HPS vs. LED Grow Lights — Which is Better for Growing Weed?
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Cannabisco
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Shit lol I keep all my pics on Google drive & never been an issue for me over the past 15 yrs.
Not trying to prove anything to anyone homie, just my xp with LED and HPS, you dont have to Call it truth or BS, i find it to be both when u cant prove something all the way, so no intention from me to prove anything, i just wrote the numbers they claim and try to put my common sense and scienctific backup into it.
About my grows, VPN and all that other shit dont really work, dont u think i tried that ? but like i said i will post pics at this harvest, as im in day 63 today, and will post pics a couple of days from now when i harvest and everything is clean so i dont care if i get raided lol
lusidghost
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Yeah, I'm just calling you a pussy. I'm from a red state and I post pictures. They won't sentence me to death like in Malaysia though.What now ? im not from Malaysia bro
Good for you, i learned to SHUT UP about my growing, its not a death sentence here for that, but i value my freedom more then any plant on this earth, so if that serve you good to put pics and everything be my guest, i sure love seeing them so i appreciate you for that.
Still, im a man of my word, you will see pics
Still, im a man of my word, you will see pics
And you will see that even though i hate LEDs for flower, my current grow uses 2 X 780W panels above a 4 X 8
i got em from a friend who has a hydro shop and gave them to me to check out before he start selling them in bulk in my country
In Veg i had the biggest leafs i could ever see from any light i used, also growing pretty damn rapidly under it, not too much in plant mess and branches just the pace of it looked good at the time and heat managment was good so i prefer them for veg from now on
LEDs def have a place in my grows, just not in my flower tent
i got em from a friend who has a hydro shop and gave them to me to check out before he start selling them in bulk in my country
In Veg i had the biggest leafs i could ever see from any light i used, also growing pretty damn rapidly under it, not too much in plant mess and branches just the pace of it looked good at the time and heat managment was good so i prefer them for veg from now on
LEDs def have a place in my grows, just not in my flower tent
lusidghost
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What country?
bk78
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Germany?
Billy the Mountain
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VPNs and "that other shit" work exactly as expected: the only traffic visible is an encrypted connection between your device and VPN provider. If not, you need a new VPN host.
It's also trivial to strip EXIF data from a photo, from Windows via the file explorer: properties, details, remove personal info.
For Linux "exiftool -all= myfile.jpg"
Yeah i used VPN just cant seem to make it load pages right, i used all kinds of software but i run Win XP on my comp (dont laugh)
So i dont have compatibility to do nothing, i find it amazing that firefox even loads RIU cuz most of the time its just telling me to update my broswer and OS hahaahah those fuckers !! i will not do so, i love my Win XP ! lol
after i saw the article on CBS i think it was about how google track everything even when ur cell is off or without sim in it, even without connecting to a WIFI, this people put antennas in all this phones and new comp, they are standalone apart from power supply of wifi connection, they think they are smart, but i have a NOKIA 2G at hand
So i dont have compatibility to do nothing, i find it amazing that firefox even loads RIU cuz most of the time its just telling me to update my broswer and OS hahaahah those fuckers !! i will not do so, i love my Win XP ! lol
after i saw the article on CBS i think it was about how google track everything even when ur cell is off or without sim in it, even without connecting to a WIFI, this people put antennas in all this phones and new comp, they are standalone apart from power supply of wifi connection, they think they are smart, but i have a NOKIA 2G at hand
Nope, and even if it did, who to say its in my house ?
The trail is far and blurred, thats how i like it here, you gotta know the forces that be
I know em way too well, and they know me, each bread crumb is just another thing for them to add to my record and cause me trouble
Really, i gave my word that u will see pics from this grow and only time (few days) will tell.
Also this is LED vs HPS thread not my grow journal so id like to keep it on that subject as it a place to share and learn not fight whos got what
So far its cool that people tell me im wrong but i want them to share their thoughts aswell, people think that other people start a debate to fight, no, its to learn and understand what is other people side of the story !
The trail is far and blurred, thats how i like it here, you gotta know the forces that be
I know em way too well, and they know me, each bread crumb is just another thing for them to add to my record and cause me trouble
Really, i gave my word that u will see pics from this grow and only time (few days) will tell.
Also this is LED vs HPS thread not my grow journal so id like to keep it on that subject as it a place to share and learn not fight whos got what
So far its cool that people tell me im wrong but i want them to share their thoughts aswell, people think that other people start a debate to fight, no, its to learn and understand what is other people side of the story !
dizzygirlio
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I'm obviously not an expert, but I've grown with both and I have a strong feeling the answer to this question is subjective to skillset, location, phenotype and grow medium. Probably an expert grower can use either and grow decent weed. Where I live, and with my skillset, HPS doesn't work. It's too hot. I grow in soil and am not super good at it so it takes awhile which means that even in the winter HPS doesn't work for me. By the time I work out all the problems I've created it's too hot again. Not to mention the lack of humidity where I live makes HPS even less helpful. LED's give me a full spectrum of light, a nice cool temp, aren't sensitive to my constant humidifier and my slow ass can take as long as I need to fix all my problems before I throw it into flower. I wouldn't dream of trying hydro again with an HPS in my area. With the algae and pythium it was a constant battle.
hotrodharley
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Are you taking the medication the doctors have prescribed?So, ive grown with both of them, and also see in other people threads (the LED ones) that weight increased due to more diodes giving light at more places but the bud itself and quality for me was shit and to be honest also in most of the LED journals i look it looks shit too, when i say shit i mean when comparing to HPS or MH, each LED grow i smoke and see is shit quality, i mean what can you expect from a diode that only make 250 Lm ??
according to the book of old LED myths and legends chapter 2, an array of many leds (like the 600W+ panels) give you a total lets say 100,000 Lm right ? wrong ! you just added 300+ 250 Lm diodes together lol, its quite embarrassing that people forget simple math and logic when it comes to spending money on bogus claims, i saw on another thread here a LED panel that claims 5000 umol for 5000 $$ hahahaha i wonder if i put 10K i will get 10K umol
And will never use them again, the only thing they do good is covering more space, but with what ? a low intensity small diode lol
i rather put 4 250W HPS on a 4 X 4 or even a 5 X 5 and get better results all day long, the only problem is heat, but i will take the 5-10% lose of light and power due to the glass in the airhood and some lower working temp for the bulb.
weight means nothing if most of it is leafy shit and not potent medicine, i dont care how long your trees are, its the med that counts, LED dont grow Meds like HPS, i dont know how people dont see it ?? look at LED flower and look at CMH or HPS flower, am i the only one who see the difference ?
They are all liars, in the bible it says that money will blind the just and the wise men, no exception in our times
First we started with 40-50 inch height recommendations, now the most expansive LEDs tell us to put them 5-6 inch from canopy ? so anyone with eyes in his head and some brain should know they are low intensity lights, next they will tell us to make the plants hug them for better penetration
Next they told us that they make 3000umol and 5000umol and it wont end there oh no the show must go on,
a 600 HPS will give you 2000 umol at 10 inch from canopy give or take, and under the hood itself not in the sides, that why HPS lacks the better light spreading of LED, but it makes up for it in creating and growing crazy potent ass MEDS
All in all i will never try LED again, such a waste of time
when they will show me a 250 or 400w diode that push more Lm then HPS maybe we meet again
but then they are back to the start as HPS does that today without waiting haha
PJ Diaz
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Cannabisco
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Hit the nail on the head with that statement & those are some of my main reasons as well & then some that I've already stated. Sure you can grow fire with HIDs, but it's just way more efficient for me with LEC & LED. Also I worry alot less about a fire hazard with leds.
Plus no more homemade accidental brandings from bumping into hps bulbs.
And spyder says 6 to 12
Read carefully they say for even spread, it doesn’t say if it’s Best at 18.
You will see them drop their heights over time, you cant avoid it with LEDs, you want something out your flower tent then you need to drop them to 6 inch at least, Remember thats what Spyder says not me.
hotrodharley - Lovely comment, filled with knowledge and wisdom, sure hope u stop by again <3
Read carefully they say for even spread, it doesn’t say if it’s Best at 18.
Ok so HLG dont, but common sense says that if the Spyder needs to be 6 inch to perform at its best then what does it says about other panels ?
You will see them drop their heights over time, you cant avoid it with LEDs, you want something out your flower tent then you need to drop them to 6 inch at least, Remember thats what Spyder says not me.
hotrodharley - Lovely comment, filled with knowledge and wisdom, sure hope u stop by again <3
rkymtnman
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my optimal ppfd is at 12" @ 100% output above canopy per the manufacturer.
PJ Diaz
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I could care less what Spyder says, because I've grown under both LED and HID lighting, and know what the reality is. If grown under optimal environmental conditions for each light in question, there is really no difference in quality. You have no idea what you're talking about.