Would this nitrogen burn?
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xtsho
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It's normal to want to do too much on your first grow, worry about every little blemish, or expect plants to look perfect all the time. That often leads to people doing unnecessary stuff which does more harm than good.
Seriously, just let them grow. In a couple weeks they'll be bigger and doing fine.
Good luck.
speedwell68
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Wait until they need it. I potted mine up 3 days ago and gave them a good "watering in", they are still as heavy as can be, they don't need watering. Keep checking the weight of the pot, you'll learn when you need to water.
tstick
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I know it's labor intensive and wouldn't be practical for anything other than a very small grow (a few plants)...but, whenever I start out a grow, I try to pre-moisten my soil mix to the "ideal" dampness level. Then I weigh the container (bathroom scale works fine) and pre-moistened soil. Then I plant the plant into that container and water thoroughly. After watering (and allowing the container to drip-dry), I weigh the container, again, to determine the maximum weight. After that, I monitor the weight throughout the week to see how much the plants are actually drinking. When they start returning to that ideal weight, it's time. If the top of the soil dries out, I just use a pump sprayer to wet it down a bit.
I find this method to be almost fail-safe and I've never run into any watering problems using it. I run a similar soil mix (basically FF with some added coco and perlite).
I use fabric pots and when I water them, I put them into a 5 gallon bucket and water them inside it until the water comes up to the soil line and then I let them sit there for several minutes until the bubbling stops. Then I hoist them up and hold them to drip into the bucket for a couple seconds and then into a drip pan for several more minutes until they can be returned to the tent.
After a few weeks, you will get a "feel" for the timing of the watering and you will become more in-tune with your plants. They will "tell" you what they want if you "listen".
It's a laborious process....but, honestly I love working closely with my plants and I don't mind it at all. Growing plants is therapeutic for me.
I find this method to be almost fail-safe and I've never run into any watering problems using it. I run a similar soil mix (basically FF with some added coco and perlite).
I use fabric pots and when I water them, I put them into a 5 gallon bucket and water them inside it until the water comes up to the soil line and then I let them sit there for several minutes until the bubbling stops. Then I hoist them up and hold them to drip into the bucket for a couple seconds and then into a drip pan for several more minutes until they can be returned to the tent.
After a few weeks, you will get a "feel" for the timing of the watering and you will become more in-tune with your plants. They will "tell" you what they want if you "listen".
It's a laborious process....but, honestly I love working closely with my plants and I don't mind it at all. Growing plants is therapeutic for me.
Yes I'm gonna start weighing them and seeing the weight of one with no water and one with a full water just to see but thx guys. I'm definitely worrying to much. I just want my first grow to be perfect and get the most out of my plants. I love working with them and tweaking little things just because I'm so anal about it. Enough to where my wife hates it lol
ALPHA.GanjaGuy
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Over caring kills more plants than any other issue from my experience.
farmingfisherman
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That's sounds like a lot of work to water plants.I know it's labor intensive and wouldn't be practical for anything other than a very small grow (a few plants)...but, whenever I start out a grow, I try to pre-moisten my soil mix to the "ideal" dampness level. Then I weigh the container (bathroom scale works fine) and pre-moistened soil. Then I plant the plant into that container and water thoroughly. After watering (and allowing the container to drip-dry), I weigh the container, again, to determine the maximum weight. After that, I monitor the weight throughout the week to see how much the plants are actually drinking. When they start returning to that ideal weight, it's time. If the top of the soil dries out, I just use a pump sprayer to wet it down a bit.
I find this method to be almost fail-safe and I've never run into any watering problems using it. I run a similar soil mix (basically FF with some added coco and perlite).
I use fabric pots and when I water them, I put them into a 5 gallon bucket and water them inside it until the water comes up to the soil line and then I let them sit there for several minutes until the bubbling stops. Then I hoist them up and hold them to drip into the bucket for a couple seconds and then into a drip pan for several more minutes until they can be returned to the tent.
After a few weeks, you will get a "feel" for the timing of the watering and you will become more in-tune with your plants. They will "tell" you what they want if you "listen".
It's a laborious process....but, honestly I love working closely with my plants and I don't mind it at all. Growing plants is therapeutic for me.
ALPHA.GanjaGuy
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Ocean Forest is a great soil (imo - I know others may not agree) but it can burn/over feed plants, especially young plants.
I killed several plants in my first run by over watering, once I started letting them dry out problems stopped.
tstick
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Yes, but it makes me feel as if I am following a system of watering that I came up with that works for me and my style of growing. I only grow 4 plants (max) per run and this run one of my four turned out to be a male...so I'm only dealing with 3 plants and they are in 3 gallon fabric pots. It would be a hassle if I was growing a higher number of plants. I offer it as an option for new growers who are having trouble trying to avoid the pitfalls of overwatering -which seems to be a pretty common thing. Obviously, if someone is growing in large containers or growing a considerable number of plants, then the method wouldn't be practical. It's just something that works well for a small-timer, Like me.
farmingfisherman
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Really no wrong way to go about growing plants as long as it works for the garden and the grower.Yes, but it makes me feel as if I am following a system of watering that I came up with that works for me and my style of growing. I only grow 4 plants (max) per run and this run one of my four turned out to be a male...so I'm only dealing with 3 plants and they are in 3 gallon fabric pots. It would be a hassle if I was growing a higher number of plants. I offer it as an option for new growers who are having trouble trying to avoid the pitfalls of overwatering -which seems to be a pretty common thing. Obviously, if someone is growing in large containers or growing a considerable number of plants, then the method wouldn't be practical. It's just something that works well for a small-timer, Like me.
tstick
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Initially, I wanted to get 4 cheap, analog bathroom scales and place each plant on one and monitor the weight that way. But, the cheap scales were reported to be very inaccurate and I didn't want to spend the $$ on that experiment....but I still keep the idea in the back of my mind! 
hotrodharley
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Any newer growers using anything over 5 deserve some issues. Same with the clucks with no experience going with coco. My comment was aimed at sensible ones.He is. FFOF and FFHF plus he added compost.
That would suck ass with my 15's,.
hotrodharley
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Check out refrigerant scales on Amazon.Initially, I wanted to get 4 cheap, analog bathroom scales and place each plant on one and monitor the weight that way. But, the cheap scales were reported to be very inaccurate and I didn't want to spend the $$ on that experiment....but I still keep the idea in the back of my mind!
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PadawanWarrior
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Are you saying anyone who uses pots over 5 gal in soil isn't sensible?
hotrodharley
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Hello? I said newer growers. See the second word in my comment? “Newer”.
lightbox420
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Make sure the pot is at least 90% dry or you're gonna get water logged at the bottom
PadawanWarrior
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If you plan to do organics and soil a larger pot helps.
Boatguy
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What makes you think that is the case? It is very easy to grow organic in small containers