Dos and donts for beginning crossing strains

[Stillusingducttape]

Hey I need advice or pointers . I ran a few GTH and purple gelato and made clones then kept 3 mothers 2 gth cuz it handles abuse better and 1 purple gelato. I was making clones for new batch. Ps don't have alot of folks rou d here to ask for help or this kind of advice. Buddy started some bag seeds and 2 ended up being male. The gth and pg I got are feminized I took the 2 males off his hands . I've never crossed 2 strains before but wanna give it a go . The bud the male seeds came from I'm assuming was Indica or indica dominant from the structure tight dense buds but ugly as all get out it was brown but smoked ok. What should be my plan of attack and can I gather pollen in a jar and save it until clones are ready to be pollinated or does the male pollen have no shelf life? I know this shit might seem dumb to yall but I wanna further my education in cultivating but no locals I can turn to with these types of questions

 

[OldMedUser]

You can collect the pollen then dry it well and save it for later. Good for 3 months or longer. Dried with a desiccant and kept in a sealed container in the fridge or frozen it could last a lot longer. I have a bunch of really old pollen I've saved for well over 10 years that I'm going to try here and there to see if any of it still works.

I prefer to cross plants with known parents myself but 20 years ago I wasn't so fussy. I'm collecting feminized pollen from an auto right now myself and already have two of it's sisters all dusted up. The seeds I get from them will be F2 fems so I'll use those to try to select the best to breed the best I can get out of them. They are are a cross bred by a commercial breeder that I'm working with to further the strain. Mazarilla by Urban_Legends. GG#4 auto X Mazar auto. I have 5 out in the garden that should be ready in a week or so. Up north here autos are the only thing that will finish before snow and frost show up.

 

[hotrodharley]

Hey I need advice or pointers . I ran a few GTH and purple gelato and made clones then kept 3 mothers 2 gth cuz it handles abuse better and 1 purple gelato. I was making clones for new batch. Ps don't have alot of folks rou d here to ask for help or this kind of advice. Buddy started some bag seeds and 2 ended up being male. The gth and pg I got are feminized I took the 2 males off his hands . I've never crossed 2 strains before but wanna give it a go . The bud the male seeds came from I'm assuming was Indica or indica dominant from the structure tight dense buds but ugly as all get out it was brown but smoked ok. What should be my plan of attack and can I gather pollen in a jar and save it until clones are ready to be pollinated or does the male pollen have no shelf life? I know this shit might seem dumb to yall but I wanna further my education in cultivating but no locals I can turn to with these types of questions

Why cross with crappy looking weed that was just “okay”? Regular seeds of good genetics are cheap.

 

[Rurumo]

I love this post as an introduction to Mendellian inheritance and Punnett squares, because he copied some great illustrations that help explain things. https://www.icmag.com/threads/breeding-for-beginners.20976/

Now, after the first post, the OP does go off the rails a bit and talks up some bro-science, BUT, a couple of excellent breeders join the discussion and their comments are worth the price of admission.

Basically, in the example, they took a male and female from inbred lines and crossed them, to make f1s (this is what you are doing, but not with inbred lines). Next they bred a male and female from the f1 generation, making the f2 generation which they mapped on the Punnett square. Take a look at that illustration, there are 16 phenotypes in the f2 generation. You ONLY get that few phenotypes in the f2 generation if you are breeding from IBLs or landraces. If you are breeding with 2 polyhybrid crosses, you will get vastly more phenotypes at f2, making it that much harder to stabilize the strain.

That's just to give you something to think about on the topic of good, vs bad breeding. If you just want to cross a male and female to try making seeds, absolutely go for it! The more practice you have, the better off you will be if you decide you like breeding and want to get more serious about making your own stabilized line. Good luck to you!

 

[Stillusingducttape]

I love this post as an introduction to Mendellian inheritance and Punnett squares, because he copied some great illustrations that help explain things. https://www.icmag.com/threads/breeding-for-beginners.20976/

Now, after the first post, the OP does go off the rails a bit and talks up some bro-science, BUT, a couple of excellent breeders join the discussion and their comments are worth the price of admission.

Basically, in the example, they took a male and female from inbred lines and crossed them, to make f1s (this is what you are doing, but not with inbred lines). Next they bred a male and female from the f1 generation, making the f2 generation which they mapped on the Punnett square. Take a look at that illustration, there are 16 phenotypes in the f2 generation. You ONLY get that few phenotypes in the f2 generation if you are breeding from IBLs or landraces. If you are breeding with 2 polyhybrid crosses, you will get vastly more phenotypes at f2, making it that much harder to stabilize the strain.

That's just to give you something to think about on the topic of good, vs bad breeding. If you just want to cross a male and female to try making seeds, absolutely go for it! The more practice you have, the better off you will be if you decide you like breeding and want to get more serious about making your own stabilized line. Good luck to you!

Hell yeah man thank you I figure I'd try it with what I've already got so I don't have to put any money into it and everything turns out good then invest money into it