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Trump endorses Gaetz ahead of Florida primary

Former President Trump said on Saturday he would be endorsing Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) ahead of Florida’s primary next Tuesday.
“@RepMattGaetz is a relentless Fighter for the incredible people of Florida’s 1st Congressional District!” Trump said on his Truth Social.

“Matt is a Champion of our MAGA Agenda, who tirelessly works to Drain the Swamp, Secure the Border, Support our Brave Veterans and Law Enforcement, Defend the Second Amendment, Stand Up to the Woke Mob, and Fight the Never-Ending Witch Hunts from the Radical Left that are destroying our Country!”
Trump’s endorsement of Gaetz was among a few he announced on Saturday, which also included Reps. Neal Dunn (R-Fla.), John Rutherford (R-Fla.) and Scott Franklin (R-Fla.).

Gaetz, who is running for reelection in the state’s 1st Congressional District, has two GOP primary challengers: retired military officer Greg Merk and former FedEx executive Mark Lombardo.

Merk previously ran against Gaetz in the GOP primary in 2020, but overwhelmingly lost to Gaetz, who is a member of the House Freedom Caucus. Gaetz received more than 80 percent of the vote.

Considered a key ally to Trump, Gaetz has been embroiled in an investigation regarding possible sexual relations with a minor and paying for her travel, though Gaetz has denied having done such a thing. The Justice Department is conducting the inquiry.

Does that mean he got his pardon from Trump?
 

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Trump endorses Gaetz ahead of Florida primary

Former President Trump said on Saturday he would be endorsing Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) ahead of Florida’s primary next Tuesday.
“@RepMattGaetz is a relentless Fighter for the incredible people of Florida’s 1st Congressional District!” Trump said on his Truth Social.

“Matt is a Champion of our MAGA Agenda, who tirelessly works to Drain the Swamp, Secure the Border, Support our Brave Veterans and Law Enforcement, Defend the Second Amendment, Stand Up to the Woke Mob, and Fight the Never-Ending Witch Hunts from the Radical Left that are destroying our Country!”
Trump’s endorsement of Gaetz was among a few he announced on Saturday, which also included Reps. Neal Dunn (R-Fla.), John Rutherford (R-Fla.) and Scott Franklin (R-Fla.).

Gaetz, who is running for reelection in the state’s 1st Congressional District, has two GOP primary challengers: retired military officer Greg Merk and former FedEx executive Mark Lombardo.

Merk previously ran against Gaetz in the GOP primary in 2020, but overwhelmingly lost to Gaetz, who is a member of the House Freedom Caucus. Gaetz received more than 80 percent of the vote.

Considered a key ally to Trump, Gaetz has been embroiled in an investigation regarding possible sexual relations with a minor and paying for her travel, though Gaetz has denied having done such a thing. The Justice Department is conducting the inquiry.

Does that mean he got his pardon from Trump?
This could be a gift.
 

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Do you consider CIA administration? I do not have high hopes for the affidavit(s) for the warrant. Do you? It seems giving doj carte blanche on redaction is a way to stall unsealing for quite some time by way of process.

I find it quite curious Trumps team were not in motion to unseal also.
No, CIA is a department that is administered by a top dog that the president suggested and the senators agree on. But on a whole they are their own entity. I agree with information withheld in an ongoing investigation if the information can damage the investigation. But back to my question. If Trump did a lot of unclassifying documents do you not think there were people around him that were suppose to see that the documents got unclassified? Should there not be a call for their heads if they did not do Trump's bidding. Obviously a paper trail should lead to the point where the declassifying of documents hit a brick wall. It should be easy to follow once the Trump team gives a list of the declassified documents that Trump released.
 

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Giuliani associate wrote letter asking Trump to give him ‘general pardon’: book
Maria Ryan, an associate to Rudy Giuliani, requested that he receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom and a “general pardon” in the wake of the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot in a letter addressed to the former president, according to a forthcoming book, The New York Times reported.

In “Giuliani: The Rise and Tragic Fall of America’s Mayor,” the author Andrew Kirtzman, who reported on the former Trump attorney for three decades as a journalist, says that Ryan wrote a letter to Trump on Jan. 10, 2021, asking for Giuliani to be paid for his services, to be given a pardon and to be awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom before Trump left office, according to the Times, which obtained a copy of the book.

“Mr. Giuliani rarely asks for anything for himself. He is praying you present him with this on Friday, January 15 or Monday the 19,” Ryan reportedly said in her letter to Trump in reference to the presidential honor.

Ryan separately sent a bill to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows requesting that Giuliani be paid $2.5 million for his services in addition to $45,000 for herself for “working in the campaign pursuing truth and justice for the president,” the book reported, quoting her description of her job, according to the Times.

Trump never received the letter, however, because a close adviser to Giuliani, Bernard Kerik, was shocked by Ryan’s asks and stopped the letter from getting to the president, the book reported.

A request for comment from the Times was not returned by Ryan.

The laughs keep on coming.
 

ActionianJacksonian

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No, CIA is a department that is administered by a top dog that the president suggested and the senators agree on. But on a whole they are their own entity. I agree with information withheld in an ongoing investigation if the information can damage the investigation. But back to my question. If Trump did a lot of unclassifying documents do you not think there were people around him that were suppose to see that the documents got unclassified? Should there not be a call for their heads if they did not do Trump's bidding. Obviously a paper trail should lead to the point where the declassifying of documents hit a brick wall. It should be easy to follow once the Trump team gives a list of the declassified documents that Trump released.
Sorry, I thought I'd answered that pretty thoroughly. The Constitution and Navy v Egan state that the President is the sole authority on what is classified. That someone did or did not carry out publishing is procedural and related but has no impact on status. I'm actually fairly sure that anything in the White House must be declassified to reside there.

All I can really hope for is that the coming indictment of Trump would generate case Law that affirms transparency at the Presidents discretion.
 

hanimmal

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No, CIA is a department that is administered by a top dog that the president suggested and the senators agree on. But on a whole they are their own entity. I agree with information withheld in an ongoing investigation if the information can damage the investigation. But back to my question. If Trump did a lot of unclassifying documents do you not think there were people around him that were suppose to see that the documents got unclassified? Should there not be a call for their heads if they did not do Trump's bidding. Obviously a paper trail should lead to the point where the declassifying of documents hit a brick wall. It should be easy to follow once the Trump team gives a list of the declassified documents that Trump released.
But how would Trump then use all those state secrets for payoffs and political gains if anyone but him had access to them?

Sorry, I thought I'd answered that pretty thoroughly. The Constitution and Navy v Egan state that the President is the sole authority on what is classified. That someone did or did not carry out publishing is procedural and related but has no impact on status. I'm actually fairly sure that anything in the White House must be declassified to reside there.

All I can really hope for is that the coming indictment of Trump would generate case Law that affirms transparency at the Presidents discretion.
Why do you keep lying about this? It is really wierd how hard you are trying to sell Trump's false narrative.
 

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But how would Trump then use all those state secrets for payoffs and political gains if anyone but him had access to them?


Why do you keep lying about this? It is really wierd how hard you are trying to sell Trump's false narrative.
He tried to sell himself as an independent totalibertarian.
But his loyalties showed earlier.
You are trying to argue with someone whose honesty ethic closely matches that of the ochre ogre.
 

hanimmal

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He tried to sell himself as an independent totalibertarian.
But his loyalties showed earlier.
You are trying to argue with someone whose honesty ethic closely matches that of the ochre ogre.
Im not trying to argue or rationalize with the troll. Just more point out the lies that they keep spewing. They cant break charatcer and be a real person, which is a bummer. It really must suck to have to work aso hard to push the lies of these anti-American douchebags in the Republican party.
 

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Ex-FBI official criticizes GOP ‘fealty’ to Trump
44,244 views Aug 20, 2022 Former top FBI counterintelligence official Peter Strzok discusses the GOP response to the FBI search of former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence.
 

cannabineer

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Im not trying to argue or rationalize with the troll. Just more point out the lies that they keep spewing. They cant break charatcer and be a real person, which is a bummer. It really must suck to have to work aso hard to push the lies of these anti-American douchebags in the Republican party.
If nothing else, he confirms with every contortion he posts
that his so-called libertarian credo reduces to being a champion not only of fascists, but of fascist doctrine.
 
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Trump endorses Gaetz ahead of Florida primary

Former President Trump said on Saturday he would be endorsing Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) ahead of Florida’s primary next Tuesday.
“@RepMattGaetz is a relentless Fighter for the incredible people of Florida’s 1st Congressional District!” Trump said on his Truth Social.

“Matt is a Champion of our MAGA Agenda, who tirelessly works to Drain the Swamp, Secure the Border, Support our Brave Veterans and Law Enforcement, Defend the Second Amendment, Stand Up to the Woke Mob, and Fight the Never-Ending Witch Hunts from the Radical Left that are destroying our Country!”
Trump’s endorsement of Gaetz was among a few he announced on Saturday, which also included Reps. Neal Dunn (R-Fla.), John Rutherford (R-Fla.) and Scott Franklin (R-Fla.).

Gaetz, who is running for reelection in the state’s 1st Congressional District, has two GOP primary challengers: retired military officer Greg Merk and former FedEx executive Mark Lombardo.

Merk previously ran against Gaetz in the GOP primary in 2020, but overwhelmingly lost to Gaetz, who is a member of the House Freedom Caucus. Gaetz received more than 80 percent of the vote.

Considered a key ally to Trump, Gaetz has been embroiled in an investigation regarding possible sexual relations with a minor and paying for her travel, though Gaetz has denied having done such a thing. The Justice Department is conducting the inquiry.

Does that mean he got his pardon from Trump?
you know, turkeywattle mcconnel was just talking about the quality of republican candidates not being up to par, and they turn around and run this sleazebag piece of shit...it makes me think that the older generation of republicans may just be giving up...they have more than enough to live in comfort for the rest of their lives, what the fuck do they care what the freedump train morons do anymore?
 

ActionianJacksonian

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But how would Trump then use all those state secrets for payoffs and political gains if anyone but him had access to them?


Why do you keep lying about this? It is really wierd how hard you are trying to sell Trump's false narrative.
It's just a penis turned inside out. There are still hair follicles inside. For this and many other reasons, you will never be a real woman.
 

ActionianJacksonian

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If nothing else, he confirms with every contortion he posts
that his so-called libertarian credo reduces to being a champion not only of fascists, but of fascist doctrine.
Fascism is unequal application of the law. For example when Bill Clinton kept audio tapes in his sock drawer.

Judicial Watch v. National Archives and Records Administration

Conclusion?:
There was no provision in the Presidential Records Act to force the National Archives to seize records from a former president.
The DOJ successfully argued this and its never been appealed.

Some neat highlights from U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson in Washington D.C.,

"Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President's term and in his sole discretion,"

"Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records,"

"Because the audiotapes are not physically in the government's possession, defendant submits that it would be required to seize them directly from President Clinton in order to assume custody and control over them," Jackson noted. "Defendant considers this to be an 'extraordinary request' that is unfounded, contrary to the PRA's express terms, and contrary to traditional principles of administrative law. The Court agrees."

And who was this Defendant? The Department of Justice.

Jackson also concluded that a decision to challenge a president's decision lies solely with the National Archives and can't be reviewed by a court. If the Archives wants to challenge a decision, that agency and the attorney general can initiate an enforcement mechanism under the law, but it is a civil procedure and has no criminal penalty, she noted.

Inb4 strawman, your intentions, Big Lie, links and sources.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Velshi: Your Power, As A Citizen, Scares The Far-Right. Your Vote Threatens Them.
64,991 views Aug 20, 2022 American Democracy has been on a steady decline. For years, we’ve been trying to make sense of it. How can one party seem to be so opposed to the single principle on which this nation was built. Here’s one school of thought: maybe it’s not that the far-right wants to tear democracy down. Maybe, they never believed in its existence in the first place. For decades, there’s been a misguided philosophy that America is not a democracy, but rather, a Republic. Here’s why that argument is disingenuous.
 

injinji

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i guess...i just see her as a complication at this point, some one to spoil for the democrats, taking independent votes that would have otherwise gone to the democratic candidate. i welcome any damage she can do to the republicans, but fear her potential to harm the democrats, even unintentionally
She won't make it to the general. All her money will be spent on trumpf and his ilk. She started a PAC and is going after MAGA folks.
 

injinji

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How would you infer that? No statute or regulation can usurp the Presidents right to declassify anything they wish, at any time, for any reason no matter what clearance is needed to view it. President does not need to check with any executive agency to exercise this.

How can anything that is declassified and entered into public record be "stolen"? The fact they were not entered into public record for you and I to read is, in fact a crime.
The laws do not require that it be secret to be mishandled. It is for any defense related files. Funny thing is trumpf himself increased the crime to a felony.
 
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