January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

Roger A. Shrubber

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ah yes, so true

Quantum mechanics. At every nexus, where two or more outcomes are possible, both occur and two or more realities go forward. DIY lives in different reality than I. In mine, Trump was not charged and convicted of crimes four years ago. He was not impeached and removed from office (twice) Trump did lose the election in 2020 and did not prevail in his attempted coup. At each and every point, the opposite outcome is also true and different realities go forward.

So it would seem that RIU is a portal through which people living in different realities are able to communicate.

This explains a lot.
you know we're all the people living in shitty realities, the people living in good realities don't have time to waste on this kind of shit
 

DIY-HP-LED

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ah yes, so true

Quantum mechanics. At every nexus, where two or more outcomes are possible, both occur and two or more realities go forward. DIY lives in different reality than I. In mine, Trump was not charged and convicted of crimes four years ago. He was not impeached and removed from office (twice) Trump did lose the election in 2020 and did not prevail in his attempted coup. At each and every point, the opposite outcome is also true and different realities go forward.

So it would seem that RIU is a portal through which people living in different realities are able to communicate.

This explains a lot.
Seems the quantum probabilities are arranging into a matrix. Garland is making moves that are bound to scare Donald into announcing his run 2 years early.

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DIY-HP-LED

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‘Department Of Justice Began Eyeing Trump’ Slowly Washington Post Reporter Says
4,641 views Jul 26, 2022 In the latest news on Jan. 6 investigations, The Washington Post reports that the Justice Department is looking into former president Donald Trump's actions as part of a criminal probe, according to four people familiar with the situation. Carol Leonnig of The Washington Post, who reported on this breaking news story, and MSNBC legal analyst Paul Butler, join The ReidOut to discuss.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Looks like Joe is poking the stick at Trump and he must be looking to provoke him to announce his run for president in 2024. Recent legal news could have more of a effect on that decision however.


Biden Bites Back At Trump | Zerlina.
15,179 views Jul 26, 2022 Shermichael Singleton and Molly Jong-Fast weigh in on President Biden’s latest remarks on former President Trump and January 6th.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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'In Prep For Prosecution': DOJ's Grand Jury Questioning 'Dominated' By Trump WaPo Says
28,669 views Jul 27, 2022 Washington Post Investigative Reporter Carol Leonnig joins MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell to discuss her reporting that the Justice Department is investigating Donald Trump’s actions in its January 6th criminal probe. Leonnig noted her sources say the questioning of grand jury witnesses was laser-focused on Trump.
 

cannabineer

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Looks like Joe is poking the stick at Trump and he must be looking to provoke him to announce his run for president in 2024. Recent legal news could have more of a effect on that decision however.


Biden Bites Back At Trump | Zerlina.
15,179 views Jul 26, 2022 Shermichael Singleton and Molly Jong-Fast weigh in on President Biden’s latest remarks on former President Trump and January 6th.
That name always sets my train of thought to Serleena aka Germinator 2.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Why Mark Meadows May Have More Criminal Exposure Than Trump (And Why Trump Should Worry)
1,620 views Jul 27, 2022 Ryan Goodman, former special counsel at the Department of Defense and co-editor-in-chief of Just Security, talks about Donald Trump's criminal exposure for his actions and role in January 6th, and the potentially greater criminal exposure of his former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, which raises the possibility of Meadows flipping on Trump.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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If they are trying to bury them in irrelevant documents they are trying to hide things and they won't succeed. I'm surprised the head of the SS still has that fat job at snapchat he's suppose to move into, they have a morals clause in those contracts. He probably has a contract signed, but at the first sign of legal troubles they will use the morals clause to fire him. I can see a lot of online heat building to can Murry, if it looks like he's in shit or is indicted. Being Tony Ornado's friend appeared to be his only qualification for the job, Tony apparently had better prospects and passed it up when Trump offered the position to him.
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Secret Service Dumps 'Hundreds Of Thousands Of Documents' On January 6th Committee
111,661 views Jul 27, 2022 Rep. Zoe Lofgren, member of the January 6th Committee, talks about her questions and concerns about the Secret Service and its inspector general and reveals that the agency dumped hundreds of thousands of documents on the committee Tuesday morning.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I wouldn't expect indictments for Donald anytime soon, we are still some ways out from the general election and there are still many primaries to go, including Cheney's in August. I hope after she loses her primary, she runs as an independent, the democrats probably can't win it even if she divides the right. The heat is building on Donald and if he is gonna be spooked into announcing a run it should be soon. I'd like them to indict him for wire fraud over the stop the steal fundraising, they have a case for freezing his war chest and if he is convicted, seizing it. I suppose that could come later, but it would sure make Donald howl if he lost his cash cow, he's paying all those witness lawyers who are obstructing justice and suborning perjury, as well as other mounting legal expenses from that fraudulently obtained money.
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What AG Garland Told Lester Holt That Should Make Trump Worry
141,846 views Jul 27, 2022 Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe, who taught Merrick Garland when he was in law school, joins MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell to explain what he learned from the attorney general's interview with NBC News's Lester Holt.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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‘Justice Has Been Obstructed’ In Missing Secret Service Texts
70,043 views Jul 27, 2022 Jim Helminski, fmr. Deputy Assistant Director of the Secret Service, joins MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell to discuss the text message policy of the Secret Service after the agency tells The Last Word its policy is not to text government business.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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If they are trying to bury them in irrelevant documents they are trying to hide things and they won't succeed. I'm surprised the head of the SS still has that fat job at snapchat he's suppose to move into, they have a morals clause in those contracts. He probably has a contract signed, but at the first sign of legal troubles they will use the morals clause to fire him. I can see a lot of online heat building to can Murry, if it looks like he's in shit or is indicted. Being Tony Ornado's friend appeared to be his only qualification for the job, Tony apparently had better prospects and passed it up when Trump offered the position to him.
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Secret Service Dumps 'Hundreds Of Thousands Of Documents' On January 6th Committee
111,661 views Jul 27, 2022 Rep. Zoe Lofgren, member of the January 6th Committee, talks about her questions and concerns about the Secret Service and its inspector general and reveals that the agency dumped hundreds of thousands of documents on the committee Tuesday morning.
It's time to put the SS on notice, EVERYONE will be investigated, and those that deserve it will be prosecuted along with everyone else who aided and abetted trumps miserably failed coup attempt. I wonder if it ever occurs to secret service agents that they're protecting the integrity and honor of a man who has neither? And who is corrupting their integrity and honor? What little they have left, anyway.

send them a notice that if they can't sort things a little better, ALL of their records will be seized for analyses by security professionals, with no exception, and that ANY irregularities will be made public...
 

schuylaar

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i am not arguing for an absence of sentiment. I am arguing that sentiment has no place in a reasoned discourse. Too many commit the fallacy of treating sentiment as equivalent to reason. Result: a history of human suffering of frightening constancy. The US is a bubble of relative welfare in the storm sea of history, and it seems to be imploding.

I really don’t wanna learn plowing behind oxen. Not counting nuclear potlatch, this is as bad as i can see it getting. Between extreme politics and the weather turning mean, I can see us knocked back to rhe eighteenth century, but with ancient smartphones long silenced, and rainbowy storage media (and perhaps a stone-dead tamagotchi) in a few family strongboxes.
I believe it to always have been this way..it's just now with Social Media everything's on a jumbotron..even regular news reports on them..what went viral?.how many haters is the news of the day now?

What did we talk about before Social Media?
 
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schuylaar

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‘Justice Has Been Obstructed’ In Missing Secret Service Texts
70,043 views Jul 27, 2022 Jim Helminski, fmr. Deputy Assistant Director of the Secret Service, joins MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell to discuss the text message policy of the Secret Service after the agency tells The Last Word its policy is not to text government business.
Somehow deleted, yet always there..I bet it's on a server somewhere. Nothing is ever permanently gone..it's how bad do you want and what will you pay? I think I paid $3k years ago to get a Level 3 or 4.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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It's time to put the SS on notice, EVERYONE will be investigated, and those that deserve it will be prosecuted along with everyone else who aided and abetted trumps miserably failed coup attempt. I wonder if it ever occurs to secret service agents that they're protecting the integrity and honor of a man who has neither? And who is corrupting their integrity and honor? What little they have left, anyway.

send them a notice that if they can't sort things a little better, ALL of their records will be seized for analyses by security professionals, with no exception, and that ANY irregularities will be made public...
Trump like lawyers, got them in shit and corrupted them too, Donald would be fascinated by who had the guns (power) around him and would be probing for weaknesses among them, it's what he does. It will mean a house cleaning of the SS from top to bottom and everything will become known. I'm sure these clowns had enemies among the professionals in the service and they will be less reluctant to talk, plus ya never know about those text messages, all radio and cell traffic around the capitol could be recorded by someone and might be decrypted later. These guys will be under oath by several congressional committees, the FBI and grand juries, even the national archives wants a crack at their asses. Considering Donald took boxes of them home and used to flush so many documents that it took him several flushes to get rid of them and Meadows had a bond fire of files in the fireplace, or so it is said!

Hey what about those secret documents Donald had at Mar logo along with 15 boxes of other documents? If a secret service agent ever did that he would be wearing orange in the crowbar hotel ASAP. Shit these guys will be hung for deleting texts on their phones, while others on the government payroll will not, what about the text messages of the WH staff? All of them, were they deleted too? Where are the burner phones and who used them?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Somehow deleted, yet always there..I bet it's on a server somewhere. Nothing is ever permanently gone..it's how bad do you want and what will you pay? I think I paid $3k years ago to get a Level 3 or 4.
Memory used in phones if often difficult to delete completely unless it is over written, much can be recovered. Also radio and cell traffic is likely recorded by someone in the capitol area, but not decrypted. The potential is there for it to be broken out and decrypted at some point in the future, if it already hasn't been. The point is, when they put these guys under oath, they won't know what the investigators know, or might come to know and are much less likely to lie. I think the investigation will center around Tony Ornado and his buddy the director of the SS, who got his job because he was Tony's buddy. Tony moved on to an executive job in the SS and those two would have had the power to pull this shit off in the post J6 environment.
 

printer

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Former Pentagon chief: Trump gave no order to prepare troops before Jan. 6
Former acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller told the House panel investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol that then-President Trump gave no orders to prepare troops before that day.

In testimony shared by the committee Tuesday evening, Miller was asked about an assertion made by former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows that as many as 10,000 National Guard troops were told to be “on the ready” that day.

Miller said he was “never given any direction or order or knew of any plans of that nature.”

“Obviously, we had plans for activating more folks, but that was not anything more than contingency planning,” he added. “There was no official message traffic or anything of that nature.”

Trump and his allies have insisted that he made orders to have National Guard troops ready before Jan. 6.

Miller was responding to a claim Meadows made in a Fox News interview a month after the riot, in which he implied that Trump was “very vocal” in making sure there were “plenty of National Guard.”

“As many as 10,000 National Guard troops were told to be on the ready by the secretary of Defense. That was a direct order from President Trump. And yet here’s what we see is, there’s all kinds of blame going around, but yet not a whole lot of accountability,” Meadows said at the time.

When specifically asked about whether there was a direct order from Trump to have Guard troops ready, Miller said there was not.

“There was no order from the president,” he told the House select committee.

The testimony comes a week after the panel held its final public hearing of the summer, making the case that the former president chose not to act during more than three hours of the Capitol siege.

At the hearing last week the committee shared testimony from Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who recalled how he felt about Trump not issuing orders to deploy the National Guard.

“You’re the commander in chief. You’ve got an assault going on on the Capitol of the United States of America,” Milley said. “And there’s nothing? No call? Nothing? Zero?”
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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What did we talk about before Social Media?
life, dreams, plans, problems, goals...the same things we talk about now...it's not what you talk about, it's how you talk about it...
when you're having a face to face conversation with someone, you have to practice a little control, you can't call them a horse's ass and tell them that their parentage is suspect, because you probably live in close proximity to them, have to deal with them on a regular basis, probably even get along with them in general.
same for local businesses, if you can rate them anonymously, you can let loose about every little thing that bothers you, real and imagined...when someone you know asks your opinion about a local business you both know the owner of, you may not be quite so brutally honest.
the internet has killed social civility.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I think it is worth also noting that it is very likely that the dickheads in the Secret Service are known, and generalizing it to the entire department is one of those future trolls to be used to distrust institutions.
It appears to be centered around Ornado and his buddy who is head of the SS, along with a few other bad apples who Trump helped to expose. I'm sure they have many enemies among the professionals and I can't see Pence's security detail being happy about nearly being murdered by a mob! It would be accurate to say Trump corrupted certain elements in the service, spotting weaknesses and exploiting them is what Donald does, just look at all the lawyers he's screwed and will send to jail!
 
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