Why does this keep happening with this bagseed? (maybe thats why!)

twentyeight.threefive

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If manhandling to you is let it squirm through a surface then gently placed into a media which with my expirience is the growth spurt phase of which it tells you visually “I am happy and love my surroundings!” lol. This time around, I could not of done better and they just ain’t right. I am lower level expirience which means all I need to be working with are plants ready to be worked with.

This thread is an atrempt to learn somethung extra since all the details can be provided in that run. All I am hearing is it is a shitty seed. I germinated many many bag seeds, this one takes the best of the best, or again, “the germination challenge” to achieve. 6 seeds all did the same thing, tellin ya. something out of the ordinary going on.
If they all did the same thing what do you think the common denominator is? It’s bag seed, you don’t even know if those seeds were mature when the plant was harvested.
 

medidedicated

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If they all did the same thing what do you think the common denominator is? It’s bag seed, you don’t even know if those seeds were mature when the plant was harvested.
One or two might make it, things are going for them way more than last time. By sticking to what I do, but really wished I had one more just to show yall, it most likely would do the same thing. I know what makes a seed worth trying to germinate, the floating tip is new to me but yeah it was hearty looking. I used to help germinate which explains why for as new as I am, that I seem to have a lot of expirience and confidence germinating and planting and raising young plants. Flowering is still new to me though I am confident with LST just not as much with short node indicas.
 

medidedicated

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So you can look at a seed and tell if it’s worth germination? That’s pretty impressive. Can you tell the sex by it’s shape also?
I can tell by looking at it and applying some pressure to see if it caves in. Gently of course. It is worth putting into some towels in a dark humid warm place indoors to see if it turns out like the good paid for seedling I posted on here. Do you need to prepare coco first? Ok maybe not too much to ask for then. Oh it sprouted with true leaves! Plants into cup. Look at the few days worth of pics on my purple banana cream up to date. That look worth your time? continue to sex out? Oh it was female due to stress, plant hermied and finished up a naturally fem seed? There you go, worth your time and moving forward. Oh, you did not get past step one? there you go too.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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I can tell by looking at it and applying some pressure to see if it caves in. Gently of course. It is worth putting into some towels in a dark humid warm place indoors to see if it turns out like the good paid for seedling I posted on here. Do you need to prepare coco first? Ok maybe not too much to ask for then. Oh it sprouted with true leaves! Plants into cup. Look at the few days worth of pics on my purple banana cream up to date. That look worth your time? continue to sex out? Oh it was female due to stress, plant hermied and finished up a naturally fem seed? There you go, worth your time and moving forward. Oh, you did not get past step one? there you go too.
Hey if you want to grow out hermied seeds all the power to you. Have fun.
 

medidedicated

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Hey if you want to grow out hermied seeds all the power to you. Have fun.
for some practice plant training and trying out methods on a plant I do not care for? Will do. Sorry, I did not know you participated on my thread just to conclude to something so pointless to say. Find other threads like this saying the same thing, someone will find the right thing to say with expirience you cannot push back on.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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for some practice plant training and trying out methods on a plant I do not care for? Will do. Sorry, I did not know you participated on my thread just to conclude to something so pointless to say. Find other threads like this saying the same thing, someone will find the right thing to say with expirience you cannot push back on.
Like I said to each their own. If that’s what you want to do with them go for it. Personally for me, it would be a waste of time and money. That’s what I was trying to say.

I tossed some hermied seeds in the ground for the fun of it. But they aren’t costing me a thing in time or money. They’ll just be cut down later anyways.
 

medidedicated

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I didn’t look up anything. You were the one that mentioned hermies and finishing growing them.
If you read the thread post, it is on if you have ever seen this with bagseed. It could of came from a pretty advanced garden that would of yielded me just fine for my level of flowering expirience. Many many journals in bag seed, just interpreted that as you think bagseeds arent fun just to mess with. Might give me something better than I have that I am looking for. Either way, we were. interacting on another thread and thought it was related but it still stands, thats close to trolling to put on a bag seed thread lol. unless it is a new grower who has high hopes for the plant.

If you genuinely mean that, I still do not make sense of that because people hermie on purpose for seeds.
 
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twentyeight.threefive

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If you read the thread post it is on if you have ever seen this with bagseed. It could if came from a pretty advanced garden that would of yielded me just fine for my level of flowering expirience. Many many journals in bag seed, just interpreted that as you think bagseeds arent fun just to mess with. Might give me something better than I have that I am looking for. Either way, we were. interacting on another thread and thought it was related but it still stands, thats close to trolling to out on a bag seed thread lol.

If you genuinely mean that, I still do not make sense of that because people hermie on purpose for seeds.
In my opinion bagseed isn’t worth the time to mess with. If the seeds were the result of a hermied plant pollinating a female the resulting seeds would be more likely to herm.

I wouldn’t want to spend my time and money on something that would turn out to be less than what I’m looking for.

My last photo regular seed run I had the genetics hermie on me, I wasn’t happy. Just the result of seed companies chucking pollen to make the latest greatest cross and not breeding them out to something stable.
 

medidedicated

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In my opinion bagseed isn’t worth the time to mess with. If the seeds were the result of a hermied plant pollinating a female the resulting seeds would be more likely to herm.

I wouldn’t want to spend my time and money on something that would turn out to be less than what I’m looking for.

My last photo regular seed run I had the genetics hermie on me, I wasn’t happy. Just the result of seed companies chucking pollen to make the latest greatest cross and not breeding them out to something stable.
Alright sorry, thought you were trolling, I have not been yet but see new soc accounts and activity so. If I can trouble you for one question, What if you germinated those seeds, not a chain reaction to me? this is news to me based on my limited applied research on breeding. I will soon, was going to try the special solution method to grow sacs with fem genetics or buy and grow a male.
 

medidedicated

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In my opinion bagseed isn’t worth the time to mess with. If the seeds were the result of a hermied plant pollinating a female the resulting seeds would be more likely to herm.

I wouldn’t want to spend my time and money on something that would turn out to be less than what I’m looking for.

My last photo regular seed run I had the genetics hermie on me, I wasn’t happy. Just the result of seed companies chucking pollen to make the latest greatest cross and not breeding them out to something stable.
Oh okay misread one part. Totally made a fool of my self too. I see many bag seed journals that turned out fine and worthy of the time. I looked into breeding then quit to focus on other things, screw bag seed I totally see what you’re saying. The correct answer to the thread is toss them. I should give the germination method a try if yall think it is that detrimental to them but damn, never gave me issues. I see things differently about seeds now, damn. I think you were the one that told me about male seeds being easier.

I thought I was right because I know someone personally that would grow all my bag seed and wow they must be far in the game by now. Wish I still knew them. They would always tell me when I gave them a gold mine and at the time I was just smokin it. Did not know much at all about growing and still have a lot to learn to he close to respectable, for now just a guy with useful tips or else I would not share.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Oh okay misread one part. Totally made a fool of my self too. I see many bag seed journals that turned out fine and worthy of the time. I looked into breeding then quit to focus on other things, screw bag seed I totally see what you’re saying. The correct answer to the thread is toss them. I should give the germination method a try if yall think it is that detrimental to them but damn, never gave me issues. I see things differently about seeds now, damn. I think you were the one that told me about male seeds being easier.

I thought I was right because I know someone personally that would grow all my bag seed and wow they must be far in the game by now. Wish I still knew them. They would always tell me when I gave them a gold mine and at the time I was just smokin it. Did not know much at all about growing and still have a lot to learn to he close to respectable, for now just a guy with useful tips or else I would not share.
Some of the awesome strains came from bagseed. Take the Chem's for example. So you can find gems sometimes.
 

medidedicated

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Some of the awesome strains came from bagseed. Take the Chem's for example. So you can find gems sometimes.
Yeah but OP is right, and I was a fool up to now germinating these, and I am one of the more dedicated ones from what I see which legal and property ownership tends to draw the line on as well as those that really really cannot afford half the things you need. I have it all, and these could grow nanners before I can notice and screw up my whole garden, I just stepped out of doing research on breeding to find that is out my reach.

I need to just be a general know how of a strain growing guy and when cloning or breeding progresses within my skills, mothering plants and pheno hunting, working with pollen and etc will be on top of my todo list. Not even done buying the basics, but I am going fairly big so I need big supplies. Flowering is still new to me so I should stay in my lane lol. Before buying 700$ lights and paying for all those watts for a struggling garden.
 

medidedicated

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Some of the awesome strains came from bagseed. Take the Chem's for example. So you can find gems sometimes.
Not to mention, the worse that can happen is they only grow kernel tips, so nit even close to a seed but enough to create harsh impurities in ur weed that you just cannot, cannot take out for the life of you.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Yeah but OP is right, and I was a fool up to now germinating these, and I am one of the more dedicated ones from what I see which legal and property ownership tends to draw the line on as well as those that really really cannot afford half the things you need. I have it all, and these could grow nanners before I can notice and screw up my whole garden, I just stepped out of doing research on breeding to find that is out my reach.

I need to just be a general know how of a strain growing guy and when cloning or breeding progresses within my skills, mothering plants and pheno hunting, working with pollen and etc will be on top of my todo list. Not even done buying the basics, but I am going fairly big so I need big supplies. Flowering is still new to me so I should stay in my lane lol. Before buying 700$ lights and paying for all those watts for a struggling garden.
What? You are the OP though.

I didn't read it all, but it looks like you're doing the paper towel method. I'd just plant them straight in the coco and keep moist. Seedlings are delicate.
 

medidedicated

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Twentyeight five , just above your first comment.

This is why I would not continue, can cause herms in your whole house and if the herms do not develop at all hardly, you harvest harsh weed with bits of seed kernel in it. Reason I quit buying from people in the past.
 

medidedicated

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What? You are the OP though.

I didn't read it all, but it looks like you're doing the paper towel method. I'd just plant them straight in the coco and keep moist. Seedlings are delicate.
Twenty eight five, above your first comment, was explaining why bag seeds are a no go for most people.
 
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