much of a conspiracy theory, if you wanted to kill or delay Trump's indictment in NY then the elected official is the guy to do it, not the prosecutors, they are officers of the court and must not be involved or know the reason. Trump's NY troubles are of little interest to his base who won't understand it anyway, it would be out of sight and be behind closed doors. Trials in Georgia are on TV and republican officials will be testifying against Trump for election cheating and directly challenging the big lie under oath. It will most likely happen this summer and it will get national wall to wall TV coverage and in Futon Co, he has a very good chance of being convicted, the sentencing might be in the fall.

Perhaps they are saving Donald's virginity for the right moment and will pop his cherry on live national TV with the nation glued to the tube. I would, if it meant the house and senate in 2022 and would quietly and carefully arrange to make it happen. Bragg just ain't that big a fool, but a call from someone in the party might have changed his mind and a six or nine month delay is nothing in the legal system. He is the key to making it happen in Georgia on national TV this spring or summer and he is elected, so he's covered, for now.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Maybe Bragg will suddenly get an ambassadorship to some obscure African country this summer and resign to take up his important new post... :lol: This is way too fucking big for corruption with the feds looking over his shoulder, it is way too high profile for obstruction of justice. It makes no sense, unless Trump has him in a porn video or something, there are far too many eyeballs on this, it's way too hot.

By the time they get around to removing him from office, he will have another job after resigning, what that plum is, remains to be seen.
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NY DA Alvin Bragg Refuses to Indict Trump: Candidates for NY Governor Pledge to Remove Bragg


Prosecutors owe the people they represent three things: transparency, accountability and candor. New York District Attorney Alvin Bragg has fallen down on the job on all three fronts. It's no surprise that several candidates running for governor of New York -- Democrats and Republicans alike -- are pledging to remove Bragg form office if elected.

This video reviews how Bragg has failed on the transparency front, the accountability front and the candor front. Given those three strikes, Bragg should be out. Because justice matters.
 

hanimmal

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I would like to believe your hypothesis about Bragg’s reason for abandoning the case, but I can’t.

No prosecutor will abandon such a high-profile case without a motive. That motive could be some structural problem with discovered material, or it could be an undisclosed personal bias.

The fact that two of his best prosecutors quit does not support a rosy scenario. I really hope some journalist finds out and reports why.
I am hoping it is to not screw with a Federal/State double jeopardy case. I am pretty sure it was Manafort that had something like that in his charges that got tossed, but not 100% if it was him or not.
 
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