First grow. Very stunted, should i bother topping?

[YoshiMike13]

I may be mistaken just not too many things will stunt growth on small plants. Personally I've never ran across anything but overwatering that will stunt growth for months. Most other issues the small plant will just die. The drooping and browning of tips is also a sign could be prolonged over watered. Ocean forest is hot it's what I use and have used for almost 5 years. Only have had one plant a very long time ago think it was too hot... probably something I did vs soil. You could also be phing water which isnt needed in organic mixes until you start a feeding regiment of liquid nutrients. If you ph a soil with a already neutral ph you could effect the rhizosphere negatively

So the whole PH thing is what messes with me the most lmao. So ffof is already ph treated, so for the time being, that means I don't have to worry about the ph? Ct tap water is hard so I have not been using it. Been using natural spring water and now that they're outside I used collected rain water

 

[GroBud]

So the whole PH thing is what messes with me the most lmao. So ffof is already ph treated, so for the time being, that means I don't have to worry about the ph? Ct tap water is hard so I have not been using it. Been using natural spring water and now that they're outside I used collected rain water

My water is hard with 700ppms I used to buy water from water dispensaries my dogs dont even drink our tap. I then bought a under sink ro system now I use tap. Either just let it sit for 24hrs or get a rv water filter for water hose.

Yes no need to ph mines 9.2 until soil is depleted of nutrients and liquids are used. Liquids are readily available for plant consumption. Nutrients have a soil availability ph. Need to ph those readily available nutrients so plants can uptake those nutrients. Organics dont feed plants, dry amendments feed microbes those microorganisms ph their environment.

I'll either get the cheap ones in a 2 pack and use both or the boogie blue. You can water directly from water hose, until you need to start phing water. Using spring you should be good unless you're buying that will get expensive. Using ro I ran into calmag issues using tap that stopped

 

[Herb & Suds]

So the whole PH thing is what messes with me the most lmao. So ffof is already ph treated, so for the time being, that means I don't have to worry about the ph? Ct tap water is hard so I have not been using it. Been using natural spring water and now that they're outside I used collected rain water

You can disregard ph growing outdoors in soil
Not something that is a concern
I never check it

 

[YoshiMike13]

You can disregard ph growing outdoors in soil
Not something that is a concern
I never check it
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Even though I'm growing in pots and not the ground?

 

[Herb & Suds]

Even though I'm growing in pots and not the ground?

In soil it is a nonissue

 

[YoshiMike13]

My water is hard with 700ppms I used to buy water from water dispensaries my dogs dont even drink our tap. I then bought a under sink ro system now I use tap. Either just let it sit for 24hrs or get a rv water filter for water hose.

Yes no need to ph mines 9.2 until soil is depleted of nutrients and liquids are used. Liquids are readily available for plant consumption. Nutrients have a soil availability ph. Need to ph those readily available nutrients so plants can uptake those nutrients. Organics dont feed plants, dry amendments feed microbes those microorganisms ph their environment.

I'll either get the cheap ones in a 2 pack and use both or the boogie blue. You can water directly from water hose, until you need to start phing water. Using spring you should be good unless you're buying that will get expensive. Using ro I ran into calmag issues using tap that stopped

Okay, word man. Thanks for all your help and info I appreciate it.

 

[YoshiMike13]

In soil it is a nonissue

Gotcha. Well thanks man

 

[GroBud]

The only thing I'd add is next grow even tho ocean forest does fine I prefer to start seeds in happy frog because I dont use mycorrhizae at transplant I'll water with mycorrhizae and molasses every 3 weeks like you would fulvic acid. Happy frog has mycorrhizae in it. Thatll help roots get off to a better start.

 

[Hollatchaboy]

@Hollatchaboy what's kashi? I googled it, cereal bars?

Basically the same, grokashi, kashi blend. It helps create fungal dominance.

 

[DrDukePHD]

Look into living organic soil. Dry organic fertilizer like bas craft blend, Dr. Earth, or down to earth. One of those and some quality earthworm castings and some kashi. Throw some mulch over that, and you're on your way. Let the soil do all the work, and grow the plant for you.

Any thoughts on Gaia Green? That's what i bought at the grow shop up the street.

 

[GroBud]

Nutrients are nutrients when used accordingly by directions and plants response

 

[austin98]

Any thoughts on Gaia Green? That's what i bought at the grow shop up the street.

generally significantly more expensive than dr earth for the same thing

 

[Hollatchaboy]

Any thoughts on Gaia Green? That's what i bought at the grow shop up the street.

I've not used it, but I've heard good things about it.

 

[bam0813]

Any thoughts on Gaia Green? That's what i bought at the grow shop up the street.

Just curious and im sure you probably already know but did you shop around first. Local hydro stores , atleast around here are the best place to get bent over and taken dry. I wont go there unless it needs getting NOW which isn’t often at all

 

[GroBud]

That sucks our hydro store is completely different. They may not carry every brand of everything I use there but for the most part that's where I shop at to save money.

 

[DrDukePHD]

Just curious and im sure you probably already know but did you shop around first. Local hydro stores , atleast around here are the best place to get bent over and taken dry. I wont go there unless it needs getting NOW which isn’t often at all

One grow shop charges $25 for Ocean Forest, another charges $17.99. So yea i know what you mean, lots of them are rip-off stations. I only get soil there mostly & i picked up two little pales of Gaia for $29 each. Where do you buy your fertilizer from? I'm definitely open to using other places for sure.

 

[bam0813]

Im normally organic inputs. Dry mostly but ive been trying plain ole jacks indoors. When i first started i used the fancy bottles cooked the wallet and my plants hahaha noob error on both accounts . I source my stuff from local farms and farm and garden type places. The hydro stores, especially newer ones know why your there and bank on noobs or people who just gotta have it .

 

[bam0813]

You probably wont find Gaia there but dr earth , down to earth , jobes etc all day.

 

[bam0813]

Wanna say last time i was at the local hydro a small box of down to earth was in mid twenties lol

 

[bam0813]

And that was before all the shit of past few yrs