Vaccinated stay contagious longer than Unvaccinated

OldMedUser

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After I first got it, and got over it, we took vitamin D, C, B12 every day for a long time. IVM once a week, and Hydroxyqloriquin (sp?) . Could have been why my second round was very mild like allergies. Didn't lay me out for 3 weeks like the first time.
I submit for your consideration that rather than your 'medical treatments' it was immunity from your first bout that made your second round so much easier.

I do the vitamin thing and have for decades. That helps keep my immune system strong as pointed out by the surgeon that removed my burst appendix a few years back. It had been leaking for probably 10 years since troubles with my belly started and he claimed that because I had such a strong immune system was the only reason I hadn't developed full blown peritonitis in all that time. Was still a rough ride with intravenous antibiotics for a week causing chronic diarrhea so no sleep leading to a bit of a freakout on the staff one night. The worst part, albeit very short-lived, was when the nurse pulled out the drainage filter from my lower belly.

When I went to the local hospital over the pain in my guts the local quack claimed I was constipated, gave me some crap to drink then told me once I had a crap I could go home even tho I knew it wasn't that because I'd had the shits all day before going there. 2 days later I got a CAT scan at a different hospital and was shortly on my way via emergency vehicle to the city 125 miles away for emergency surgery. 2 days after getting home I got incredible pain in my left side and being snowed in had to call an ambulance and passed a kidney stone on the way to the hospital where they did an x-ray to find the stone had passed. I'd heard that kidney stones hurt to pass but this was way beyond painful. Never again I hope. Was noted on my scan for the appendix but nobody told me until it was all over. 4mm non-obstructive stone that became obstructive. Like trying to force a baseball wrapped with barbed wire thru a garden hose was how one doctor described it.

Reminded me of what it was like getting my ribs spread to force in a chest tube without anaesthesia but that's another horror story for another time. :)

Getting older can really suck but the alternative is less appealing atm. At least up here we have M.A.I.D. for when things get too bad to bear anymore. Medical Assistance In Dying for those that don't know.

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DoubleAtotheRON

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I submit for your consideration that rather than your 'medical treatments' it was immunity from your first bout that made your second round so much easier.

I do the vitamin thing and have for decades. That helps keep my immune system strong as pointed out by the surgeon that removed my burst appendix a few years back. It had been leaking for probably 10 years since troubles with my belly started and he claimed that because I had such a strong immune system was the only reason I hadn't developed full blown peritonitis in all that time. Was still a rough ride with intravenous antibiotics for a week causing chronic diarrhea so no sleep leading to a bit of a freakout on the staff one night. The worst part, albeit very short-lived, was when the nurse pulled out the drainage filter from my lower belly.

When I went to the local hospital over the pain in my guts the local quack claimed I was constipated, gave me some crap to drink then told me once I had a crap I could go home even tho I knew it wasn't that because I'd had the shits all day before going there. 2 days later I got a CAT scan at a different hospital and was shortly on my way via emergency vehicle to the city 125 miles away for emergency surgery. 2 days after getting home I got incredible pain in my left side and being snowed in had to call an ambulance and passed a kidney stone on the way to the hospital where they did an x-ray to find the stone had passed. I'd heard that kidney stones hurt to pass but this was way beyond painful. Never again I hope. Was noted on my scan for the appendix but nobody told me until it was all over. 4mm non-obstructive stone that became obstructive. Like trying to force a baseball wrapped with barbed wire thru a garden hose was how one doctor described it.

Reminded me of what it was like getting my ribs spread to force in a chest tube without anaesthesia but that's another horror story for another time. :)

Getting older can really suck but the alternative is less appealing atm. At least up here we have M.A.I.D. for when things get too bad to bear anymore. Medical Assistance In Dying for those that don't know.

:peace:
Man!… that’s a lot to go through, but you’re on the right side of the daisies today. I’ve always heard getting old sucks.. and now I’m starting to understand. Some people get a decent hand of cards dealt, others not. I just got a call that a high school friend passed away this afternoon, same age as me (mid 50’s)… but his dad died about the same age with heart problems.
Then again, some live super long lives without any problems other than the parts just wore out.
I had 2 grandparents live just shy of 102.. this is one of them who just wanted a Coke before she slipped away peacefully. Don’t you know she saw some shit change in almost 102 years?
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PadawanWarrior

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Man!… that’s a lot to go through, but you’re on the right side of the daisies today. I’ve always heard getting old sucks.. and now I’m starting to understand. Some people get a decent hand of cards dealt, others not. I just got a call that a high school friend passed away this afternoon, same age as me (mid 50’s)… but his dad died about the same age with heart problems.
Then again, some live super long lives without any problems other than the parts just wore out.
I had 2 grandparents live just shy of 102.. this is one of them who just wanted a Coke before she slipped away peacefully. Don’t you know she saw some shit change in almost 102 years?
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And some just go bald, :lol:. Granny's still sporting a nice hair dew though. I'm guessing you didn't get your hair gene from her,:-D
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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And some just go bald, :lol:. Granny's still sporting a nice hair dew though. I'm guessing you didn't get your hair gene from her,:-D
Nope!... man, she was old enough to tell us stories about traveling by covered wagon, wringing chickens necks, cooking breakfast, lunch and dinner for 15 ranch hands, the dust bowl, the Great Depression, etc. She cooked everything in hog lard, breathed 2nd hand smoke for 50 years.... tough ol' bird.
 

OldMedUser

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And some just go bald, :lol:. Granny's still sporting a nice hair dew though. I'm guessing you didn't get your hair gene from her,:-D
My mom still has all her marbles and most of her hair but is almost totally blind now from macular degeneration. Turned 95 in August and lives with my sister in BC. Her folks immigrated from Switzerland a couple years before she was born and homesteaded land in southern Alberta. Given 2 square miles of decent prairie with a 5 acre pond and little creek. Loved going out there as a kid. Shooting gophers was a blast. She's told us all sorts of stories about living thru the depression. 5 miles on horseback to go to school sometimes with snow drifts hiding the power poles. She met my dad in Vancouver after WWII and his parents were Scottish immigrants. He passed in '86 from cancer. Was a naval vet and ended the war as chief gunnery officer on a Canadian destroyer.

This is last Oct when we went up to the family cabin we built about 60 years ago and recently got an rebuild. Has a foundation now and even an indoor outhouse! That's her headed up to the back door.

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View from the deck.

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I was adopted so all I know about my birth family's medical history is that my b-mom was diagnosed with dementia at age 65 and died from it at 75 about 6 months before I made contact with a half-sister about 7 years ago. She had serious joint problems as I do so got that in spades. Still got all my hair tho and wear it long. I know nothing about my b-dad but he was twice her age when he knocked her up. No sign of dementia yet but would I notice? Having a brain MRI in about 3 weeks to check for MS so that might show something. Just a minor stroke about 7 years ago and that's cleared up pretty good.

For myself I think the vaccine was a good choice. (just to stay on topic) :)

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DoubleAtotheRON

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I can just hear todays generation 50 years from now. "Son, back in my day, we had to wait 45 min to get this thing called a Smartphone set up, our Internet would do this thing called "buffering" when we tried to watch a movie on Netflix... you prob never heard of it, we couldn't teleport back then, we had to drive, or fly to get where we were going.. you don't know how good you kids have it today"
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OldMedUser

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@OldMedUser That's really cool to hear old stories like that..How are kids today gonna make it??? LOL! The old generation got to see the Industrial Revolution, good times, bad times, hard times, harder times, and somehow, they made it. Very cool man.
I worry about the young ones too. They may not be able to survive in the wild if things go sideways but damn they can do things with a phone I didn't know were possible. :) I only use my 7yo schmart phone for making calls and an occasional text when I have to. Been building my own computers and fixing them for friends and family since '87 when I went back to school for chemistry and got my first PC compatible.

I've been wanting to move back to BC for years but with all the forest fires and floods out there I think I'll hang out here until things settle down if ever. When that big quake hits the west coast things will really go to shit.

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DoubleAtotheRON

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I worry about the young ones too. They may not be able to survive in the wild if things go sideways but damn they can do things with a phone I didn't know were possible. :) I only use my 7yo schmart phone for making calls and an occasional text when I have to. Been building my own computers and fixing them for friends and family since '87 when I went back to school for chemistry and got my first PC compatible.

I've been wanting to move back to BC for years but with all the forest fires and floods out there I think I'll hang out here until things settle down if ever. When that big quake hits the west coast things will really go to shit.

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Im still hanging in there with the tech...kinda. Im out of touch with who's in the top 20 countdown or whatever. Im prob gonna be like my dad. We were driving into town the other day and read a rear window sticker on a mini van that said "Got hella kids up in here, honk if one falls out"... I had to translate for him.
 

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PadawanWarrior

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My mom still has all her marbles and most of her hair but is almost totally blind now from macular degeneration. Turned 95 in August and lives with my sister in BC. Her folks immigrated from Switzerland a couple years before she was born and homesteaded land in southern Alberta. Given 2 square miles of decent prairie with a 5 acre pond and little creek. Loved going out there as a kid. Shooting gophers was a blast. She's told us all sorts of stories about living thru the depression. 5 miles on horseback to go to school sometimes with snow drifts hiding the power poles. She met my dad in Vancouver after WWII and his parents were Scottish immigrants. He passed in '86 from cancer. Was a naval vet and ended the war as chief gunnery officer on a Canadian destroyer.

This is last Oct when we went up to the family cabin we built about 60 years ago and recently got an rebuild. Has a foundation now and even an indoor outhouse! That's her headed up to the back door.

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View from the deck.

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I was adopted so all I know about my birth family's medical history is that my b-mom was diagnosed with dementia at age 65 and died from it at 75 about 6 months before I made contact with a half-sister about 7 years ago. She had serious joint problems as I do so got that in spades. Still got all my hair tho and wear it long. I know nothing about my b-dad but he was twice her age when he knocked her up. No sign of dementia yet but would I notice? Having a brain MRI in about 3 weeks to check for MS so that might show something. Just a minor stroke about 7 years ago and that's cleared up pretty good.

For myself I think the vaccine was a good choice. (just to stay on topic) :)

:peace:
That is sick. It looks like you can fish off that deck.
 

PadawanWarrior

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"Participants can be paid up to $965 for their time and effort."

Giving a kid between 6 months and 2-years old a covid shot is child abuse. The death rate from covid in that age group is virtually zero.
That's messed up. The younger people are, the more hesitant I'd be with this shit. My 19 year old son isn't vaxed and I'm happy some people don't want it. So if shit hits the fan and all us vaxed people turn into zombies at least some will still have a chance to save humanity, :lol:
 

PJ Diaz

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Coming to any conclusions when only 21 people were used for a study is scientifically insignificant and it's irresponsible to publish any results until larger studies have been done and there's been some peer review.

There's lies, damn lies and then there's statistics. ;)

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LOL they didn't even test the new bivalent covid booster on people. It was only tested on mice, eight of them to be exact. Isn't that just as scientifically insignificant and irresponsible, if not more?
 

OldMedUser

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That is sick. It looks like you can fish off that deck.
I could hit the water with a spinner but it would be a bitch to land the family record breaking rainbow trout I finally caught on that trip. 50 years ago my sister caught an 18" spawned out flabby looking thing and lorded that over me every time someone brought up the lake. My damn luck she passed away in march '20 from ovarian cancer so all I could do was hold it up to the sky and and show it to her.

21.5" caught on that little Vibrax spinner off a dock at the next cabin a little walk thru the woods from ours. Nobody there so nobody to chase me off. Used to be friends of ours but they sold it 10 years ago and last year was my first time up in 15 years. Long drive from up here. Was hoping for one like that on my grandpas fly rod but only got a 12" that weekend on it.

9' noodle rod with 6lb line that I also use to catch coho salmon with when I'm back in the Fraser Valley that time of year. Did catch 3 but none were keepers. Biggest was about 8lbs but wild so had to go back.

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Barbless hook as is the law. Took a bit to land it with no net. Tasty as hell cooked over a fire.

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