Cgravell23
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R u talking about Oil slick Sheet (PTFE)?
Bho vacuum chambers
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lusidghost
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Yeah. My bad. I meant to post a link.
Cgravell23
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Yea i got some of that already
Cgravell23
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So to make it stable im gonna have to put it just in the chamber in a sleeping bag on the floor in the room and not purge or re-vac it or anything for three days @ room temp? and then put it on a skillet for the last 5 to 10 minutes and heat it up to 140° To get honeycomb?
lusidghost
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I can't remember what form honeycomb is, but that seems unnecessary and a waste of terpenes.
Cgravell23
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Well I was just wondering how I could get it to harden up a little bit it’s like maple syrup right now but actually a little bit thicker?
lusidghost
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There are a lot of factors that contribute to the texture. Too much moisture or heat usually being the main ones. If it doesn't shatter up over time in the vacuum, nothing is going to harden it back up. And that's okay really. Just don't mess with it too much is my best advice. Blast it, put it in the chamber and and leave it alone until it looks done. Then give it another day before pulling it out. It's very similar to harvesting as far as patience goes. I've rarely seen buds that are too ripe or bho that is over purged.
I blasted mine tonight and now it's sloughing off the liquid on the porch. Judging by the color I don't think it's going to turn out real great. My storage bucket let in moisture and it was fairly old material. That's fine though. I was trying to get rid of it before it got too old. We'll see, I've been surprised before. I know the yield will suck because the moisture made the material springy, so I couldn't pack as much in as I can when it's drier.
Cgravell23
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OK so when I put it in the chamber for vacuum & only let it run until it hits -30 and then close my valves immediately and turn off the pump and release the little bit of air that’s in the hose from my pump fitting and you’re saying it should bubble for a day or two? Or do I just run the pump until the muffin top pops and then close my valves and let it set & it should bubble for a day or two or do i close the valves and turn it off after the muffin top pops & let it bubble at first till the bubble action stops & do that till i dont get no more action on the crude oil? In the process of it bubbling (realeasing the tane) do i slowly let off the air and re-vac it again and make it bubble then close my valves again and let it set for 5-15 until the bubbles go away, over& over for a day- 2 straight?
lusidghost
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I usually keep the pump running until the muffin collapses then close off the valve and turn off the pump. Then I leave it alone for a few days before pulling it out. If it's too tacky I'll flip it and stick it back in for a day or so. Sometimes that helps, sometimes it doesn't do much.
Cgravell23
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Alrighty thank u tons for the advice!!! But Doesn’t it stop bubbling after about 15 minutes?
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lusidghost
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It depends on how much you're running, how warm it is, the moisture content, and the vacuum power. I usually have to babysit my muffins for at least an hour. Then they collapse and smaller bubbles start forming later. Then they collapse and even smaller bubbles form. They sometimes collapse, but sometimes keep the matrix.
Cgravell23
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OK well I’ve done three runs the first one did not go well at all because first of all my material was real real moist still & I ran the vac to suck air or whatever out of the column to allow more butane out after I had already put butane in my column and let it set for about 10 mins in it so when I opened the valve it sucked all the wax and everything out 
on my second round my stupid skillet got too hot and ran @ like at like 115 for the night, lol. And this round was ok it just doesnt really have much taste @ all but smells dank af, but @ least its not burnt tasting/smelling like the second run!
on my second round my stupid skillet got too hot and ran @ like at like 115 for the night, lol. And this round was ok it just doesnt really have much taste @ all but smells dank af, but @ least its not burnt tasting/smelling like the second run!
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Cgravell23
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does grinding the material really good help with more yield?
Cgravell23
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Ok so if my vaccum chamber gauge is losing vacc can i just run it it for like a minute or 2 every 8/9 hours that it needs to re-pull a full vac by furning onbtbe pump & slowly opening the pump valve?
Cgravell23
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What do u mean by keep pulling, like turning on my pump after its lost pressure with the pump valve closed @ first & then when your pump starts to run then u slowly open the pump valve for your chamber to regain negative pressure?
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Jjgrow420
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I mean keep pulling a vac and dropping the muffin until it's semi stable and not making a muffin anymore
Cgravell23
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So do I open my air inlet valve and let it loose suction and then close it off & re-vac it for 5/10 minutes or however long it takes for your muffin to drop then let it stabalize for 24/48 hours?
lusidghost
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You're making it very complicated. You put it in the chamber, vac it as low as you can get it. The muffin will collapse. Seal off the vac valve and turn off the vac. Then wait until the big bubbles collapse. This could take a few hours or several days. Then take it out and check it. If it seems tacky, stick it back in.
Sometimes I fold the paddy over on itself and press it really well. This will cause more gas to escape when you put it back in. Sometimes the muffin will collapse too quickly an the paddy will be flat with no real bubbles. It will look finished, but be tacky. Folding it over and pressing before you put it back in will sometimes cause it to muffin up again.
Sometimes I fold the paddy over on itself and press it really well. This will cause more gas to escape when you put it back in. Sometimes the muffin will collapse too quickly an the paddy will be flat with no real bubbles. It will look finished, but be tacky. Folding it over and pressing before you put it back in will sometimes cause it to muffin up again.
Cgravell23
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Yea thats what i was thinking, that it would sound complicated trying to explain the process. But ok cool i got u, & yea ive found out that if u cant get any action on your patty then by pressing it onto itself can cause it to muffin/bubble up again. My bad for not knowing what im doing.
Jjgrow420
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Better to ask questions than to make a mistake!
There's no real set way to do it. Everyone has their own little methods they use. For me I find it's better to keep placing it under vacuum and releasing it until the muffin doesn't blow up anymore. I'm usually yielding between 14-30g depends on what tube I'm using and I only have a 3gal chamber so a big muffin will touch the sides.
Then I'll vac it as low as possible and let it be for a day flip it then re vac and leave it for another day and voila. I just ran some fresh frozen and it's so stinky and came out perfect. I'll grab a shot in a few
I feel as though when you press the paddy onto itself it's just releasing the air you trapped inside while folding. Everytime you flip or fold it'll bubble up again. If it's too hot you risk boiling out the some (most) Terps and you'll see them as little bubbles.
Not saying my way is right or the best or anything just something to reference
I'd certainly listen to @lusidghost he knows what he's talking about
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