First setup w/ tent - what do you think? (pics)

ninjapoodles · Apr 12, 2022

I've grown 2 other times when I was younger - bootleg no budget setup. Plants turned nice, but took 5-6months instead of regular time.

First time trying several years later with a better setup.

Equipment
- 36x36x80'' tent SunStream
- 1200W LED (120x10W) lights with Veg/Bloom options
- 400w HPS veg/bloom lights
- basic humidifier 2gal (warm/cold setting)
- 2 x 18cm wide honeywell fans (1 blows in/1 out)

Plants/Equip
- 4 x 5gal grow bags
- Coco coir as soil
- 25% perlite mixed in
- Will be using Indo nutrients

Strains
- 2 x Black Gold (feminized) (#3-4 on picture)
- 1 x Fruity Pebbles OG (feminized) (#2 on picture)
- 1 x ? CBD strain (#1 on picture)

GROW LOG
Day/Night C/% are Min/Max.
Current days passed since SEED : 8 days.

2022-04-05 - Soaked seeds in water 24h

2022-04-06 - Seeds in scott paper 48h

2022-04-08 - Seeds 3/4 - 1 inch long planted 1/4 inch in final 5 gal pot.
Day : 28C-75%humid / Night : 17.9C-55%humid
Lights : 30 inches away.

2022-04-09 - Seedlings cracked surface, helped take off loose caps.
Day : 29C-60% / Night 15.9C-43%
Lights : 30 inches away.

2022-04-10 - #4-1 seem to struggle. #3-2 are happy
Day : 25C-59% / Night 14.5C-40%
Lights : 30 inches away.

2022-04-11 - #4-1 seem to struggle. #3-2 are happy
Day : 27.6C-81% / Night 18.5C-40%
Lights : HPS 30 inches away, LED 19 inches away.

2022-04-12 - #4-1 seem to struggle. #3-2 are happy
Day : 26C-55% / Night TBD
Lights : HPS 30 inches away, LED 19 inches away.

Having issues with #1-4 still after 8 days in.
No nutrients have been given yet - maybe I should ?

Any feedback of setup / or anything else is appreciated !

hotrodharley · Apr 12, 2022

Grow bags unnecessarily large. Tent that size 3 gallon bags and a short veg. You’ll be lucky to fit 4.

ninjapoodles · Apr 12, 2022

hotrodharley said:
Grow bags unnecessarily large. Tent that size 3 gallon bags and a short veg. You’ll be lucky to fit 4.

Thanks for the insight, will take note of that for the grow.

Any insight on the plant health?

Thanks

hotrodharley · Apr 12, 2022

ninjapoodles said:
Thanks for the insight, will take note of that for the grow.

Any insight on the plant health?

Thanks

Too small to tell much but be careful to not
overwater at any time but especially at this stage.

Rookieoftheyr · Apr 12, 2022

Look ok for a seedling. Your so early in yet. Take Hot Rods advice. A lot of people drown seeds. I myself am guilty of it in past.

hotrodharley · Apr 12, 2022

In a tent that small I would consider putting 1 gallon bags in wall to wall. Just enough space they’re not touching. Germinate right in the bag. Veg 3 weeks and flip. No topping. No training. Strip everything but the top 3 nodes.

hotrodharley · Apr 12, 2022

And stick to indicas for the time being.

ninjapoodles · Apr 12, 2022

hotrodharley said:
Too small to tell much but be careful to not
overwater at any time but especially at this stage.

Rookieoftheyr said:
Look ok for a seedling. Your so early in yet. Take Hot Rods advice. A lot of people drown seeds. I myself am guilty of it in past.

Ok no overwatering - duly noted.
I think I may have been giving a bit too much too, so this might be life saver advice.

ninjapoodles · Apr 12, 2022

hotrodharley said:
In a tent that small I would consider putting 1 gallon bags in wall to wall. Just enough space they’re not touching. Germinate right in the bag. Veg 3 weeks and flip. No topping. No training. Strip everything but the top 3 nodes.

I'm not certain of what flipping means, but I'm assuming the concept you're saying is - Veg 3 weeks in 1 gal bag, let it grow high without topping/training. Then cut everything under top 3 (assuming you keep top fan leaves) - bloom the hell out of top. Cut. Restart process ?

hotrodharley · Apr 12, 2022

ninjapoodles said:
I'm not certain of what flipping means, but I'm assuming the concept you're saying is - Veg 3 weeks in 1 gal bag, let it grow high without topping/training. Then cut everything under top 3 (assuming you keep top fan leaves) - bloom the hell out of top. Cut. Restart process ?

Yep. Just grow killer top colas. The few side buds would be good too. Flip is switching to 12/12 to flower. Veg short, flower long.

ninjapoodles · Apr 12, 2022

hotrodharley said:
Yep. Just grow killer top colas. The few side buds would be good too. Flip is switching to 12/12 to flower. Veg short, flower long.

Should one flip to flower at 3 weeks even if veg was slow i.e plants are still 'small' say 1-1.5 ft?

hotrodharley · Apr 12, 2022

ninjapoodles said:
Should one flip to flower at 3 weeks even if veg was slow i.e plants are still 'small' say 1-1.5 ft?

Yes and make the first feeding after flipping a full veg feed. They’ll need it for the stretch.

Rookieoftheyr · Apr 12, 2022

ninjapoodles said:
Should one flip to flower at 3 weeks even if veg was slow i.e plants are still 'small' say 1-1.5 ft?

it all depends on your space. Figure your plants will double in height once you flip. That being said you have to use your judgment. Take into consideration how far your light has to be away from top of plant.

ninjapoodles · Apr 12, 2022

hotrodharley said:
Yes and make the first feeding after flipping a full veg feed. They’ll need it for the stretch.

Noted for the first feeding too.

Rookieoftheyr said:
it all depends on your space. Figure your plants will double in height once you flip. That being said you have to use your judgment. Take into consideration how far your light has to be away from top of plant.

Yeah, keeping that in mind. I know there's a simple formula for plant v.s light height after flip, but with 6.7 feet high, i'm not too worried when time comes, just don't want them to overheat and slow grow because of it. I was aiming about 2-2.5 feet veg, 4-4.5 feet bloomed like I've had before. Just really don't want it taking as much time - I assume some conditions were not perfect for it to take this long.

hotrodharley · Apr 12, 2022

That 400 watt HPS is going to make some heat.

ninjapoodles · Apr 12, 2022

hotrodharley said:
That 400 watt HPS is going to make some heat.

Definitely a battle I have right now, adjusting the temperatures so they are more stable. I put the HPS higher than the LED and made sure fan blows lots of heat up and another exhaust out of it, but this also hinders on humidity.

hotrodharley · Apr 12, 2022

ninjapoodles said:
Definitely a battle I have right now, adjusting the temperatures so they are more stable. I put the HPS higher than the LED and made sure fan blows lots of heat up and another exhaust out of it, but this also hinders on humidity.

Vented hoods are a good investment there. Cool it off at the source.

ninjapoodles · Apr 12, 2022

hotrodharley said:
Vented hoods are a good investment there. Cool it off at the source.

Smart, did not know that existed - will def look into it !

jondamon · Apr 12, 2022

ninjapoodles said:
Smart, did not know that existed - will def look into it !

what’s your exhaust fan?

Because you said you have 2 Honeywell 18CM fans

Like these?

Extraction fans look like this usually attached to a carbon filter and then ducted out of the area you’re growing within.

ninjapoodles · Apr 13, 2022

jondamon said:
what’s your exhaust fan?

Because you said you have 2 Honeywell 18CM fans

Like these?
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Extraction fans look like this usually attached to a carbon filter and then ducted out of the area you’re growing within.

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Yeah will try to find one similar that is somewhat budget. Maybe you'd have some recommendations? Doubt I'll get a bigger tent than the current, although who knows. Hehe

First setup w/ tent - what do you think? (pics)

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