About a week before I expected to cut down my plants they started to foxtail. No worries, extra bud, so I waited an extra week or 2 I can't remember. One of the buds started to kick out what looked like actual tiny white flowers then all the buds started to add extra bumps. Unfortunately I had to take her down. What's the story with these flower looking things? Was this a late flower herm? No seeds. I never heard of this 4 lobed white flower, I needed 30X magnification to see this otherwise it looked like I splashed something. 77 days @12/12 when it showed up
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Mechman60
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Ya, no brain no gain.
Pics? You got my curiosity going. I like to join in on the research.
Nitrates are toxic to consume, these are not nutrients for animals. We can't completely avoid nitrates, but "chock full" as you say will get animals sick. Animals need to get their nitrogen from amino acids not nitrates.
I'll look for a pic of those little flowers. It was a while back. Man I kept looking at that thing wondering what could have been. I have the same seeds again. Maybe I'll get more. I did so many silly things to that plant.
Mechman60
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Ya. I always experiment with one sprout. I live for this s***.
Nutty sKunK
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Would be interesting to see. I doubt the products do much to the plant tissue as you say. Just removes it from the media. Maybe helpful if overfed.
Although the smoothest tasting plants seem to when your let them fade at the end I’ve been finding. Not saying green plants taste harsh or anything, quite the opposite. I’ve just noticed a personal difference when u introduce a fade in the last week or 2.
One way I see it is that before harvest, if there are green leaves. The plant has everything it needs (except water) in the leaves. It can get a perfectly balanced nutrition profile just from consuming itself.
It just seems a waste to feed till chop and remove all those unnecessary green leaves. When I could save some money and effort and just give plain water for the last week or 2 and introduce a fade.
Not flushing in the typical sense of gallons of water through the media. Just plain old rain water to finish em up.
But cannabis is like coffee. Each to their own I guess
BenGman
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Unflushed plants do yield more but only just slightly...flushed produce less yield but more thc%/Terpenes only by up to 1%.. if flushed for a week any longer and % dropped ..........not flushed or 14 days of flush had pretty much exactly the same levels of mineral content in the buds, in conclusion there is very little difference between the two , this was done in a lab with the same numerous clones with different days of flushing , so i guess that's the end of this never ending debate for me
And BK is a mr knowitall RIU clown.
And BK is a mr knowitall RIU clown.
Herb & Suds
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Link?
bk78
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Herb & Suds
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I’m looking forward to the data that supports two week flush in hydro
I suspect it’s called little yellow leaves are delicious
"Should growers be concerned about nitrate intake from plants? The simple answer is “no.” It is very unlikely that nitrate intake from plants would ever reach concentrations considered dangerous to humans"
Should growers be concerned about nitrate content in plants?
Are nitrates a concern for human health? To understand this ion and its effects on people, let’s first define what nitrate is. Nitrate is a common inorganic ion found in plants that is required for proper growth and development.
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bk78
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He’s visiting the shit show right nowI’m looking forward to the data that supports two week flush in hydro
I suspect it’s called little yellow leaves are delicious
If only it was so easy. Smoke and mirrors, look over here. They tested for and got "exactly the same levels of mineral content in the buds. Where are the tests and results for the only thing at issue - the NITRATES. Did you see a separate test result for nitrates?"
Even presuming to do a test (they did a test) before and after on immobile minerals is stupid. On mobile minerals - pointless. I have not seen a published tests for nitrates or phosphates. I try every thing to get more minerals into my plants and into me. Not so much on ingesting excess nitrates.
p.s. I like bacon, nitrates and Cherrios for phosphates. We normally reserve these just for plants, right.
"Chock full" sounds like a bunch. Is it your position that nitrates are not toxic to consume chock full?"Should growers be concerned about nitrate intake from plants? The simple answer is “no.” It is very unlikely that nitrate intake from plants would ever reach concentrations considered dangerous to humans"
Should growers be concerned about nitrate content in plants?
Are nitrates a concern for human health? To understand this ion and its effects on people, let’s first define what nitrate is. Nitrate is a common inorganic ion found in plants that is required for proper growth and development.
I know bacon is not a plant but they make a big deal to carefully measure the curing salt because of chock full of nitrates is considered toxic to animals. Modern agricultural practices do not offer produce chock full of nitrates so it is very unlikely to reach toxic levels. Drinking less alcohol doesn't make alcohol less toxic.
You think drinking 1oz of vodka per day isn't any less toxic than drinking a 25oz bottle of vodka per day?
bk78
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Any data posted yet?I’m looking forward to the data that supports two week flush in hydro
I suspect it’s called little yellow leaves are delicious
Don't you think "chock full" for a plant could be different than "chock full" for a mammal?
So my question still stands: What is wrong with harvesting a plant chock full of nitrogen or any other nutrient for that matter?
Nothing wrong with that. It is nitrates at issue. Nitrates can convert to nitrosamines in the digestive tract, so limit intake.
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That is correct. Alcohol has a recognized toxic concentration level of what? 0.08% No matter how much you drink 0.08 is considered intoxicated. It is toxic. Simple things will kill a plant and make animals sick or less healthy. Try feeding these to someone's prized horse and they will explain things in a different way.
Herb & Suds
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Just vitriol