ComfortCreator
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I like this guy actually. You make a fair point. But I could tell he doesnt know because he asked the question he did...how do I just follow 1 2 3 to get the best result? No farmer believes that.
Is there an answer for perfect light cycle from the start to the end?
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lusidghost
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I've been on this forum for nearly 3 decades and I've never seen anyone try to make such an easily debunkable claim.
Frank Nitty
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If he's been growing for 10 plus years, shouldn't he know the answer already???
PadawanWarrior
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6 years since you joined,
. Is that meth math?
lusidghost
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If I were on meth I would drive nonstop across this beautiful country for the next 20-something hours to hunt you down and see if you'd talk all of that math to my twitchy picked apart face.6 years since you joined,
PadawanWarrior
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I'm in Conifer. Let me know when you're coming,
lusidghost
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If I was on meth this would be you.I'm in Conifer. Let me know when you're coming,
lusidghost
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ComfortCreator
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Dont know if you are a sports fan but look at the NBA. Can any NBA player tell you exactly how to be the best? Nope. They dont know. They know what they do and everybody else...and they spend most of their time trying new things to become better. It is somewhat scientific now, but how and why Steph Curry can shoot instantly from 10 feet behind the 3pt line and make so many isnt because he followed a formula. He developed a plan custom tailored to him.Ofc different veg styles result in different results, that's no debate because i've tried different styles so much, but my current grow is in 5 gallon air pots filled with 30% coco / 70% soil (soil being BioBizz All Mix that has all kind of different stuff mixed in it, seriously it's the best soil i've ever had when you mix it with coco to get the mix lighter, and you don't need nutes for a long time when you have it, it's so nice to start new plants with, and then slowly start giving nutes when the soil can't support the plants)
If that study is right, and i know it is at least some way, that means giving photoperiods (did they use photos btw?) 18/6 instead of 24h is far superior because of the stretching. Why would anyone wanna grow slow stretching plants that can't be manipulated faster and easier? How about testing other cycles and how they behave, they could give superior info about lights.
Do you have the actual full source in hand?
And yeah btw i've grown about 10 years, much more than the average growers, so i've getting hang of the whole thing and i use multiple tactics to manipulate my plants so i get the biggest plants with more colas than i can even sometimes handle. So don't treat me like a new grower please, i'm just trying to maximize my light cycles if that gives me even better results. The "standard" cycles hsve treated me very well with adjusting my quantum boards to give pretty much perfect amount light with the right distance, so it's easy to bend the plants, crop them etc. so they grow fast and easy without any problems. Don't even remember having any problems in a long time. One plant comes in to my mind because i wasn't giving it enough nutes but the plant recover pretty fast after that.
The whole idea of this thread was to maximize the "normal" growers light cycles to get the ultimate results. We aren't growing in labs aren't we? And if we get more data how the plants behave under different light cycles (assuming the testings places are identical and near perfect conditions).
I want to know how the plants behave under from the start to the finish, because flowrering is also a part of the results i wanna see. Mutiple growers use different cycles in flowering stage too, but there's no actual data behind it.
A young player will follow guides, coaches and instincts to learn to be great. He cannot follow a 1 2 3 because it doesn't work like that.
With that said, we arent growing blind. We know very well ranges, basic concepts and how some of the elements interact. Life has many things that require skill and experience and growing plants is one of them.
You ask for a light guide, I have told you 3 times Fluence has a study that gives you ranges for temps, humidity and light levels. They dont pinpoint it to 1 number...because there isnt one! 78f hasnt been exhaustively studied vs 79f, if you get my drift. But growing at 70f vs 80f has been.
1000000 people grow a plant and talk about that process, wisdom is gleaned and refined over time. Life and nature are still a mystery.
rkymtnman
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rkymtnman
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i drive that way on my way up to denver usually. you are basically right at Red Rocks Amphitheater when you come down the mountain. lol.
PadawanWarrior
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What do you mean "Way up"? You mean way down?
bk78
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You should stop by and share a spliff one day with the homie.
rkymtnman
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are you talking compass directions or altitude?
rkymtnman
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not a bad idea...
PadawanWarrior
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Altitude. I assume you lived higher than Denver. Have you ever stopped at Wing Wagon on your way through? I'm debating between a burger and a gyro that I'm about to order. They got good shit there. Their specialty is wings, but it's all good.
bk78
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He’s the one loitering around town on a one wheel.
rkymtnman
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i will keep my eye out for 1 wheelers. lol.