January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

Roger A. Shrubber

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Wonder what surprise we'll have this October?:wink:
there's going to end up being so much shit revealed that they'll have to print a handbook to keep it all clear, with cross references and foot notes...
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didn't notice at first, but look at the front of that book, just slightly right and below center...i see a demonic skull...in fact, it looks like there are arcane runes all over that book...how appropriate...
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
gasp

Do you mean to say that Trump was not tried and imprisoned four years ago as DIY predicted back then?
I believe that right around then, our contact with other narratives in this quantum destiny-bundle went completely opaque. Somewhere he is, but not in our narrative*. I wish we could have asked about unintended consequences.

*at least not in mine. Almost certainly not in yours. DIY is a little deeper in the quantum fuzz from my vantage, so ~shrug~
 

V256.420

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there's going to end up being so much shit revealed that they'll have to print a handbook to keep it all clear, with cross references and foot notes...
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didn't notice at first, but look at the front of that book, just slightly right and below center...i see a demonic skull...in fact, it looks like there are arcane runes all over that book...how appropriate...
I see a penis, but I see them everywhere :rolleyes:
 

printer

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DC man who assaulted police on Jan. 6 sentenced to five-year prison term
A Washington, D.C.-area man has been sentenced to five years in prison for assaulting police officers during the Jan 6, 2021, attack at the Capitol.

Mark K. Ponder was sentenced on Tuesday in a D.C. court after pleading guilty to assaulting three police officers during the insurrection, according to a Department of Justice (DOJ) news release.

Court documents state that at approximately 2:31 p.m. on Jan. 6, Ponder ran out from the crowd of other rioters who stormed the West Plaza of the building to swing a long, thin pole at a Capitol Police officer in the area.

Ponder’s action resulted in the officer’s riot shield, which he used to protect himself, breaking into two pieces, with part of the pole Ponder used flying off to the side.

Moments after heading back into the rioting crowd, Ponder rearmed himself with a new, thicker pole that was colored with red, white and blue stripes. The DOJ said that around 2:32 p.m., he used the new weapon to assault another Capitol police officer, who also blocked the move with his riot shield.

At approximately 2:48 p.m., Ponder joined a rioting crowd that faced off against a line of Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) officers at the Capitol’s Upper West Terrace, using the same striped pole to swing at the MPD line and strike a police officer in the shoulder.

Ponder’s sentencing comes after authorities have arrested more than 850 individuals for their involvement in the Capitol insurrection, which resulted in the deaths of five people. Two hundred and sixty of those individuals have been charged with assaulting or impeding law enforcement on that day.

Ponder, 56, was arrested by authorities roughly two months after the insurrection, pleading guilty to assaulting, resisting or impeding officers using a dangerous weapon in April.

In addition to his five-year prison sentence, Ponder must pay restitution of $2,000 and will be placed on supervised release for three years following the end of his prison term, the DOJ said.
 

schuylaar

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L is for Leupold, a well known optics maker(rifle scopes)
the green and red stripe is supposed to mean you show support for military and fire fighters, the blue is for law enforcement...dunno if there is a "clandestine" meaning or not
Thank you. That's why I asked. For a layman it could be misconstrued in our current political climate of guns, guns, guns.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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It's really sad that those who are doing jobs that we pay them for deserve the Medal of Freedom (suggested for Pence). When did we start the practice of congratulating for not being Fascist in a Democracy?
it started in the early 90s, when psychologist convinced everyone that telling kids that came in last place that they were still winners was a good idea...
 

schuylaar

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DC man who assaulted police on Jan. 6 sentenced to five-year prison term
A Washington, D.C.-area man has been sentenced to five years in prison for assaulting police officers during the Jan 6, 2021, attack at the Capitol.

Mark K. Ponder was sentenced on Tuesday in a D.C. court after pleading guilty to assaulting three police officers during the insurrection, according to a Department of Justice (DOJ) news release.

Court documents state that at approximately 2:31 p.m. on Jan. 6, Ponder ran out from the crowd of other rioters who stormed the West Plaza of the building to swing a long, thin pole at a Capitol Police officer in the area.

Ponder’s action resulted in the officer’s riot shield, which he used to protect himself, breaking into two pieces, with part of the pole Ponder used flying off to the side.

Moments after heading back into the rioting crowd, Ponder rearmed himself with a new, thicker pole that was colored with red, white and blue stripes. The DOJ said that around 2:32 p.m., he used the new weapon to assault another Capitol police officer, who also blocked the move with his riot shield.

At approximately 2:48 p.m., Ponder joined a rioting crowd that faced off against a line of Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) officers at the Capitol’s Upper West Terrace, using the same striped pole to swing at the MPD line and strike a police officer in the shoulder.

Ponder’s sentencing comes after authorities have arrested more than 850 individuals for their involvement in the Capitol insurrection, which resulted in the deaths of five people. Two hundred and sixty of those individuals have been charged with assaulting or impeding law enforcement on that day.

Ponder, 56, was arrested by authorities roughly two months after the insurrection, pleading guilty to assaulting, resisting or impeding officers using a dangerous weapon in April.

In addition to his five-year prison sentence, Ponder must pay restitution of $2,000 and will be placed on supervised release for three years following the end of his prison term, the DOJ said.
Perp walk.


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schuylaar

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it started in the early 90s, when psychologist convinced everyone that telling kids that came in last place that they were still winners was a good idea...
I must say we didn't have that shit but we know how to survive. Just walking downtown today, I noticed all those youngsters with their nose in their phones..they expect you to move so they can continue walking unencumbered and without looking up. That doesn't fly..I'll stand there until they look up and move the fuck out of my way.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Wonder what surprise we'll have this October?:wink:
Hopefully the J6 panel will drop one October surprise a day on Donald and his crew as they preach the big lie. Let's hope for an indictment finally in Georgia, timed for maximum impact, to blow the GOP wide open just before the election. Donald ain't running for any office this cycle, despite what he might say and is fully indictable the day before election day. He still has another month or more of Primaries to fuck with inside the GOP, promoting unelectable loyalists in their primaries and attacking other candidates. They wanna run on Foxnews created and spun culture wars issues, he wants to refight 2020 and can be easily manipulated into it.
 

schuylaar

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Hopefully the J6 panel will drop one October surprise a day on Donald and his crew as they preach the big lie. Let's hope for an indictment finally in Georgia, timed for maximum impact, to blow the GOP wide open just before the election. Donald ain't running for any office this cycle, despite what he might say and is fully indictable the day before election day. He still has another month or more of Primaries to fuck with inside the GOP, promoting unelectable loyalists in their primaries and attacking other candidates. They wanna run on Foxnews created and spun culture wars issues, he wants to refight 2020 and can be easily manipulated into it.
Some of the best legal minds in Congress are on the J6; there is a strategy to this and I can't wait for it to continue to unfold.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Great, explain why Trump hasn't been indicted over the obstruction of justice mentioned in the Mueller report, or witness tampering and intimidation on a dozen occasions. As they say, justice delayed is justice denied, but there are good reasons for delay, while staying inside the boundaries of the law. These to an extent are political crimes and must be tried in the court of public opinion too and accountability is also at the ballot box, not just in court.
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Garland Vows Everyone Responsible For Jan. 6 Will Be Held Accountable
79,235 views Jul 26, 2022 In an exclusive interview with Lester Holt, Attorney General Merrick Garland said that all parties responsible for the Jan. 6 insurrection will be held criminally accountable. When pressed by Holt if former President Trump could be included in that, even if he is a presidential candidate once again, Garland deflected, saying any person responsible would be held accountable.
 
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Fogdog

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I believe that right around then, our contact with other narratives in this quantum destiny-bundle went completely opaque. Somewhere he is, but not in our narrative*. I wish we could have asked about unintended consequences.

*at least not in mine. Almost certainly not in yours. DIY is a little deeper in the quantum fuzz from my vantage, so ~shrug~
ah yes, so true

Quantum mechanics. At every nexus, where two or more outcomes are possible, both occur and two or more realities go forward. DIY lives in different reality than I. In mine, Trump was not charged and convicted of crimes four years ago. He was not impeached and removed from office (twice) Trump did lose the election in 2020 and did not prevail in his attempted coup. At each and every point, the opposite outcome is also true and different realities go forward.

So it would seem that RIU is a portal through which people living in different realities are able to communicate.

This explains a lot.
 
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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
ah yes, so true

Quantum mechanics. At every nexus, where two outcomes are possible, both occur and two realities go forward. DIY lives in different reality than I. In mine, Trump was not charged and convicted of crimes four years ago. He was not impeached and removed from office (twice) Trump did lose the election in 2020 and did not prevail in his attempted coup. At each and every point, the opposite outcome is also true and different realities go forward.

So it would seem that RIU is a portal through which people are able to communicate.

This explains a lot.
I too live in one with the Teflon Traitor.
 

schuylaar

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I am not counting my chickens until convictions. Not even indictments are accepted at this point.

Your massive contributions on the topic are written to look like reason, but when I inspect, I find sentiment. This means that the argument of reason is distorted by current feelings that are different from the sentiment that sedimented one or two years ago. To this outside observer, this appears as “the goalposts” never being fixed, always precessing on more than one axis. So forgive me if I regard your declarations in re pandemic, war or insurrection as “factually incomplete and presented with overconfidence”, and the prognostications as largely losing wagers.

This could be much different if you openly analyzed your fails instead of litterboxing them. Then again … these glass walls are awesome for pitching practice …
Sentiment is what makes the writer..what is a story without?- I too enjoy dreaming of a day..the day. So I enjoy it.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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ah yes, so true

Quantum mechanics. At every nexus, where two outcomes are possible, both occur and two realities go forward. DIY lives in different reality than I. In mine, Trump was not charged and convicted of crimes four years ago. He was not impeached and removed from office (twice) Trump did lose the election in 2020 and did not prevail in his attempted coup. At each and every point, the opposite outcome is also true and different realities go forward.

So it would seem that RIU is a portal through which people are able to communicate.

This explains a lot.
Well now way back in the days of innocence most folks figured the courts and to an extent politics operated by certain "rules", many unspoken. I never realized the republicans were so broken as a party and as human beings, neither did a lot of other people. According to the rules in 2015, Trump should have been impeached in his first year, however the grip he has on the republican base only became apparent over time and several jaw dropping episodes.

In spite of everything I still have faith in America and it's institutions, though it has been shaken, when I start saying Trump will get away with it, that's when you'll know I've given up on you. If it wasn't for Trump screwing up so badly with covid and being such a POS, he'd still be president. He caught covid a few weeks before an election that was his to lose and he managed to do it and lose 2 seats in Georgia for the senate too. Hopefully Herschel will help the democrats keep one of those seats, he was Donald's doing and Donald is continuing to do it.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Sentiment is what makes the writer..what is a story without?- I too enjoy dreaming of a day..the day.
i am not arguing for an absence of sentiment. I am arguing that sentiment has no place in a reasoned discourse. Too many commit the fallacy of treating sentiment as equivalent to reason. Result: a history of human suffering of frightening constancy. The US is a bubble of relative welfare in the storm sea of history, and it seems to be imploding.

I really don’t wanna learn plowing behind oxen. Not counting nuclear potlatch, this is as bad as i can see it getting. Between extreme politics and the weather turning mean, I can see us knocked back to rhe eighteenth century, but with ancient smartphones long silenced, and rainbowy storage media (and perhaps a stone-dead tamagotchi) in a few family strongboxes.
 
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