SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

[2cent]

So it’s basically an oxy pot but with a fabric pot on top and net pot filled with pearlite ??

I was contiplating recirculating it slowly like a stream
4big tubs 2 connected each side to control bucket
and recirc pump 1000 to the end 2tubs it would just slowly drain back to the control with gravity right ??

so I can run overflow tube at the air gap back to control too just in case of anything overfilling or blocking

but basically you don’t need the pipe tubes in the bottom there just to give room to a permanently homed sips water right ?

if it’s in a bucket in a bucket it’s kinda doing the same thing ?

like my pic here ..the big square in the middle is my 200gal bed cooking I’m trying to grow around it

 

[GenericEnigma]

So it’s basically an oxy pot but with a fabric pot on top and net pot filled with pearlite ??

I was contiplating recirculating it slowly like a stream
4big tubs 2 connected each side to control bucket
and recirc pump 1000 to the end 2tubs it would just slowly drain back to the control with gravity right ??

so I can run overflow tube at the air gap back to control too just in case of anything overfilling or blocking

but basically you don’t need the pipe tubes in the bottom there just to give room to a permanently homed sips water right ?

if it’s in a bucket in a bucket it’s kinda doing the same thing ?

like my pic here ..the big square in the middle is my 200gal bed cooking I’m trying to grow around it

That's a pretty cool idea.

You growing in soil? What holds the weight of the fabric pots, the net pots?

I don't know if I would bother with circulation.

Not totally sure what pipes in the bottom you mean, but the short upright pipes are more structual than anything, I think.

I haven't wicked using perlite. Will the fabric pots have to be smaller than the net pots so they can sit down in a depression, or will they wick well just being in contact?

 

[2cent]

That's a pretty cool idea.

You growing in soil? What holds the weight of the fabric pots, the net pots?

I don't know if I would bother with circulation.

Not totally sure what pipes in the bottom you mean, but the short upright pipes are more structual than anything, I think.

I haven't wicked using perlite. Will the fabric pots have to be smaller than the net pots so they can sit down in a depression, or will they wick well just being in contact?

well my idea sits with this
them buckets if you sit 1 inside the other leaves a 2inch gap
netpots I have are strong and have screw mounts I can screw to the other bucket bottom

so I’d screw netnpot to a bucket base and cut out hole
cover in weed membrane inside the net pot to stop pearlite exiting and help wick and fill pearlite into the bucket for 1 inch

now my fabric pots fit snug in the bucket with finger room and are sat on pearlite removable if needed via fabric pot or bucket it sits in to see water level

I planned to recirc as I hate air stones it would stop stagnant water forming and increase oxygen without infiltrating the soil like the air stone method in soil did on the video
also keeps the level topped up lol again not needed but possible

by pipes I wouldn’t need the vertical one as it has a control res I mean I’d have the main water connection but always I run overflow pipes invade of floods or in this case invade of overfill but this will return to the res control as I can’t run it on my carpet but if recirculating it would allow it to return and not fill the airgap

 

[GenericEnigma]

well my idea sits with this
them buckets if you sit 1 inside the other leaves a 2inch gap
netpots I have are strong and have screw mounts I can screw to the other bucket bottom

so I’d screw netnpot to a bucket base and cut out hole
cover in weed membrane inside the net pot to stop pearlite exiting and help wick and fill pearlite into the bucket for 1 inch

now my fabric pots fit snug in the bucket with finger room and are sat on pearlite removable if needed via fabric pot or bucket it sits in to see water level

I planned to recirc as I hate air stones it would stop stagnant water forming and increase oxygen without infiltrating the soil like the air stone method in soil did on the video
also keeps the level topped up lol again not needed but possible

by pipes I wouldn’t need the vertical one as it has a control res I mean I’d have the main water connection but always I run overflow pipes invade of floods or in this case invade of overfill but this will return to the res control as I can’t run it on my carpet but if recirculating it would allow it to return and not fill the airgap

Hell yeah. With the float valve, the reservoir/net pot wouldn't have to be very deep. If you've got a reliable float valve and everything's tight, I think it's worth a shot. It's kind of a closed, automatic system.

Keep us posted.

 

[MrsJake]

Hi @MrsJake ,
I believe there are diy plans at the beginning of this thread. Here is a link to another: http://albopepper.com/30-gallon-tote.php that you can use as a basis. Hope this helps, but let me know if you have questions.

Thank you!

Hi @MrsJake ,
I believe there are diy plans at the beginning of this thread. Here is a link to another: http://albopepper.com/30-gallon-tote.php that you can use as a basis. Hope this helps, but let me know if you have questions.

@CrunchBerries Thank you so much!

 

[CWF]

For my own curiosity, I dumped out my Earthbox after the last grow. I saved all the soil into a clean bin to use again. It is too hot and humid to start anything until end of August in my circumstances.

The plant,, which was planted closer to the end of the EB opposite the fill tube, had sent most of it's roots down the closest wick corner. There were almost no roots at the other end wick, but the top where I top-dressed was heavy with fine roots. This suggests to me I could do two plants per EB if I veg less.

The plant was vigorous throughout the grow, and stayed real green until the end, so I think the soil is good to go again. I'll prob add a bit of silica mineral and micronutrients, and maybe a bit of hi-N amendment, and a bit more aeration. Trying to find cheap pumice near me. Then run with it when it cools off a bit. Something really fuelly-skunky this time. Puck x Sensi Star or Guerilla Fume'.

 

[Smscreations]

After finally reading thru this entire thread, I decided to jump on the SIP wagon. Putting some DIY totes to the test in the new cabinet.

Got a journal going for it as well Laundry Storage Closet....Not for Laundry





Thank to all that contributed to this thread!!

Cheers!!

 

[Hollatchaboy]

Just out of curiousity, what's the thoughts on using a sip, with coco, and hydro nutes?

 

[myke]

Just out of curiousity, what's the thoughts on using a sip, with coco, and hydro nutes?

Really not much different then soil and top feeding salt,my one batch of sips with tomatoes is fed salts from above.Seams to be OK,I have been feeding light though.

A friend has some in a green house,weed and tomatoes.He feeds salts in res but not much,last I looked they appear hungry.

 

[Hollatchaboy]

Really not much different then soil and top feeding salt,my one batch of sips with tomatoes is fed salts from above.Seams to be OK,I have been feeding light though.

A friend has some in a green house,weed and tomatoes.He feeds salts in res but not much,last I looked they appear hungry.

Well my thinking is, coco isn't supposed to get dry. In a sip it mostly never would. The only problem I can see, would be the flushing of the old nutes and replacing with fresh.

 

[myke]

Well my thinking is, coco isn't supposed to get dry. In a sip it mostly never would. The only problem I can see, would be the flushing of the old nutes and replacing with fresh.

Ya Im waiting for mine to show over feed,so far so good.
Would be just a matter of using the right amount at the right time I guess.Over feed and ya you'd have to have a way to flush I guess?

 

[Hollatchaboy]

Ya Im waiting for mine to show over feed,so far so good.
Would be just a matter of using the right amount at the right time I guess.Over feed and ya you'd have to have a way to flush I guess?

Sounds too difficult. Lol

 

[GenericEnigma]

I want to show you all some ad hoc madness.

Since it's 100dF or more each day, I can't keep my reservoir full (lol, I called it a reservoir). So I pulled out my water timer/valve and put it in the middle of a siphon hose.

 

[Smscreations]

Still have the ladies in little one gallon pots sitting in the SIPs. First picture you can see the 2- 2 inch wicks have helped saturated the entire tote until about a 1/2inch below my top dress layer. Temp was high and humidty low in the box that day. Few more nodes on the end ones and I wanna get them into the SIPs that way I can top everyone down to the same height.

 

[LordEnki]

15 days growth... I'm quite happy with my SIP so far. I don't know why I didn't use em sooner!

 

[myke]

Gearing up for another run jars are low,clones are potted in 2g with last runs dirt.
Probably going with 27g tote in tote sips,2 plants in ea.

Cleaning and organizing has begun,so much useless shit in my space.Why I keep it I have no idea.

 

[GenericEnigma]

Gearing up for another run jars are low,clones are potted in 2g with last runs dirt.
Probably going with 27g tote in tote sips,2 plants in ea.

Cleaning and organizing has begun,so much useless shit in my space.Why I keep it I have no idea.

Right on. I just cleaned up my tent yesterday.

Shocked to see water in the reservoirs and life in the soil. The SIPS have been sitting in the dark ignored for three months.

Got some clones from that big outdoor plant - which I chopped. It was already taller than my fence and just starting to stretch. Scared of rippers around here.

Looks like we're in about the same spot. What did you clone?

 

[Hollatchaboy]

Right on. I just cleaned up my tent yesterday.

Shocked to see water in the reservoirs and life in the soil. The SIPS have been sitting in the dark ignored for three months.

Got some clones from that big outdoor plant - which I chopped. It was already taller than my fence and just starting to stretch. Scared of rippers around here.

Looks like we're in about the same spot. What did you clone?

I just chopped my cover crop, and added about 3/4 cup craft blend, and about 1/8 cup kashi blend, covered it, and I'll let it sit a few weeks while I wait for a clone to root and veg a lil.

 

[Smscreations]

Transplanted into the SIPs on Sunday evening
Gorilla Zkittlez was rootbound in her 1 gallon pot and not happy lol.


Here they are about an hour ago. Safe to say they are loving their new digs.




Got some rice wash sitting to makes some LAB next week to put down in the reservoirs. If I'm sitting at right about 2 gallons of water in reservoir, how much of the LABs should I put down there??

 

[Hollatchaboy]

Transplanted into the SIPs on Sunday evening
Gorilla Zkittlez was rootbound in her 1 gallon pot and not happy lol.
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Here they are about an hour ago. Safe to say they are loving their new digs.

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Got some rice wash sitting to makes some LAB next week to put down in the reservoirs. If I'm sitting at right about 2 gallons of water in reservoir, how much of the LABs should I put down there??


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I think I added an ounce per gallon of em1. Should be about the same for you.