January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

schuylaar

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January 6 panel loses patience as contempt claims pile up
The contempt charges forwarded by the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol are piling up at the Justice Department, and it’s clear that hopeful lawmakers have been losing their patience.

The committee forwarded the recommendation Monday night to seek charges against Dan Scavino, Trump’s former deputy chief of staff for communications, and Peter Navarro, a former trade adviser.

If the full House also censures the men it will be the third and fourth such recommendation to the Justice Department seeking charges against aides that have defied the committee by refusing to appear for depositions or provide documents.


So far, however, Justice has only filed charges against one-time White House strategist Steve Bannon.

While Bannon's trial is set to begin in June — he faces up to two years in prison and $200,000 in fines — the Justice Department has not yet acted on a similar report recommending contempt of Congress charges against former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows.

“Attorney General Garland, do your job so we can do ours,” Rep. Elaine Luria (D-Va.) said at a Monday night meeting called to weigh the report against Scavino and Navarro.

Meadows was censured by the House in December, yet the Justice Department has taken far longer to weigh whether to bring charges against him.

Meadows presents a more complicated case than Bannon, who was long out of the White House by Jan. 6 and who’s claims of being covered by executive privilege were quickly rejected by the department.

The Justice Department has no obligation to pursue charges recommended by the House, but Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) spoke of their duty.

“The Department of Justice has a duty to act on this referral and others that we have sent,” he said.

“Without enforcement of Congressional subpoenas, there is no oversight, and without oversight, no accountability — for the former President, or any other president, past, present, or future. Without enforcement of its lawful process, Congress ceases to be a co-equal branch of government, and the balance of power would be forever altered, to the lasting detriment of the American people.”

The Justice Department did not immediately respond to request for comment.

Scavino was subpoenaed by the committee given his proximity to Trump on the day of the riot as well as his efforts promoting the pro-Trump rally that day and his reported participation in multiple conversations about challenging the election. Navarro waded into multiple efforts to promote baseless claims of election fraud in the 2020 contest, including working with Bannon to delay Congress’s certification of the results.

Both have suggested that their work affords them executive privilege. But the committee says Scavino must appear to assert that on a question-by-question basis while Navarro’s election efforts were far outside his official capacity

Vice Chair Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) was more veiled in her comments, arguing that the executive privilege claims so steadfastly rejected by the committee should not find a home at the Justice Department, which has often been viewed as a protector of executive power.

“Department leadership should not apply any doctrine of immunity that might block Congress from fully uncovering and addressing the causes of the January 6th attack,” she said.

Still, some members of the committee were hopeful that more charges could be coming.

“They’ve acted on Bannon, right? They didn't obviously on Meadows. Our job is to help make the case, and that's what the contempt report is about. That's what we can control. What today was about in that room was about Navarro and Scavino and helping to lay the case and to make the case so Congress can act and the Department of Justice can act,” Rep. Pete Aguilar (D-Calif.) said.
If I didn't show for a subpoena..any subpoena they'd come looking for me and I'd be arrested.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Trump was grabbing cellphones from those around him and making calls like a Russian general in Ukraine! It shouldn't be too difficult with phone records and testimony, to reconstruct everything. In the end they will know every time Trump took a shit that day and how many sheets he used to wipe his ass, or how many depends he went through.
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Report: Trump phone records show 7-hour gap on Jan. 6

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Even Michael Corleone had to show up for a Congressional hearing.
Defying subpoenas is the least of their worries, from what I can see, when the 1/6 committee is done, the DOJ can put a significant part of the republican party in prison for seditious conspiracy and other things related to overthrowing the government. All those false republican electors from the states who signed off on those documents and those who helped or enabled them too. Then there is the bunch in the WH with Trump. I think the theory is you can only jail Trump once and for so long anyway, before nature takes care of the problem.

I suspect that Trump will be on trial in Fulton Co Georgia by summer for election cheating. Trials in Georgia unlike many other places are on TV and it will be wall to wall national coverage. Top republican officials will be testifying against him in public and it could mean a criminal record and time in custody of some sort. The republicans will have to challenge the big lie directly under oath and Donald might lose control, we hope...

If this happens, Donald will go insane, there will be riots on the courthouse steps in Georgia, but Fulton Co is heavily democratic and half black. I don't think this prosecutor will give Donald a pass. He would have a very hard time screaming political witch hunt with republicans testifying against him in a southern red state. It will destroy or damage his hold over the republican party and if Donald can't control it, he will try to destroy it and keep his base home in November out of spite and retribution.

I figure with the war in Ukraine and Donald freaking out like Chuckie with a knife inside the GOP, it's the best hope the Americans have in November. Of course Joe doing an excellent job helps too, but facts don't matter to nearly half the population, perhaps this will though.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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George Conway: I Don't Know If Trump Will Get Away With It, But Judge's Finding Does Matter


A judge presiding over a civil suit involving the January 6 committee found Monday that then-President Trump 'likely attempted to obstruct the joint session of Congress' on Jan. 6, 2021, which would be a crime. George Conway and Jackie Alemany discuss.
 

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McConnell sidesteps question on Jan. 6 call from Trump
“I've said repeatedly the last time I spoke to the president was the day after the Electoral College declared President Biden the winner. I publicly congratulated President Biden on his victory and received a phone call after that from President Trump and that's the last time we’ve spoken,” McConnell said when asked why he did not take Trump's calls the day of the Capitol riot.

Pressed on if he tried to call Trump back that day, McConnell said, “I just answered your question.”

The Washington Post reported on Tuesday that Trump called McConnell on Jan. 6, citing internal White House records. A McConnell aide told the newspaper that the minority leader declined the then-president’s call.

The Post also reported that Trump’s phone logs, turned over to the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, have a gap of seven hours and 37 minutes around the time when the deadly riot was occurring.
 

schuylaar

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Defying subpoenas is the least of their worries, from what I can see, when the 1/6 committee is done, the DOJ can put a significant part of the republican party in prison for seditious conspiracy and other things related to overthrowing the government. All those false republican electors from the states who signed off on those documents and those who helped or enabled them too. Then there is the bunch in the WH with Trump. I think the theory is you can only jail Trump once and for so long anyway, before nature takes care of the problem.

I suspect that Trump will be on trial in Fulton Co Georgia by summer for election cheating. Trials in Georgia unlike many other places are on TV and it will be wall to wall national coverage. Top republican officials will be testifying against him in public and it could mean a criminal record and time in custody of some sort. The republicans will have to challenge the big lie directly under oath and Donald might lose control, we hope...

If this happens, Donald will go insane, there will be riots on the courthouse steps in Georgia, but Fulton Co is heavily democratic and half black. I don't think this prosecutor will give Donald a pass. He would have a very hard time screaming political witch hunt with republicans testifying against him in a southern red state. It will destroy or damage his hold over the republican party and if Donald can't control it, he will try to destroy it and keep his base home in November out of spite and retribution.

I figure with the war in Ukraine and Donald freaking out like Chuckie with a knife inside the GOP, it's the best hope the Americans have in November. Of course Joe doing an excellent job helps too, but facts don't matter to nearly half the population, perhaps this will though.
But what happened to NY?
 

schuylaar

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George Conway: I Don't Know If Trump Will Get Away With It, But Judge's Finding Does Matter


A judge presiding over a civil suit involving the January 6 committee found Monday that then-President Trump 'likely attempted to obstruct the joint session of Congress' on Jan. 6, 2021, which would be a crime. George Conway and Jackie Alemany discuss.
It's like Satan truly rules the earth.
 
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